More info on how Rove wiggled out

[Quixote1818]

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Rove has been in negotiations with the prosecutor in recent weeks to prove he did not purposely deceive the grand jury. He has told friends he is most concerned about being charged with providing false testimony because he did not initially tell the grand jury about a conversation he had with Cooper about Plame before her identity was disclosed.

In an effort to show that Rove essentially forgot about the conversation, his legal team provided Fitzgerald with an e-mail exchange between Rove and former White House media spokesman Adam Levine that focused on a topic entirely unrelated to Plame or Wilson, the Los Angeles Times reported Saturday.

The exchange occurred several hours after Rove had talked to Cooper. And prosecutors this week went back and interviewed Levine again, asking whether Rove had mentioned his conversations with Cooper.

Levine told investigators that Rove had not brought up Plame or the Cooper conversation -- suggesting that the topics were not priorities for Rove at the time.

"Levine's acknowledgment that the Cooper conversation did not come up in my client's conversation with Rove seems to support a theory that it just wasn't that important to Rove and could therefore have been easily forgotten," Daniel French, Levine's attorney, told the Times.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/30/MNG4QFGE4N1.DTL&feed=rss.news

[speedoo]

1. I can't believe Fitz bought that.

That is basically irrelevant. If KKKarl is counting on that to keep from being indicted, he is a fool.

[highplainsdem]

10. I don't believe it, either. As you said, it's irrelevant.

[Pithy Cherub]

11. Fitz didn't. Rove wants America to buy that

and his White House cronies to know he was only giving inoccuous emails to Fitz. (Bet he gave Fitz something a whole lot more damaging but can't admit it.) Rove is using the media martinets (again) to catapault the propaganda.

[notadmblnd]

2. these are people that sat around and stratigized about how to ruin Wilson

in meetings, but it just wasn't that important? WTF?

[JDPriestly]

3. Why would he have mentioned the Wilson matter to Levine?

Is that what they were talking about? How long was the conversation with Levine? Rove's defense raises questions, but whether it raises enough of them to allow him to avoid being charged depends on the details. We just don't have enough information. Did he normally discuss every dirty maneuver with Levine? How close were they? Was Levine involved in the WHIG? This raises questions. Whether it helps Rove depends on the answers.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. There is nothing in this story but Rove spin.

For one thing, there is nothing substantial in the story to even back up the assertion that Rove "wiggled out." I think the whole purpose of the story is to provide cover for the actual reason Rove's lawyer met with Fitz, whatever that reason might be.

Suppose, for example, Rove actually sold Bush out. You wouldn't want the press speculating about that this weekend. Hell, you wouldn't want Bush speculating about it. So you feed them some dippy little story like this and they all go off to chew on it as if it actually had substance, like a demented dog with an imaginary bone. Meanwhile, Fitz contemplates his next moves with a new grand jury.

[leesa]

6. It would be so sweet if Rove sold out his own Frankenstein

[brentspeak]

13. You're deluding yourself

Fitzgerald has already stated that this is pretty much the end of the road for the investigation. Like it or not, that's it.

[KittyWampus]

18. you just keep on repeating that same sentence regardless of information

provided to you that points to a different reality. On multiple threads.

Why is that?

[brentspeak]

20. Probably because

Fitzgerald has said that the investigation is almost over, and that it's a rarity for further indictments to be handed down. And more importantly, I prefer DU to be as free of unsubstantiated rumors and "false-hope" stories as much as possible.

Looks like it's you that need to keep up on the information.

[Jane Austin]

26. Where did Fitzgerald say this:

. . . and that it's a rarity for further indictments to be handed down.

I just don't remember it.

[No Exit]

5. Little Adam Levine: the boy who put his finger in the dike.

Good work, Little Adam! So, like, when YOU goin' to Iraq to spread truth and democracy?

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. Rove did this to buy himself a little more time

Until Friday no one, including Rove, had any idea what direction Fitzgerald was going to go with this investigation. Now Rove knows and is planning his defense accordingly.

[WiseButAngrySara]

8. And he'll have a brand new GJ to lie to, if Fitz decides to use a new GJ

to continue his investigation.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. Fitzgerald said he will go to whatever GJ

is currently seated in DC. That shouldn't be a problem.

[leftofthedial]

9. I have abunch of emails to colleagues about all sorts of stuff

proving that I can't possibly be guilty of anything else.

[Gold Metal Flake]

12. I don't know that Rove has wriggled out of anything.

I believe that this is not over. I assume that if Rove will be indicted, it will be sometime in the future. Until then, there will be plenty of opportunity for those that support him to bullshit their asses off, to fill the silence left by reasonable persons who are waiting.

I prefer to wait, and ignore the bullshit.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Key point here

ONGOING negotiations... little fry meet hook... and get ready to become bait.

The rest of the story is fluff.

At least IMO... and it woudl be poetic justice if Rove turns into a gov'ment witness to save his sorry hide... it will make him more than just radioactive

yes caller, welcome to the karl Rove Hour, go ahead.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

16. Was Rove an official part of the administration able to receive classified

information? I thought Karl Rove was only officially given a White House post shortly after the 2004 elections and that beforehand, he was only George Bush's private political consultant. Did he ever sign any agreements to maintain secrecy as a member of the White House? If so, when? The only way to get these douchebags on a conspiracy charge is to allege the unlying substantive crime. Isolated instances of perjury or obstruction won't do it. If Karl Rove communicated classified information to reporters without authorization, then the person communicating to him (George Bush? Cheney?) can be prosecuted along with Rove himself. Unfortunately, Patrick Fitzgerald wasn't asked this question specifically relating to Rove and he also seemed to suggest that the Espionage Act, which would have been more applicable to this leaking than the IIPA Act, should not be applied in this type of situation.

[KittyWampus]

17. Not this stupid crap again, DU'ers keep posting it. If Anything This Woud

prove Rove has NOTHING to help him out of a possible indictment and is deeper shit then we realized.

[Quixote1818]

19. I agree 100% thats why I posted it

nt

[libertypirate]

21. I think the white house is throwing darts in the dark...

All with hope that they won't accidentally hit their life raft, and start sinking in shark infested waters.

[Carolab]

22. KARL ROVE LIED TO THE FBI. WHAT ABOUT THAT?

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/3463

[Media_Lies_Daily]

23. I think Fitz is letting Rove slowly twist in the wind with the noose...

...around his neck and one toe clinging precariously to the kick-stool.

"Wiggled out"? I don't think so, but you're welcome to your own opinions.

[kitty1]

24. Could be that Fitz has a sealed indictment with Rove's name on it...

and is going to check out his sudden death o/t info, to see if it can be collaborated or not. If Rove's info comes up empty, Fitz will have his ass on a rotisserie. JMHO.

[maryallen]

25. A talented, compartmentalizing sociopath ...

is able to walk and chew gum at the same time and we're supposed to believe that means he didn't "purposely deceive the grand jury??"

Yeah, right ... (sarcasm)