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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:50 PM
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VIDEO: McGovern Interview about Discharge Petition and H.R. 4232
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 11:59 PM by kevin_pdamerica
Rep. Jim McGovern was at a PDA fundraiser two nights ago with Cindy Sheehan, John Conyers, and others...

November 16, 2005--Watch exclusive online video of Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) being interviewed regarding his bill H. Res. 4232, which would cut off funding for the Iraq war. See links below to select a clip appropriate for your Internet connection speed. Then take action to support the resolution! (also see photos by Ben Slade: http://blog.pdamerica.org/?p=416)

Rep. McGovern Video Clips (56k Modem: http://www.pdamerica.org/video/2005-DC-board/McGovern56k.ram) (Broadband: http://www.pdamerica.org/video/2005-DC-board/McGovernBroadband.ram)

TAKE ACTION: http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/callalert/index.tt?alertid=8192396&type=CO
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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:51 PM
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1. PDA on the Hill - Out of Iraq Press Conference


PDA on the Hill - Out of Iraq Press Conference
By Mike Hersh

Wednesday, November 15, 2005 / Washington, DC--When Rep. Maxine Waters closed the Out of Iraq Press Conference at the Longworth Office Building this morning, Progressive Democrats of America had come of age. This event was part of two days packed with activism, retrospectives, and planning, and confirmed that PDA has a new mission. Several members of the House Out of Iraq Caucus specifically charged us and other activists with leading the efforts to force a long-overdue discussion of Iraq policy in the House of Representatives.

Rep. Waters opened the press conference by offering best wishes for PDA National Advisory Board member Cindy Sheehan who was about to stand trial for civil disobedience at the federal courthouse a few blocks away. PDA Chair Mimi Kennedy, Executive Director Tim Carpenter, and Political Director Kevin Spidel dashed from a vigil with Cindy to attend the announcement this morning.

Rep. Waters listed the staggering costs of the war: $250 billion, more than 2,070 US troops killed, 15,000 injured, 400 limbs amputated. She pledged to examine and analyze the "distorted" information which led us into war, and--with our help--lead us out of Iraq. She recounted that in only six months, the Out of Iraq Caucus has grown to include 70 House members of various points of view, but united in the desire to formulate a strategy to lead America out of Iraq: "All of us want out of Iraq."

Our contingent met with our friend Rep. Dennis Kucinich who put a perfect name on this effort, calling this "an Honorable Discharge from Iraq," including both the subject matter and the legislative effort at hand. Rep. Waters announced that Rep. Barney Frank will manage the effort to allow open debate on Iraq policy through a "discharge petition" on House Joint Resolution 55. The petition would allow 218 Members of Congress to move the item directly to the House floor for open discussion without requiring committee support. Rep. Frank explained this step would not be necessary "if the Republican Leadership had any respect for democracy."

Resolution co-author Rep. Neil Abercrombie invited all Republicans, Democrats, and the lone House Independent Bernie Sanders to join with the Representatives in the room supporting an "open rule," allowing any member to offer any amendment to the resolution. He presented his bipartisan approach as "an opportunity for Republicans to join with us," and called it a "direct vehicle available to any member to the floor." He anticipates "lines of people at the Clerk's desk" seeking to support the effort. He called this a "kick off" and an opportunity for the American people to demand accountability.

Rep. Frank said, "The House ought to be able to have a debate" on what he called the "single most important issue" facing the Congress and the nation, and explained this discharge petition would permit the debate. He dismissed President Bush's claims that debate on Iraq policy was "irresponsible" and rejected Bush's excuse for misleading the Congress and the American people because "other people were wrong, too" as a "so's-your-mother defense."

Rep. Kucinich demolished Bush's other main talking point, that Democrats have no grounds to question his dismal Iraq policies because they supported it. Kucinich countered the spin with the hard numbers: "Two-thirds of current House Democrats one-half of current Senate Democrats" opposed the resolution empowering Bush to use force. Kucinich declared that Bush can "no longer claim he was misled and continue to mislead." He noted that the American people do not support the war or this president, and he called this, "the beginning of the end of the war."

Rep. Marcy Kaptur said, "Our goal is to have a conversation with the American people." She pointed to three keys to this discussion. First, "Moral Legitimacy: lost that moral edge" starting with the revelations of atrocities at Abu Ghraib, after which "casualties doubled." She stressed that "in the military slogan 'Honor, Duty, Country' honor comes first." Second, the Bush Administration is setting up a "parallel system" of mercenaries--thousands of "contractors" who conduct the "questioning" of prisoners and undermine our military. Third, she warned of apparent and rumored plans to "hold up" the Defense Appropriations bill to link the spending on the war and occupation to spending for all agencies and services-- an effort to "hold the entire nation hostage" to the Bush war policies.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee called this an "unconstitutional war" and called HJRes 55 the "fix-it resolution." She said this is Vietnam reincarnated, and assured there is "no division" between this effort and the troops. She said this effort is all about having our people return from Iraq "with dignity and success." This will "say to the American People, 'your voices are heard.'" She told of her visits to the troops in Iraq, as well as hospitals in Germany and the US-- people she called "victims of war."

Rep. Lee described one such victim, a servicewoman "burned from head to toe" who was only concerned about her mother. Rep. Lee said, "The President misled the Congress" with "false and misleading reasons" for the war, and said it's "crucial we have this debate." She rushed off, but ducked back into the room to take Tim Carpenter's card. She's depending on PDA to help force the overdue debate which will get us out of Iraq.

Rep. Lynn Woolsey--one of the co-chairs of the House Progressive Caucus--praised activists like us for "putting the starch in the spines" of House Members. She might have recalled the "Backbone Award" which PDA, in partnership with the Backbone Campaign, gave her for her courage and leadership in that statement. She said it's time the Congress started "hearing the voices of the American People" and pass what she called the "Homeward Bound" Resolution. She's heard your voices. She said this effort began in the House with her amendment to the Defense Authorization requesting the White House articulate some exit plan or strategy. Her measure was defeated, but gained bipartisan support and set the stage for Rep. Barbara Lee's and Rep. Dennis Kucinich's Resolutions of Inquiry.

Rep. Jim McGovern said, "I believe this war was a mistake from the very beginning" and went on to offer pure common sense: "here are two things you can do with a mistake - you can correct it or you can compound it. H J Res 55 is an attempt to correct this mistake by requiring the President to develop and implement a meaningful plan to end our military involvement in Iraq." It's important to understand that this discharge petition would open the House floor to other efforts, including McGovern's "HR 4232 immediately end funding for the war. Both of these are better than 'staying the course,' as the Bush Administration would have us do which would only compound the mistakes we have made in Iraq." McGovern declared Bush's failed approach "unacceptable," and joined with his colleagues offering solutions which will work.

Rep. Barbara Lee - the other Co-chair of the House Progressive Caucus and a close PDA friend - said the White House refuses to respond to questions about the Downing Street Minutes despite signatures from 500,000 Americans and 100 Members of Congress. She was referring to a petition effort led by PDA Advisory Board Member Rep. John Conyers with signatures collected through PDA efforts in league with our allies in the After Downing Street Coalition. She explained that this discharge petition drive is building on her Resolution of Inquiry. That resolution would have required answers and demanded accountability from the administration. PDA joined with the After Downing Street Coalition leading lobbying efforts on behalf of that Resolution which fell a few votes short. Rep. Lee praised "the organizations present" - by this she meant PDA - for the progress made, and asked us to "keep the heat on."

Most Representatives who spoke made similar requests of us, some frankly stating that conventional wisdom on the Hill says, "don't cosponsor, don't get involved unless voters in your district ask you to." These progressive members of Congress said that the world-wide reputation of the United States is suffering because people around the globe don't believe we're going to ever leave Iraq. They stressed the need for ongoing Congressional efforts - with increasing Republican support - to bar permanent bases and other entanglements with Iraq such as "sweet heart deals" for oil.

It's up to us to mobilize voters across the country to demand their Representatives support this discharge petition and pass the underlying legislation. For this effort to succeed, it's your work that will make it happen. Many of these Representatives stood with PDA at our Advisory Board event Tuesday night. They need our help to get America out of Iraq. Let's deliver that help. Use our online tools to contact your Representative now. Tell him or her to support the discharge petition on H J Res 55, and make sure all your friends and family do the same. This is the beginning of the end of the Iraq Occupation.



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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:29 PM
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2. i asked McGovern to announce for Senate
i wanted him to run for Kerry's seat in 2008 ...

not sure he'll do it ...

McGovern is about as good as we have ...
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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:01 PM
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3. what about president???
hmmmmm
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