merbex
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:03 AM
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I don't think B* CAN fire Cheney - Cheney is a Constitutional Officer |
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who doesn't "sit" at the pleasuire of the President HE WAS ELECTED
B* can ask him to resign but (I'm no lawyer)HE CAN"T FIRE HIM
Why do I think this?
When I was a child the Board of Selectman in the coastal community next to to my hometown in MA FIRED another elected board. The individuals on the "fired" board sued and won ALOT of money in damages from the town. It was decided that one elected body cannot FIRE another elected body
The huffington post was linking to an article that recommended B* fire Cheney if he won't resign
All I'm saying is Cheney can sit there unless he is charged with a crime
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:05 AM
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1. asking him to resign, privately, would work |
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coupled with the threat to do it in public.
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:16 AM
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4. And what in the world makes you |
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think Bush would ask Cheney to resign? Especially if, as is generally acknowledged, Cheney is the real power behind the throne, the one who's actually calling the shots.
It's possible that if things got bad enough in terms of a potential indictment coming down the pike, the Republican leadership would go to Cheney and tell him he needed to resign, but it's hard for me to imagine Bush doing so.
These guys have a Hitler in the Bunker mentality. Even as the Allied troops and the fighting came within yards of the bunker, Hitler was delusional enough to think that somehow he could turn things around and still win the war. Otherwise, he believed, the German people deserved to be wiped out. While Bush isn't exactly at that point yet, the degree of delusion is as great. He does think that just because he nominated someone that someone should be confirmed, and silly details like just how conservative that person is, or what kind of a paper trail he or she has simply isn't important.
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:18 AM
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6. I agree it is highly unlikely, unless libby turns and offers evidence |
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:17 AM
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that Bush would praise Cheney to the high heavens for his service to the country?
I think Cheney and others do most of the work here anyway; I'm not sure Bush would ever take action to get rid of Cheney unless Bush was one hair away from going down himself.
But yes, VPs are elected. Currently we run a Presidential Candidate and a VP on the same ticket for the national election, but it wasn't always that way, and yes, to my understanding, everyone could vote for, say, a Republican President and a Democratic VP and that's the way it would be; they'd be in office together. Probably not much would get done, but...
So, no, I don't think he can literally "fire" him, but no one gets fired anyway - everyone resigns.
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:11 AM
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But Congress can impeach and remove an elected sitting President, right? Well, that takes the SCOTUS too. That's one example of elected bodies removing an elected official.
Hmm... Wonder if Congress has the power to impeach a VP?
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:16 AM
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3. Yes, Congress can impeach any elected official |
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Usually never happens because the official in question almost always resigns before it gets to that point.
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merbex
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Mon Oct-31-05 08:23 AM
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7. Impeaching is not firing in the sense that it is "You're fired, clear out |
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your desk and be gone in 30 minutes"
Impeachment is a whole process- hearings etc
All I'm saying is that B* does not have the authority to fire Cheney
I don't even think B* has the authority to limit Cheney's right to participate in meetings or to receive reports or to request reports
Bush can't stop Cheney from acting ipsofacto as Veep because he is Veep
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