"The Heat is On...." Fox News on Global Warming: Bobby Kennedy Jr!

[Gabi Hayes]

he's an old friend of Roger Ailes

went camping with him in Africa about thirty years ago, so has deep connection

anyway, on his AAR show today he talked about meeting with Ailes, and convincing him to go to Al Gore's speech on global warming, whenever that was

as a result, he had Fox do an investo on global warming, going to Glacier National Park, which had about 160 separate glaciers as recently as 20 years ago. According to Kennedy, there are only 17 left, and they'll all be gone in twenty years.

Fox's show airs tomorrow night at 8PM, EST, in case anybody's interested

http://www.foxnews.com/foxfan/



Laurie David, one of the hosts, I guess

[CountAllVotes]

1. this is the man I'd like to see as our next President

and in his cabinet or perhaps vice president Kucinich.

RFK, Jr. = the real deal.

:kick:

[Gabi Hayes]

2. I have no problem with that, but his voice wouldn't allow him to campaign

he talked the other day about considering running for NY governor, though

Herbert Glacier: this river of ice, god knows how many thousands of years old: GONE in twenty years



it's only a little planet, and we're destroying it as fast as we possibly can

[CountAllVotes]

4. well FDR was President

and FDR was in a wheelchair but no one knew. He was able to hide it at that time in history.

Maybe RFK, Jr. can get someone to help him or some device for his voice if needed.

I think it is discriminatory to discount him because of HIS VOICE.

RFK, Jr.'s vital work and his fine name and what he is doing is what is important. Kucinich CAN deliver perhaps if needed.

:kick:

[Gabi Hayes]

5. didn't mean to convey that, but I don't see how he could physically do it

and, from what I've heard from him (on radio), I don't think he's really interested

not to mention how things have turned out for other members of his family, and all that

who knows?

we do need somebody who's not completely hamstrung by the normal business/politics nexus, though, which seems an impossible conundrum

[CountAllVotes]

11. you are digging your hole deeper

what is this physically able to do it?

He seems alright to me!

As for the rest of his family, it is a very BIG family and there is someone named Ted Kennedy that isn't going to last forever that has done a fantastic job.

I never even thought of "his voice" as being an issue.

:kick:

[Gabi Hayes]

12. then you don't know very much about him, do you?

'digging your hole a little deeper,' huh?

wise up, then lighten up, Francis

[CountAllVotes]

16. then elaborate

What is the issue? If he is thinking of running for Governor of New York then why could he not physically be able to run for President of the United States? I am missing something I guess.

:kick:

[Gabi Hayes]

17. there's this thing...it's called google

and try being a little more polite, OK?

we're on the same side, see?

[Gabi Hayes]

18. I'm so nice

http://www.google.com/search?q=bobby+kennedy+jr.+spasmodic+dysphonia&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&start=10&sa=N

[goclark]

6. I'll take RFK ANY DAY! They can always get someone to

speak for him if he is delivering a major speech.

I am so sick of HEARING the Chimp speak LIES!

I want to see a MAN that tells the TRUTH.

I can understand Robert Kennedy just fine~

It would also speak volumes for the millions of people in the world who have "disabilities" that are not allowing our fears to disturb their dreams.

RFK Jr. for President!!!!

[AntiCoup2K4]

23. FDR didn't have a father and an uncle murdered by the BCE

No Kennedy will ever run for President again. And you sure as Hell couldn't blame them.

[MelissaB]

7. What a dream President! I think he's the real deal, too.

:kick:

[CountAllVotes]

8. yes RFK, Jr. is the real deal

and I am happy as HELL that he is considering running for the Governor of New York!!! :party: Great News!!! :toast:

I have some hope now! He has what we need! Anyone with a brain can see this tremendous need and very fine and intelligent man can do the job! He has the connections and the skill!

RFK, Jr. for President in 2008!

YOUR TIME HAS COME!!! We the People Need YOU!!! :patriot:

:kick:

[OneBlueSky]

24. an Al Gore/Bobby Kennedy ticket would be unbeatable . . .

AND would ensure that the one issue that overrides all others -- the environment -- would finally be addressed head on . . .

[Gabi Hayes]

3. see?

speaking of David Brower

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0374514313/002-6646372-9479260?v=glance

Born in 1915, the mountaineer and outdoorsman David Brower has arguably been the single most influential American environmentalist in the last half of the 20th century; even his erstwhile foes at the Department of the Interior grudgingly credit him with having nearly single-handedly halted the construction of a dam in the heart of the Grand Canyon, and he has converted thousands, even millions, of his compatriots to the preservationist cause through his work with the Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth, and other organizations.


Brower was in the thick of battle when John McPhee profiled him for the New Yorker in a piece that would evolve into Encounters with the Archdruid. McPhee follows Brower into unusually close combat as Brower faces down a geologist who is, it seems, convinced that there is no sight quite so elevating as that of a fully operational mine; a developer who (successfully, it turned out) sought to convert an isolated stretch of the Carolina coast into a resort for the moneyed few--and who provided the title for McPhee's book, wryly opining that conservationists are at heart druids who "sacrifice people and worship trees"; and, most formidable of all, former Interior Secretary Floyd Dominy, who oversaw the construction of a structure that for Brower stands as one of the most hated creations of our time, Glen Canyon Dam on the Colorado River.

McPhee offers up an engaging portrait of Brower, a man unafraid of a good fight in the service of the earth, making Encounters an important contribution to the history of the modern environmental movement.

[halobeam]

9. I'm in the RFK zone... I love this guy.

Democracy: unique and fragile.
Politics: ancient and predictible.
Citizens: innocent and yet underestimated in their strength.

RFK: priceless:P

[Gabi Hayes]

10. Interview with Kennedy

Q: You are well-known for converting celebrities and politicians to the environmental cause through speeches in which you frame environmentalism as a civil-rights issue. Let's start there. How is environmentalism a civil-rights issue?


A: The environment is the most important, the most fundamental, civil-rights issue. In the word ecology, the root "eco" is the Greek word for home. It's really about how we manage our home. The environmental movement is a struggle over the control of the commons -- the publicly owned resources, the things that cannot be reduced to private property -- the air, the water, the wandering animals, the public land, the wildlife, the fisheries. The things that from the beginning of time have always been part of the public trust.


Q: From the beginning of time?


A: Environmentalism didn't begin on Earth Day. It's been recognized for thousands of years as a basic human right. The code of Justinian for the first time outlined environmental rights as essentially fundamental rights. If you were a citizen of Rome, you had an absolute right to cross a beach to catch a fish. The emperor himself couldn't stop you. In England, in the 13th century, they had a clean air act. It was illegal to burn coal in London. It was a capital crime and people were executed for it.

When Roman law broke down in Europe during the Dark Ages, a lot of the feudal kings began reasserting control over the public-trust resources. For example, in England, King John began selling monopolies to the fisheries and he said the deer belonged to nobility. The public rose up and confronted him at the Battle of Runnymede and forced him to sign the Magna Carta, which of course was the beginning of constitutional government. In addition to having virtually all of our Bill of Rights, the Magna Carta has two other chapters on free access to fisheries in navigable waters. And those rights descended to the people in the States when we had the revolution. And virtually every state constitution says the people of the state own the waters and the fisheries, the wildlife, the air. They're not owned by the governor, the legislature, the corporations. Nobody has a right to use them in a way that will diminish or injure their use and enjoyment by others.


http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2004/07/13/griscom-kennedy/

[CatholicEdHead]

13. Of course they will fill endless hours debunking this with their pundits

So three hours on the weekend will not mean much.

[mandyky]

14. Trying to syphon viewers from West Wing!

Wonder what West Wing is about tomorrow? LOL
I will NEVER trust FOX, they could have Bobby, Howard Dean and Hillary on every damned night. They are pure evil. As long as they have shows like O'Liely's and Hannity's NOTHING has changed.

[Gabi Hayes]

15. replying to 13 and 14

of course they'll be debunking, but with Laurie David as host, or whatever, at least there'll be some sort of fairness and balance in the presentation. that'd be my guess

and even lots of wingnuts have come to the realization that something is dramatically wrong with our environment

I almost never watch Fox, but will tape the show, and see what they have to say

we're liberals here, right? doesn't that mean we should be open-minded, at least to a certain degree?

and if this show sheds some light on the subject for the average, benighted dunderhead who chooses Fox as his/her newsfare, then so much for the better

at least the seed will be planted

half full view of things, for a change, yes?

[mandyky]

19. Open-mindedness is not a trait most Fox viewers have

Watch if you want, but other than the primary debates, I haven't watched Fox since the Invasion of Iraq. Watching CNN and MSNBC can be painful enough. I am not into self torture from a KNOWN propoganda outlet. Call that close minded if you like, but I will watch West Wing tomorrow night.

[Gabi Hayes]

21. ouch! it's rerun later.....and check the thread I linked, with similar

views as yours....some of them seemed to have sorta come around to a more neutral view

[Gabi Hayes]

20. earlier thread on this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5336143

[Gabi Hayes]

22. thanks to rodeodance on other thread, here's RFK @ Huffingtonpost

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/fox-n...

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Bio
11.11.2005
Fox News' Global Warming Special: Putting the Conserve Back into Conservatism

A Fox News Special “The Heat is On: The Case of Global Warming” airing this Sunday at 8:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. EST, documents the devastating impacts that global warming is already having on our planet. In one segment of the show, I accompany a Fox News crew to Glacier National Park in Montana where only 27 of the 150 glaciers that graced the park in 1850 remain--and these will be gone within our generation.
The portrayal of global warming in Fox’s piece is both fair and accurate.

I spent a summer in a tent in Africa with Roger Ailes in 1973 making a wildlife film. He is charming, affable, very smart, and very, very funny. Although we both believe that each other’s politics are misguided, we have remained friends for three decades. Last year, I asked Roger, as a personal favor, to attend Al Gore’s New York City update on global warming science.

Although he left that presentation still agnostic, he was convinced that the debate deserved a public airing. I argued that since there is no such thing as Republican or Democratic children, global warming should not be a partisan but only a scientific issue. The Fox News team did a superb job exploring the science. This film should be seen be everyone. The end product goes a long way toward putting the conserve back into conservatism.

stopglobalwarming.org