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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:32 PM
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the daily kos story on the phosphorus bombing of fallujah
and the video can be found here. should open in windows media player

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/7/11819/9522
Daily Kos: Italian Satellite TV to Broadcast Evidence of US Use of Chemical Weapons on Civilians

http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/clips/Video%5Cfallujah_Rainews24.wmv
Video\fallujah_Rainews24.wmv (video/x-ms-wmv Object)



http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.rainews24.rai.it/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drai%2Bnews%2B24%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DPDJ%26lr%3D
Translated version of http://www.rainews24.rai.it/

click on article and you`ll get a new page with the video link if your media player isn`t microshit
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:34 PM
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1. Thank you for this. n/t
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:35 PM
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2. Sure changes my outlook on things...
First person that tells me to support anything is gonna get decked.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:48 PM
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3. IF the truth about Fallujah ever comes out, I would be amazed
In talking with vets who were there, Fallujah was a disaster of epic proportions. Thank you for the webpages. Peace
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:58 PM
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4. so why don't Italian or Spanish prosecutors
charge US troops with war crimes? Both countries have laws which permit this?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:07 PM
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5. Who's word would you trust about this, the pentagon?
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callady Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:10 PM
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6. this has been known (and denied) for quite a while
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 11:18 PM by callady
Incinerating Iraqis: The Napalm Cover-Up
by Mike Whitney
www.dissidentvoice.org
June 27, 2005

...

Two weeks ago the UK Independent ran an article which confirmed that the US had “lied to Britain over the use of napalm in Iraq.” (6/17/05) Since then, not one American newspaper or TV station has picked up the story even though the Pentagon has verified the claims. This is the extent to which the American “free press” is yoked to the center of power in Washington. As we’ve seen with the treatment of the Downing Street Memo, (which was reluctantly reported five weeks after it appeared in the British press) the air-tight American media ignores any story that doesn’t embrace their collective support for the war. The prospect that the US military is using “universally reviled” weapons runs counter to the media-generated narrative that the war was motivated by humanitarian concerns (to topple a brutal dictator) as well as to eliminate the elusive WMDs. We can now say with certainty that the only WMDs in Iraq were those that were introduced by foreign invaders from the US who have used them to subjugate the indigenous people.

“Despite persistent rumors of injuries among Iraqis consistent with the use of incendiary weapons such as napalm” the Pentagon insisted that “US forces had not used a new generation of incendiary weapons, codenamed MK77, in Iraq.” (UK Independent)


The Pentagon lied.


Defense Minister, Adam Ingram, admitted that the US had misled the British high command about the use of napalm, but he would not comment on the extent of the cover up. The use of firebombs puts the US in breach of the 1980 Convention on Certain Chemical Weapons (CCW) and is a violation the Geneva Protocol against the use of white phosphorous, “since its use causes indiscriminate and extreme injuries especially when deployed in an urban area.”


Regrettably, “indiscriminate and extreme injuries” are a vital part of the American terror-campaign in Iraq; a well-coordinated strategy designed to spawn panic through random acts of violence.


And here from 2003:

Results are 'remarkably similar' to using napalm

By James W. Crawley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 5, 2003

American jets killed Iraqi troops with firebombs – similar to the controversial napalm used in the Vietnam War – in March and April as Marines battled toward Baghdad.

Marine Corps fighter pilots and commanders who have returned from the war zone have confirmed dropping dozens of incendiary bombs near bridges over the Saddam Canal and the Tigris River. The explosions created massive fireballs.



Mark 77 Firebomb

"We napalmed both those (bridge) approaches," said Col. Randolph Alles in a recent interview. He commanded Marine Air Group 11, based at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station, during the war. "Unfortunately, there were people there because you could see them in the (cockpit) video.

"They were Iraqi soldiers there. It's no great way to die," he added. How many Iraqis died, the military couldn't say. No accurate count has been made of Iraqi war casualties.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/20030805-9999_1n5bomb.html
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:59 PM
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7. So in Farenheit 911 this is what the soldier meant...
when he said "burn ****** burn". I hope the Italians blow this wide open.
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callady Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 12:10 AM
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8. Mark 77 Bomb
Mark 77 bomb

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.


The Mark 77 is a US 750-lb (340-kg) air-dropped incendiary bomb that carries 110 gallons (415 litres) of a fuel gel mix that is the direct successor to napalm.

Mk-77s were used by the US Marine Corps during the First Gulf War. Approximately 500 were dropped, reportedly mostly on Iraqi-constructed oil filled trenches. Thirty Mk-77s were also used in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Use of incendiary bombs against civilian populations was banned in the 1980 United Nations Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. The US has not signed this agreement although they did retire use of napalm. The Mk-77 is the only incendiary bomb currently in use by the United States military. Another incendiary weapon - white phosphorus - is allegedly being used as an incendiary weapon in the current Iraq War. White phosphorus or 'Willie Peet' is used primarly as a smoke-screening agent. Only the US and Russia continue to invent and use gelled fuel bombs.

The chemical used differs from napalm of the Vietnam War era in that it is based on kerosene and a polystyrene-like gel and reportedly contains an oxidizing agent. This will make it even more difficult to put out once ignited. The official designation of Vietnam-era napalm bombs is the Mark 47. Mk-77s are commonly referred to as napalm in US Military slang.

The US military has issued denials against articles claiming the use of napalm in cases where it seems that Mk-77s had actually been deployed (see referenced articles). The Pentagon has claimed that the Mk-77 has less impact on the environment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_77_bomb
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