Libby's kids are grade-school-age

[meg]

The senior White House aide was in seclusion over the weekend at his McLean home with his wife and two grade-school-age children trying, as one friend said, "to put one foot in front of the other," after being indicted Friday on five counts of lying, perjury and obstructing justice -- the only person charged in the 22-month CIA leak investigation.

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I know folks have been wondering. I was, too.

[Ken Burch]

1. I don't get it. Why does the age of his kids matter? nt

[moc]

5. Much less likely he'd want to go to prison for 30 years

and miss his kids growing up. Increases likelihood Libby will not fall on his sword for Cheney over his kids.

[meg]

27. If he at least cared about his kids

he might be more likely to make a deal and rat out the rat Cheney. This puff piece article is all pro-libby, poor libby. Ba wha wha. He gave up the big bucks and his lawyer-wife is now a stay-at-home wife without a salary.

He needs the big bucks for them to all have nano Ipods, Lexuses and Rolex watches for school. Now he has lawyer fees. Ba wha wha.

He family doesn't deserve paying for his crimes, but he does. Too bad he didn't care enough about his kids and OTHER peoples' kids to be a decent guy.

[Ken Burch]

48. He cared little enough about ANYBODY'S kids

that he saw no problem in being a member of the party that denied the nation's children universal health care.

That pretty much says it all.

[niyad]

2. actually, I don't give a **** how old his kids are, or anything but

whether or not he is going to go to jail, or rat out his fellow corrupt, lying cohorts.

[Why Syzygy]

3. He needs to spill beans

Come clean. Deprogram and turn state's evidence.

TALK LIBBY!

[kurth]

4. Lots of criminals have grade-school-age children

Too bad their fathers are creeps.

[deadparrot]

6. I do sincerely feel for the kids.

No matter how scummy their father is, it can't be a good environment at home for them, and if, god forbid, they turn on a TV or pick up a newspaper, or go on the Internet, they'll be inundated with the reminder that daddy's in a whole heap of trouble.

[kestrel91316]

7. And Valerie Plame Wilson's kids are 5.

Go cry me a river, Libby.

[MADem]

18. Yep, and they have to worry about Momma being offed by some

pissed-off outed source...or an angry government, concerned about what she may know.

Cry us a river, indeed!

He should have thought about his kids before he played hardball with a woman's life, and the lives of her contacts!

[jean]

33. Plus, Fox and others are continually bad-mouthing the Wilsons. Who

can guarantee this won't drive some moran wingnut to go after them?

[Eric J in MN]

8. If he wants to be home for them,

he should tell the truth about Cheney.

[senseandsensibility]

11. Good point

I wonder if he will.

[fooj]

25. We'll find out if his family and country mean more to him

than the fucking neocons and the PNAC. IMO, we'll find exactly who "Scooter" Libby is very soon.

peace.

[senseandsensibility]

39. Yes, it really is a stark choice for scooter isn't it?

One would hope he would pick his children, but he is a member of the most corrupt administration ever, so....

[MADem]

21. Not just a good point, a GREAT POINT!

His liberty, his ability to help them with their homework, attend their soccer games, go to their PTA meetings, why, it is ALL IN HIS HANDS.

Speak the truth, Scooter, and the truth will set you free!

[salinen]

40. The Scoots

may face hard time even if he does "out" the dickster.

[MADem]

42. If he hands Fitz Cheney, he goes free

Trust me, the Special Prosecutor will give him a complete and total pass if he testifies fully. And Cheney is probably not the only big fish he could give up.

He would have to write a great book, but he could get a bundle for it. And the movie rights, they would set him up for life. And then, there's always the "analyst" role on the cables, good for a steady income...he could set himself up more than comfortably if he bothers to THINK about his future.

Jail is a lonely place...

[dogfacedboy]

55. He's Cheney's bitch. He won't do it.

These vermin believe they are part of a "noble cause".

[Spazito]

9. I wonder if he put any thought towards the grade-school age of

the children of the soldiers he helped send over to Iraq to die for a lie. Somehow, I suspect those children NEVER entered into his thoughts.

[NanceGreggs]

13. Beautifully stated ...

... and, all too unfortunately, true.

[kurth]

14. Excellent point for sentencing hearing

Who's going to speak for the children of the 2,000+ U.S. soldiers (and the countless Iraqis) he killed?

[Why Syzygy]

47. It breaks my heart

when I see the newborns who will never know their dads.
They were offed in a needless, never ending, very high priced "war".
I don't even think of Ira*q as a "war". It is a killing field.
And I hate it.

Come Home.

[The_Casual_Observer]

10. Tough Ass Irving!

Put then in foster care if you have to, like what happens to everybody else.

[greenbriar]

12. to fucking bad

he should have thought of them BEFORE he became a scumbag traitor

[alittlelark]

15. Sixty-somethings w/ school age kids are.... uh

Stupid. They will likely be dead prior to college grad. WHY would anyone have a kid once they are past the age of 50??? At that point it is purely self-aggrandizement - the kid will get Little more than an inheritance..

[moc]

19. Hold on there. Scooter is is 55. My husband was 46 when our

youngest was born. Our kids will be 9yo and 15yo when my husband is Scooter's age.

Although I agree there are limits to when one should have kids, I don't think having "school-age kids" at age 55 is across that line.

[alittlelark]

24. I said 'sixty something'... your older hubby does not fit in my

parameters. Why be touchy?

[moc]

28. Scooter's not sixty-something. He's 55yo. What's your point

about ragging on older dads? Scooter's not in that category either.

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[Why Syzygy]

49. I don't care how old he is!

WHO CARES?

Think about it. Would it be better if he was a criminal and had grown children? How does that help? Grown people cry too.

Why are ya'll arguing about ages?
The fact of the matter is .. this guy is a CRIMINAL. And, he has close ties with many others, whom we hope he will squeal about.
RIGHT?

Let's leave childbirth choices to the individuals involved, if you don't mind.

[MADem]

26. Because they CAN

It makes them feel younger. Though he is not quite sixty yet, I do not think.

And I wonder how his wife, Harriet Grant, feels about his relationship with Judy, Judy, Judy....

She is a lawyer. If I were her, I'd visit every damn good divorce lawyer in the region for a consultation, requiring that they recuse themselves from representing him. But I am sure she already knows this...!

[alittlelark]

37. maybe he got a BJ and all parties will happily scooter him away.

[Mind_your_head]

16. Yes, it's always hardest on the children

(perhaps that should be considered/weighed heavily before jumping into such things---my children/your children....we're all connected. Damage to one causes damage to us all!)

Anyone remember this young man?:

[Bluerthanblue]

29. thank you

for being one of the few voices of hope amongst all the anger here -

i don't trust myself to say anything more-
just, thank you.

blu

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[Tatiana]

17. My heart goes out to those kids.

For having such a heartless dad as Scooter. If he wants to be in their lives during these formative years, he needs to learn the meaning of TRUTH and apply it in any future dealings with the special prosecutor.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Yep

And as others mentioned he put their lives at risk and all of our two countries children. Lots of little Iraqi children are dead now thanks to him. And a lot of American children are without a parent or both parents even because of him. I hope those dead Iraqi children he murdered are hanting him through his children's eyes. I hope he feels happy that he put their lives in danger too and the Wilson's little one's and their neighborhood kids.

[alphafemale]

20. That little Iraqi girl in the purple sweater...

...the dead one.

Hardly a mark on her except her foot hanging from her body by a thin scrap of skin.

She probably bled to death.

She looked to have been grade school age, too.

For a war based on lies...

Scooter had young kids, too?

He should be held MORE accountable, then.

Not less.

[jean]

22. Legions of small children lost their parents due to Libby's lies and

manipulations. There are far greater numbers of small children whose parents were permanently maimed and disabled as fodder for Libby and the war mongers.

Libby, former National Security Advisor to both the President and Vice President, is alive. He has not had a foot blown off by an IED, his broken foot will heal. I am not concerned about his children.

Thanks for the info on the ages of his kids.

[ClassWarrior]

30. Disfunctional, criminal parents are the best argument for a strong...

...social safety net and the proverbial African "village" that it takes to raise a child.

NGU.

[NNN0LHI]

31. More reason to cut a deal with Fitzgerald and cooperate n/t

[Ioo]

34. HE should have thought about their safety, when he F'ed National Security.

He must not care for them very much, he helped to make the world they live in a less safe place.

In short, political payback was more important than his children!

[Mind_your_head]

35. No, he figured he was among the 'elite'

HIS children would be fine....he didn't give a d*mn about the children of the rest of us. He was no 'public servant'. He was among the ones who WANTS the public to be his (and his children's) "slaves".

[applegrove]

36. Leave the kids out. Let the ones who love them take care of them.

Let's hope they are nowhere near a T.V. I'm sure Bush will find a way to pardon Libby. They'll be fine.

[dogfacedboy]

56. They will grow up to be cockroaches just like him. n/t

[punpirate]

38. If his kids didn't matter enough to him...

... to tell the truth and behave honorably while in office, why should I suddenly be concerned about their fate and reputation if he is convicted and goes to jail?

The goddamned fuckin' neo-cons are always prancing and dancing and singing about "personal responsibility." They're in a big fuckin' hurry to rape the poor while extolling their own virtues with regard to personal responsibility. Now that "Scooter" may wind up in jail, leaving his "school-age" kids in the care of their mother (who will get maintenance checks from Frank Gaffney's think tank, very likely), I'm supposed to have great empathy for him because of the condition in which he may leave them?

Jesus Christ on a bicycle, is this the way these people think, the horseshit they dispense to the press for public consumption? Could this possibly mean that his kids will have to drop out of that exclusive private school and have to, horrors, attend public school in Washington, DC, while they're waiting for Daddy to get out of jail for lying to everyone about what he did at the White House?

Yeah, I know, this is the oh-so-sad reporting of Lois Romano of the Post, but she got her information from Libby, his family and their friends. She didn't get one damned scrap of information about how desperately Scooter's kids will suffer from any of the dead soldiers sent to Iraq because Scooter helped send them there by his lies.

And, lest we forget--Scooter's yet another fucking chickenhawk who sent others to die for his ambitions and his empty goddamned ideology.

Let Scooter and his wife and his kids eat rats.

[Why Syzygy]

51. Let him stop lying.

Tell the truth, Libby. Talk to us.
Save the children.

[LibDemAlways]

43. Libby clearly doesn't care much about

his own children or he wouldn't have committed criminal acts that could send him to the slammer in the first place. Pretty obvious that he's willing to sacrifice other people's children for an illegal war based on lies as well.

Libby is scum. It's unfortunate that his children are saddled with a treasonous lying slimeball for a father, but I'll save my sympathy for the families of those killed by the actions of this murderous cabal. Libby's kids can eventually change their names if they want to and live in obscurity. Those six feet under won't have the same opportunity.

[sleipnir]

44. The kids likely have very damaged DNA due to his elderly age.

It's actually kind of horrible he chose to have children at his extreme age. Extreme in the sense of reproduction, not life experience or expectancy. Off the top of my head, if I recall correctly, a male should not try to foster children beyond the age of 39 due to the potential for major genetic problems. At his age, possibly fathering them in his late 40's, he's only got a slim prayer that those kids will have a healthy genetic future.

[alittlelark]

45. I am replying to agree w/you, and see if this reply is deleted as well

it's kinda curious.

[countryjake]

52. Ageism isn't exactly a liberal value, is it?

Why is it necessary to demean so many of us in his age bracket (and older)? Seems to me that of all the things the guy has done wrong, fathering some children is not one of them. Let's just hope that now his kids will be raised by someone with a bit of integrity, eh?

[Warren DeMontague]

53. Good way to not have them drafted in ten years

is to not run around the world starting wars based on bald-faced lies.

[dogfacedboy]

54. He's probably raising them to be cockroaches just like him.

I could give a rat's ass about that piece of shit, or his family. That whole f---ing culture he's from deserves to shoved off of this continent. They are the problem, and they have to go. They are enemies of our nation, and need to be treated as such.

[Hardrada]

57. They are the class enemy

and make sure the poor fight a rich man's war. I think they should be all sent to Antarctica or else placed in re-education all season camps.

[ngGale]

58. "The Wilson's" have children...

and over 2,000 of our country's children have died, in a war they lied us into...:cry:

Wasn't thinking about his children when he put himself in this position, so...only has himself to blame.

[Popol Vuh]

59. Hey Libby

I hope you read this.

If you never get to spend time with your kids as a free man again (which is a tragedy for your kids), I want you think of this while you're in jail thinking about your kids. I want you to think about ALL the THOUSANDS of little kids YOUR LYING killed you horrific bastard!!

[Why Syzygy]

60. He didn't have any problem

putting "one foot in front of the other" when he was aiding and abetting treason! Poor fellow. Was it difficult to put "one foot in front of the other" when starting an illegal and total morally bankrupt war? How did he manage that? Do those events not strike one as criminal events for which one will have to pay for someday?

Child Protective Services. Check into it.

[No Exit]

61. Pardon me, but WHO gives FUCK?????

WHAT ABOUT OUR KIDS? AND... EVERY ONE OF THOSE DEAD SOLDIERS WAS SOMEBODY'S KID!!

Frankly, and I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but it wouldn't bother me in the least if the Libby line died out. Instead, however, LIBBY'S LIES helped to KILL the children of INNOCENT PEOPLE!

[No Exit]

62. Good news for the little Libbys! Dad can spend more time with them!

[maximovich]

63. BooHooHoo

Too f*cking bad for his kid's. Irvin should have thought about this before he became a traitor to this country. Hopefully his kids don't turn out to be as warped and creul as their father.

Take responsibility for your own... remember that GOP?

64. don't do the crime if you can't do the time

He is a huge risk-taker and some part of his mind knew this could happen. However the riding the crest of the wave and the adrenaline rushes are a thing of the past, so that risk-taker part of him may die out so he can live.

Anyway, these people as Bush and Rove and Cheney don't have consciences. I would love to see Cheney scowl even harder if he gets indicted. Uh oh, I better stop, I think Monday blues are getting to me.

[Pathwalker]

65. So are many of the dead SOLDIER'S children!!!!

Many children have lost one of their parents in this war he helped produce!!!! Geesh!

[Lex]

66. And how many dead and mangled innocent Iraqi children too. nt

[Pathwalker]

67. Apparently they don't count.

But Libby's children do. :shrug:

[Bluerthanblue]

69. the only people saying they don't count

seem to be those whose compassion stops at their own 'political' boundries- something that I didn't expect from progressive liberal democrats-
but this is just my naieve 'i wish there truly were someplace, some ideal, some fellowship of people- with whom i can trust, believe, and not disagree on basic fundemental issues- like the value of the individual, the lack of focus on accumulating much wealth, the judgmental exclusivity that you are either 'one of us- or one of them and if you fall into the latter group then you don't mean shit.'

i guess i just gotta face up to the fact that human'kind' is hoplessly flawed, and destined to live in this 'rut' eternally-
Despite brief flashes of hope to the contrary- teasers, that keep life a viable option.

But as an old friend reminded me one day years ago- "A rut is just a grave, open at both ends".

Discouragement is too small a word for what i feel these days.

Dreaming... is getting harder and harder to achieve without chemical assistance

[No Exit]

68. Since he's in his 50's, maybe he's on Wife No. 2 or 3...