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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:23 PM
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Wanna be outraged? Woodward's remarks on LarryKLive on 10/27.
It's more than a little disconcerting--that Woodward kept secrets for these thugs AND ALSO acted as their mouthpiece on national television.

Those two actions appear to make him one of the BushCo thugs. I was angered when I saw Woodward's pro-BushCo remarks on LKL. Now, I'm completely disgusted and I want to know how Woodward can possibly live with himself?

Here's some of what Woodward said on "Larry King Live"--just a few weeks ago--on October 27. (Link to full transcript at the bottom).
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WOODWARD: But Michael's point is exactly right. There is deep mystery here. It only grows with time and people are speculating and there are -- there is so little that people really know.

Now there are a couple of things that I think are true. First of all this began not as somebody launching a smear campaign that it actually -- when the story comes out I'm quite confident we're going to find out that it started kind of as gossip, as chatter and that somebody learned that Joe Wilson's wife had worked at the CIA and helped him get this job going to Niger to see if there was an Iraq/Niger uranium deal.

And, there's a lot of innocent actions in all of this but what has happened this prosecutor, I mean I used to call Mike Isikoff when he worked at the "Washington Post" the junkyard dog. Well this is a junkyard dog prosecutor and he goes everywhere and asks every question and turns over rocks and rocks under rocks and so forth.

KING: And doesn't leak.

WOODWARD: And it doesn't leak and I think it's quite possible that though probably unlikely that he will say, you know, there was no malice or criminal intent at the start of this. Some people kind of had convenient memories before the grand jury. Technically they might be able to be charged with perjury.

But I don't see an underlying crime here and the absence of the underlying crime may cause somebody who is a really thoughtful prosecutor to say, you know, maybe this is not one to go to the court with.

KING: You're saying this is a maybe.

WOODWARD: A maybe, only a maybe.

---Then there's this exchange------

WOODWARD: I agree but there is some factual problems here. When Wilson went to Niger before all this blew up, in fact before there was a war, he came back and reported and Michael and others who have read the Senate Intelligence Committee on this know his report was very ambiguous.

In fact, most of the analysts at the CIA said that Wilson's findings when he went to Niger supported the conclusion that there was some deal with Iraq. Now that's, I mean the Democrats -- the Democrats and the Republicans all signed that report. That is a fact. And, you know, there are other facts and speculation.

DODD: That report didn't go into all of that. The report was about other issues. I mean...

WOODWARD: No, but it did. I've got it in my pocket. I'll read it if you want.

DODD: (INAUDIBLE) the mood here was to sell this and we now know because it was false. The information was false and to suggest that there weren't weapons of mass destruction on the nuclear program there was going to be a major blow to that argument. It's a very important issue.

KING: You walk around with this in your pocket?

WOODWARD: Yes, yes, I do because I knew I might be challenged.

ISIKOFF: Actually, we don't know exactly what Joe Wilson said when he came back because he didn't actually write a written report. You know it was an oral debriefing so you have CIA analysts who might have interpreted it in different ways.

But, the point -- there's a lot here we don't know but there's some that we've learned in recent weeks that does suggest that they really were out to get Wilson or criticize him or tear him down a bit.

If you read Judy Miller's account of her conversations with Scooter Libby, she talks about how angry Libby was about what Wilson was saying publicly and perhaps for understandable reasons. He was challenging the nuclear claim made by the vice president, which was central to the argument, the case for war, the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud.


Much much more at link, and worth the read! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/27/lkl.01.html
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:27 PM
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1. Remember, The CIA Asked For The Investigation
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:27 PM
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2. deep mystery, feh! he'll rue his words some day.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:34 PM
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3. Exactly...those quotes now make Woodward look like an ass...
WOODWARD: But Michael's point is exactly right. There is deep mystery here. It only grows with time and people are speculating and there are -- there is so little that people really know.

Oh realllly Bob? And why is it that people know "so little"? Is it because BushCo propagandists like yourself keep the truth hidden under a rug?

Here's a guy who supposedly did right by the American people--by unearthing corruption on an administration. What does he do 30 years later? He cozies up to an even MORE CORRUPT administration--dines with them, writes flattering books about them, apologizes for them, defends their anti-American behavior and then covers up their crimes during an investigation.

Can you imagine what Carl Bernstein is thinking tonight?


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Kurt Remarque Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:38 PM
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4. he should just eat shit and die
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:40 PM
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5. What a Sellout
It's very sad to see how far Woodward has fallen. He used to expose political criminals, & now he is in with them. I am becoming so disgusted with this whole era. I want it to be over. I'm tired of the news media being censored or playing stupid fluff-pieces. I'm tired of reality-shows & celebrity worship. I'm tired of Americans who won't *think*. And I'm especially tired of sellouts.

Tammy
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:43 PM
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6. Amen, very well said...
...that's exactly how I feel tonight.

"All the President's Men" was one of my favorite movies. It gave me hope that we can win against corruption.

Now, Woodward's in over his head with thugs who make the Nixon Administration look like amateurs.

I'm with you...I'm so tired of all of this. It's so amoral. It's so agonizing...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:46 PM
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7. Ya think Larry will invite Woody back?
Hmmmm?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:47 PM
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8. Oh, I love being "Outraged"..
it's second nature to me now.

woodward thinks he's so SLICK..be nice if this mediawhore went down, too.
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