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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:13 PM
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Matthew Cooper: Not Sure Libby Is A Perjurer
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/31/earlyshow/main996280.shtml

(CBS) A federal indictment alleges that Vice President Cheney's now-former chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby committed perjury during, among other things, a conversation he had with Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper.

Cooper says he's not so sure.

Libby resigned Friday after he was indicted by a grand jury, accused of obstructing its two-year investigation of the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame and lying about an effort to blow Plame's cover.

Special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said the CIA leak investigation is substantially complete, though "it's not over."

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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:16 PM
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1. OMFG! Libby is the definition of a perjurer. Cooper, you presstitute!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:16 PM
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2. Thanks Cooper.
I'll take Fitzgerald word over your's. :eyes:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:16 PM
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3. He committed perjury ABOUT the Cooper conversation, not DURING
Edited on Mon Oct-31-05 12:17 PM by elehhhhna
the Cooper conversation. That is some very sloppy writing. Read page 2 and it starts to make sense. The author of the CBS piece is confused.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:14 PM
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20. I was laughing at the excerpt posted
Lying to a reporter is against the law??? Oh no it isn't that is either just poor writing or they read the talking points wrong.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:17 PM
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4. Cooper afraid of losing pass to country club? n/t
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:17 PM
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5. sadly for cooper, Fitz has a solid case
I was rereading the indictment - Fitz has enough witnesses that indicate Libby was lying. And they are credible witnesses too. Libby was caught redhanded lying and obstructing justice.

I feel kinda sorry for Cooper -- he is way in over his head. . .wasn't he a newbie reporter when this whole thing started?
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:30 PM
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6. From the article it sounds like
Cooper is confused. It sounds like he thinks Libby is accused of saying things to him like 'I don't know if she works there. I've heard this from reporters' and a few other things that the prosecutor says constitutes perjury.

And he knows Libby didn't say those things to him, just confirmed it.

But the charge says that Libby testified that he said all those disclaimers to the reporters he talked to and that was the lie.

Maybe I am reading it wrong, but it seems cooper has it backward in his mind.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 12:44 PM
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7. Cooper isn't confused any more than the press was
confused about Judy Miller's case and the difference between a source and a criminal leaker. This is their new M.O. It gives the plausible deniability when the truth eventually comes out.

"Oh, I must have been confused." :eyes:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:34 PM
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15. Points at MMA -- Exactly on point Exactly
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:10 PM
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8. Well He Ain't on the Jury, Now Izzee n/t
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:21 PM
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9. In court nobody will care if he believes Libby, I was gonna say Liddy,
is guilty of perjury.

He won't be asked about that, he isn't a legal expert. He is just one person, who happens to write stories for Time magazine. All they will be interested in is what he says he said to the Scoot and what the Scoot said to him.

:eyes:
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 01:23 PM
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10. Cooper may be better getting out of it altogether
and disappear
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:03 PM
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11. Matt Cooper's attorney is Ted Olson.
That should tell us something.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:23 PM
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21. Omg, no wonder Cooper is trying to influence the jury pool
Another propagandist working for the government instead of the people. We need to clean out the government, but that would be easier to do if we first took back the media and got rid of these plants who've been supporting the lies and the liars, and cheating the American people out of their right to the truth.

A huge boycott of the media until all the moles have been outed and fired, is in order. We will never, ever have a democracy as long as the current crop of propagandists, so in bed with this cabal, is gone. There would have been no war, had the media done its job.

All the lies could easily have been exposed had we had a real media, instead of an arm of the government, cheering on this illegal war. I trust none of them, and thank god we don't have to depend on them anymore for news.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:12 PM
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12. Cooper's willing to sacrifice his own reputation to save his crooked
pal.

Because you'd have to be an idiot not to understand the charges, and Cooper is here claiming to be confused about the charges. Here's a clue (although we know you're just pretending to be an imbecile, Mr. Cooper): Libby said it was the TRUTH that he didn't know about Ms. Plame. The outright lie he told you (remember)? He claimed in front of the grand jury that it was true, just as he made that claim to you. Dumbass. Oh, and your so-called pal tried to throw you under the bus and hide behind a confusion of journalistic ethics. I don't suppose that would insult you at all, Mr. Cooper, since you seem to be a fucking fraud without any ethics at all. Fo get fucked, Mr. Cooper. You couldn't even take the jail time like your cohort in corruption Ms. Miller!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:16 PM
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13. Cooper has a reputation to sacrifice? He's not top string. Time must have
lost a lot of talent to put him on the WH beat.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:30 PM
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14. In his own mind, I'm sure
;-)
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:02 PM
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16. You give him too much credit.

Nothing like sitting around a bar as the patrons hoot and holler at some reporter conducting an interview on the evening news. It is amazing how badly reporters misunderstand simple statements made by interviewees while buying hook, line and sinker some non-answer that has all the bar patrons shouting, "he didn't answer the damn question, you moron!"

Political Journalist: a person who went to college to get degrees in reading and writing trying to explain the views of individuals who specialize in winning popularity contests.

Every time I hear somebody say, "she's too smart to fall for that," I have to ask myself, "are you watching the same news I am? Cause I have no idea where you got the idea these people were smart."
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:08 PM
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18. SADLY, Matt Cooper is considered a TOP journalist in DC.
Was with Newsweek many years, then lured to TIME. I'm afraid they've all been bought and sold. No honor among these thieves.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:12 PM
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19. More of the common theme I see in theblindly obedients to the NeoCons
Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:05 PM
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17. Is that Coopers mandate, to determine if Libby is guilty or not?
is he now a legal analyst?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:25 PM
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22. Wow. Did someone threaten Cooper? n/t
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