60 minutes on now!

[Tatiana]

In the intro, a lady says "we're being undermined by people in our very own government."

Sounds like this will be a good one!

[FreedomAngel82]

1. I forgot about this

Do you know if anyone will have this online?

[Tatiana]

2. Maybe Crooks & Liars or Can-o-Fun? n/t

[Tatiana]

3. What would motivate such a betrayal?

The special prosecutor in the investigation did not answer this question.

CBS wanted to know what happens when an agent for the CIA is exposed.

[aquart]

4. It's on? I've got football.

Where are you?

[jasmeel]

5. I've got football in Miliwaukee too. I'm watching Wilson on

Dateline.

[WiseButAngrySara]

7. Same here! Football and Wilson...good job so far. ....n/t

[Tatiana]

6. Background on Val

All the class went just by the initial of their last name. She was known as Val P.

Marcinkowski took the outing personally. He went public and blamed the WH. We held a particular trust for 18 years. If he has to keep those secrets, the WH should be held to the same standard.

Valerie recieved advanced degrees in London and Belgium.

On edit: Marcinkowski attended class at the CIA training facility in VA known as "the farm" with Valerie.

[FreedomAngel82]

9. Wow

I'm glad Fitzgerald made it clear that the outing of her was a big deal with our national security and it did harm all of us and not just them. He debunked all the rightwing talking points. And yes hopefully someone will have this so I can see it. I forgot all about it and I don't like to watch something after it began because I'm so lost.

[Tatiana]

8. Outing an agent.

Val was not attached to a US Embassy as a NOC. She would have had no protection if she was caught spying. Hugh Redmon was caught spying and died in a Chinese prison. He was likely a NOC. To this day, the CIA denies he was a spy.

[FreedomAngel82]

11. I wonder why they deny it

Maybe security issues?

[Tatiana]

22. Yes, I think it is standard policy for the CIA to deny involvement on the

part of any NOC.

[cynatnite]

10. She was an expert on WMD n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

12. Have they talked about Brewster Jennings?

[babylonsister]

17. Yes, the shadow firm of BJ was mentioned several times. nt

[Tatiana]

13. More...

Valerie Plame was working on important national security issues. She was an expert on WMD. These people are hard to find. She investigated networks, financial trails.

Congressman Holt, member of the House Intelligence Committee, says people who came into contact with Valerie may be in danger. ("Mitigating the damage.") Says there hasn't been a formal assessment of the damage.

[The River]

14. Even a Moran will Understand This!

This should end the "not a secret agent" meme. If not, they really are living in a fantasy world

[johnaries]

24. Yes! Completely destroys that talking point! I hope

many, many people saw this and Crooks and Liars or Can O' Fun archive it!

[The River]

47. I Don't watch 60 Min utes much any more

By the time they deem a story worthy of broadcast, I've known about it for months or years thanks to DU and the Internets.
60 Minutes is a show for a large number of non-news junkies.
They may catch a few minutes of some morning infotainment and probably
watch the evening news with dinner and maybe a local paper, but don't dig much below the surface. They DO watch 60 Minutes. That show has been on forever. It's a Sunday evening ritual. Middle America trusts it.
Middle America just got a major clue.

[Tatiana]

15. Joe Wilson

Told agency sale of uranium was unlikely. Wilson accused administration of lying to make case for war.

"It was the WH that decided to go after me and the tactic they used was to go after my wife. It was a shot across the bow to others, you do what Joe Wilson did to us and we'll come after you," according to Wilson.

Wilson - She felt like she'd been hit in the stomach. She recovered quickly, she became matter-of-fact afterwards. Making sure her assets were protected. Val realized her career was over. She wondered for what.

Wilson thinks Novak's actions were abominable. Val has been silent. The CIA still won't comment. Wilson can't comment other than to say there have been specific threats to them.

[Tatiana]

16. This is sad.

Val still reports to work everyday at CIA Headquarters. She can't remain in the clandestine service of the CIA, however. It's a very uncomfortable spot.

[babylonsister]

18. That was a great, informative segment. I hope TONS of

people saw it!

[NoodleyAppendage]

19. Clinton's cock... Clinton's cock... Clinton's cock... yamma yamma yamma

Must not...listen. The truth...it BURNS!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

B

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Devastating

How Rove can continue to work at the White House is a mystery and an outrage of first magnitude.

[Punkingal]

21. Wilson was great....

He was very low key and serious. It was the 2 former agents who were expressing the anger. Wow! What a great segment that was!

[Tatiana]

23. They were very credible.

I also think the segment shed light on why the CIA pushed for this investigation and wouldn't let the Bush administration get away with Ashcroft whitewashing things.

Valerie seems to be WELL-RESPECTED by all of her co-workers and friends.

[Punkingal]

26. I thought that also.....

And another thing that really came across is how much careful, hard work goes into the establishment of a cover, only to have those asswipes come along and destroy it. And it HAS to have affected others...it is so carefully crafted over time, how could it not?

[INdemo]

30. After watching 60 minutes

and listening to those former CIA agents and understand just how dangerous this was for Valeria and other agents still in the field I became more convinced that Congressional hearing must be held and bring every single Bushite responsible to justice.This is much more serious than Iran Contra If the Republicans in Congress block the hearing than they should be held accountable also.

[Reciprocity]

25. Until just now I didn't realize that Nofacts ....

also outed the fictitious company she worked for either. Why CNN is keeping him on their payroll is a mystery.

[elcondor]

27. It really was an incredible segment

Great reporting--I'd forgotten completely about the shadow company. When they mentioned it, I immediately thought "What if other agents were using that?" Of course the story answered that of course there could have been others ... and I got extremely angry all over again, haha

[INdemo]

31. The Insanity's and the Slimbaugh's will

discrediting 60 minutes for being strictly Liberal propaganda..Yep I can just hear it all now

[Punkingal]

28. And also, Bob Woodward is for sure a lying whore....

the Congressman said no damage assessment has been done yet!!!! What a piece of crap that Woodward has turned into!

[Reciprocity]

29. When Bradley asked "Did this damage her career?"

The answer was "This has ended her career."

[Catherine Vincent]

33. That was genius on 60 Minutes part to end it right after that.

Let it sink in to the masses out there. This was an informative piece for folks like my mom and dad that don't know much about this case. I sat there and watched it with them.

[LeinesRed]

32. NOVACULA looked bad...

"douche bag" as Jon Stewart calls him. This was a great piece!

[DemoTex]

34. Excellent timing, CBS! Kudos!

Now, grow some balls on the AWOL story, too. Rather was right. Get his back, chickenshits. Re-visit AWOL.


A.W.O.L.

[Yavin4]

35. Yeah But Anne Coulter Called Her A "Desk Jockey"

Anne's penis would not lie.

[jn2375]

36. CBS needs to run their Niger story they have been sitting on

[tandem5]

38. I know... what the heck are they afraid of now?

it couldn't be more pertinent.

[Vidar]

37. Excellent coverage. Maybe the CBS of Walter Cronkite is not yet dead.

[Nikki Stone 1]

39. Great report!

:kick:

[BadGimp]

40. this could me a devasting blow to Bushco

[Kurovski]

41. Kick. It's on on the west coast now.

NBC had just finished a report. Not too much spin from what I caught.

[speedoo]

42. Well, maybe Edward R. Murrow smiled a bit if he saw that.

Good Night and Good Luck, Mr. Murrow.

We miss you so much.

[yvr girl]

43. Novak is so evil

I believe in freedom of the press, but outing a CIA agent is just irresponsible, and damn unpatriotic.

[Reciprocity]

44. Tweety of all people calls him (Novak) The Prince of Darkness.

[Hissyspit]

45. Post Video Link! (I missed it)

Someone, please...

[serryjw]

46. We need to all go over and thank 60 minutes for an

excellent episode. The meme's have to stop comparing this to Clinton BJ.