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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:48 AM
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NewsMax.com on the attack: Fitzgerald Indicted 60 Republicans
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 10:52 AM by highplainsdem
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/30/101014.shtml


With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Sunday, Oct. 30, 2005 10:02 a.m. EST

Patrick Fitzgerald Indicted 60 Republicans


<snip>

But reporters seldom note that Fitzgerald's biggest case prior to Leakgate is his ongoing corruption probe into former Illinois Republican Governor George Ryan, who happens to be on trial right now.

Fitzgerald indicted Ryan on corruption charges in December 2003, the same month he was tapped to probe Leakgate, in an investigation that saw more than 60 indictments of Ryan administration figures and political appointees.

For those keeping score on Mr. Fitzgerald's political targets, the count currently stands at 60-plus Republicans vs. 2 Democrats - not counting Mr. Libby.

<snipping paragraphs about Fitzgerald indicting the fiance of a Ryan aide he'd indicted earlier>

Reacting to Fitzgerald's hardball tactics earlier this month, Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn wrote: "The image that comes to mind is not so much a head in vise as that famous 1973 National Lampoon cover, 'If You Don't Buy This Magazine, We'll Kill This Dog.'"

<snip>



Presented in the interests of keeping tabs on RW talking points.

Don't let anyone try to tell you BushCo isn't attacking Fitzgerald. They're just doing it the oldfashioned BushCo way, through surrogates, to keep Shrub supposedly above the fray.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:49 AM
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1. the obvious answer to this
is that the Republicans are more corrupt.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:53 AM
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4. That is exactly what I was thinking, they are just damning themselves
because repugnicants commit more crime and are more corrupt, of course one would indict more repugnicants. They need to quite digging that hole me thinks! :rofl:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:55 AM
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9. Note how they aren't claiming these repugs are innocent.
Isn't it funny how they want quotas for prosecution...you can't prosecute 66 guilty republicans unless you find an equal number of democrats?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:24 AM
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19. You've got to be joking! Maybe the African Americans
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 11:26 AM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
should solicit the same treatment. Truly, the neocons are without shame.

Why not ask the neocons if the large preponderance of incarcerated African Americans suggests to them that a limit should be imposed on the number of African Americans consigned to the American prison gulag? If the neocon felons avoid imprisonment because it's not fair(!), why their felons could be used to offset the current racial imbalance - to make that fair!

Also, empty the country-club prisons into the hard-time mainstream. Life's not fair, but it could be made "fairer", if they really wanted it. Nothing quite like a fair society.

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 12:44 PM
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23. Yeah, that's exactly the response on A-A imprisonment
What, they must commit more crimes!

I think that in both cases, you have to compare apples to apples--namely, see if the prosecutor is as anxious to prosecute and seeks the same penalities rather than relying on raw numbers.

Given that today's Chicago Tribune headline, the repugs are going to have a hard time showing a bias on Fitzgerald's part. Illnoisans know that Fitz was brought in BY a republican to clean up republicans AND democrats.



Dark cloud hovers over Blagojevich
Federal investigation into hiring blunts governor's reformer image

By Rick Pearson, Tribune political reporter. Tribune staff reporter John Chase contributed to this report
Published October 30, 2005


Gov. Rod Blagojevich had been looking forward to promoting a high-profile political victory for his populist plan for child health insurance, but a burgeoning federal probe into his administration's hiring has cast a new cloud over a governor who promised to clean up Springfield.

Even before federal subpoenas were delivered to Blagojevich's office and the Illinois Department of Transportation last week, the Democratic governor was facing what polls showed to be a public skeptical of whether he deserved re-election or had fulfilled his campaign vows of "reform and renewal."
******

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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:33 AM
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22. You rob banks because
that's where the money is.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:51 AM
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2. Is that supposed to come as a surprise?
They aren't referred to as the "Culture of Corruption" for nothing!

Peace.
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:52 AM
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3. he let Rove go on a flimsy email
this attack isn't going to work.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:53 AM
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6. I really don't think he's let Rove go yet, despite all the spinning by
Rove's lawyer.
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:57 AM
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11. I hope that he didn't
but we'll find out soon enough.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:11 AM
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15. or maybe he just gave Rove a little more rope n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:53 AM
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5. Since Republicans are lying murderers all of them, they should be happy
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 10:53 AM by Mr_Spock
that we have a legal system to take care of them. Unless, of course, they'd like to go back to the old system? They should be very thankful that there only indictments...
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:54 AM
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7. Repugs hate it when their crimes are uncovered.
After all, nobody claims the 66 repugs prosecuted by Fitzgerald are innocent.

Here's a primer: Peter Fitzgerald was brought to Chicago as USA by Senator Peter Fitzgerald, R-Il, for the purpose of prosecuting government corruption. Plain and simple.

He's prosecuted the corrupt repug state government, sucessfully, and is also prosecuting Chicago city government. criminals of all parties.

But repugs hate getting caught, hate the Wilsons and Fitzgeralds who blow the whislte, hate the 9/11 commission...hate that truth being told. Hate, hate, hate. Crimes, they are okay with.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:55 AM
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8. Fitz got 66 INDICTMENTS in License-for-bribes
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 10:55 AM by strategery blunder
Doesn't mean that 66 people were charged, some got more than one count against them.

Hey, Newsmax, I have some swampland in the Everglades to sell you:eyes:
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:55 AM
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10. Maybe it is because most of the Repugs are crooks...
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:58 AM
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12. So, it just means repuke corruption is 33 times more likely than dem
That's a figure I find to be pretty accurate
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:05 AM
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13. Cripes Rove IS OFF HIS GAME. That's a doozy of a defense.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:13 AM
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16. personally I think Rove is out of it now -- Mehlman and Matalin
Edited on Sun Oct-30-05 11:15 AM by emulatorloo
are in charge I'm guessing. Rove too scared to do anything, if he has any sense at all.

agreed DUMB Strategy -- their best bet is to STFU and distance themselves from Scooter.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:29 AM
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21. GOOD! Melman=Nutkook. Matalin=Drunkie
The perfect combo to rep this Prezzydent.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:11 AM
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14. ah but if that headline were to be published today,
and all 60 in the *moron administration, senate, house...

sweet.
dp
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kevinmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:14 AM
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17. Glad too see Newsmax.......
agrees that Republicans are the Most Corrupt Party.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:26 AM
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20. *lol* ~ I was just thinking that
Much as I know the Republican Party is corrupt, I had no idea the statistics were that high for corruption in the Republican Party or that it was so low in the Democratic Party. :rofl:

I'm going to use that statistic to sway some swing voters I know. Thanks Newsmax, although they've never been the best source when it comes to fact-checking. More of a tabloid piece of garbage.

Still, I'll take good stats for Dems wherever I find them. And having a rightwing piece of garbage like Newsmax back me up, always works for those on the right I am forever trying to bring the truth to.

And that's just ONE prosecutor!! Wait 'til the Abramoff investigation gets going. And the trials of the spies in the Pentagon in January.

Yes, I will be posting that damning statistic on the rightwing board I go to tomorrow and when they ask me to 'prove it' as they always do, with their usual reguest 'and don't give me one of your lieing, leftie, commie websites' ~ I will be thrilled to give them a link to one of their favorite rightwing sites. :rofl:

Thanks Newsmax ~ keep it coming.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:14 AM
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18. Scooter fell on his sword, why don't they STFU? that would be a better
strategy. Why do they want to keep this up?
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:17 PM
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24. kick
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 10:23 PM
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25. They'd have to come up with something better than that.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:05 PM
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26. Not surprising...most Republicans are criminals
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:06 PM
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27. Limbacher is a freeper.
He posts his own stories in freeperland. NewsMax has been steady propaganda since last week.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:15 PM
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28. It's because Repukes are fuckin' criminals. Dems are not. (nt)
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:21 PM
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29. GOP's message: Wow look at all the crooked Republicans!
I LOVE THIS TALKING POINT!!!

There has to be a Democratic mole writing this stuff for them. Genius!
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 11:23 PM
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30. He indicted Democrats, too.
Jesus.

The man's a political independent. It's not partisan politics, you dipshits.
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