Bottom Line may be this: Democrats Must Win the '06 Elections

[WI_DEM]

Fitz is doing a great job, but it's only the start. Part of the great disclosures of Watergate came not in the courtroom but the committee room of Congress. That is where Dean disclosed that Nixon was involved in the cover-up and Alexander Butterfield disclosed that Nixon had a secret taping system.

But with the GOP in control of the House and Senate there will be no investigations and no sopenas. To truly investigate Plamegate and the lies which involved us in the Iraqi war--we must win the November, 2006 congressional elections--win back the House and Senate.

It can be done! Bush's approval ratings are tanking. Energy prices are high, The War continues to be bloody and frustrating, The WH has to contend with charges of corruption, The economy may experience a slow-down or recession next year. I think the mood in this country is finally turning against the administration. What can Bush do to turn it around. His policies are so rigid--he isn't going to pull out of Iraq.

But we all need to work hard to see that the Republican congress is defeated by working at the grass roots level. Control of Congress will be the only way to truly investigate the series of lies which led to war.

[Saturday]

1. Absolutely!!!!

We can't wait till 2008.

[Zodiak]

2. I agree wholeheartedly.

Watching Bush swim against a tide of indictments might be entertaining, but we have work to do.

[Jim Sagle]

3. Until we smash the Diebold machines, Republicans can't lose.

[WI_DEM]

5. Only if the election is close

Yes, and the only way we can investigate Diebold is to win the congressional elections. Diebold will not play as important role in congressional elections as it does in presidential elections. It is defeatist to constantly say the Democrats will not win another election because of Diebold--if that is the case why should any of us vote?

[Grillydad]

4. Amen

While I join with everyone else and would love to see the Bush Cabal drug out of the Whitehouse by angry villagers carrying pitchforks and torches (after an embarrassing impeachment), the important reality is that he and they are here until '08. That makes the immediate priority to be gains in Congress. It'll slow them down and force the MSM to listen to the Democratic side of the many important issues facing us. We'll no longer hear that crap about the Dems have no vision.

[daleanime]

6. Winning not enough.

We have to change directions in this country and start building again. Not just New Orleans and Florida, not just FEMA, the CIA, or the Army. The list of what we have lost the last 5 years is far to long. This political thuggery is just one piece.

[Selatius]

7. You'll never win if your vote isn't counted anymore

Get control over the voting machines and give it to the people, or the experiment in representative democracy will end in total failure.

[WI_DEM]

9. and the only way Democrats can do this is to win back congress

and investigate Diebold. So what do we do? Fight to win in so convincing of a way that they can't steal it, or just lie back and play dead and constantly yell, "We can't win because of Diebold."

[Selatius]

10. You can't win Congress without getting the voting machines

At present, you DON'T have the voting machines. They still belong to Diebold and Sequoia. The recent GAO report about Ohio voting irregularities should have illuminated perfectly well that even if Kerry had won Ohio by several hundred thousand votes more than Bush, he could have still lost because it would only take one or two programmers to flip the vote in Bush's favor. 800,000 votes were recorded on electronic voting machines in Ohio. Bush beat him by only 118,000.

Tell me, do you think the Dems will ever successfully resolve the issue in one year before the midterms in '06? That's not a big window of opportunity.

[BridgeTheGap]

8. What I would like to see is GrassRoots organizing

I absolutely agree that we won't be able to get at the truth of this whole sordid affair as long their party continues to rule. Clearly, there is an opportunity here to use these events to help get Democrats elected.
However, at the Federal level, what does the polling data look like on a state to state, district to district basis. Paul Hackett's run in Ohio appears to be a strong indicator that the tide is turning, even in those traditionally red districts.
The Democratic Party would be well served to focus on grassroots organizing - and to his credit, Howard Dean has focused energy on this as chair of the DNC. We have taken a beating by the "liberal media," who have gone way too far in their support of this regieme.
I do not trust corporate media. At this point, I am very suspicious of the election process itself.
We have to work to make sure that elections are fair. And we have to create alternate means of delivering information to rank&file Democrats. At it's most basic level, this is a primary function of grassroots organizing. The other is to encourage participation in campaigns for Democratic candidates. Grassroots organizing is also the only way I see of neutralizing the influence of corporate money on the political process.

[daleanime]

11. Yes.

I agree whole heartily.

[madrchsod]

12. yup and i think we may just do it

i`m encouraged by some of the things i have heard about that will --lets just say-they`ll never know where it came from. it`s going to be a long cold winter........

[eallen]

13. The message needs to be reality and pragmatism...

Government that works, not government that is expensive and dishonest. Policy based on reality, not on spin. Schools that teach science. It's time to get back to reality.

[madrchsod]

14. we need to get the moderate republican voters

to see party has abandoned them in favor of the religious cults and the super wealthy. just as the republicans created the "reagan democrats" we need to create the equivalent and from what i have seen and heard it wouldn`t take much. their issues are our issues and we just need to come up with a -workable message and plan- to change this nation

[pdxmom]

15. It's the only way to get out from under this

If the American people, at a grassroots level, can come back and take control of our government, injecting some honesty and common sense back into our policies, it will go a long way to mending the rifts our government has created.

New blood is an absolute. While this administration makes us all crazy and seems to be our focus, we've got to get back Congress in '06. Each of us needs to work hard on Congressional elections during the next year.

[BridgeTheGap]

16. It's not enough just to get rid of these bastards!

The Democratic Party must have a vision and a plan to bring that vision into reality. Besides the traditional Dem issues of choice, economic prosperity, civil rights, the environment - how about these:
getting the dirty $$$$ out of politics, checking corporate power and influence over government and making sure elections are fair?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

17. You just realized now we need to win in 2006?

:shrug:

[triguy46]

18. exactly the point.

Winning the press wars, and watching *s poplularity tank is meaningless unless the dems step up and get back at least one side of congress and then set up for victory in 08.