When we withdraw from Iraq, and a terror attack occurs...

[RethugAssKicker]

The rethugs are going to say "I told you so". That if we had stayed the course "this" wouldn't have happened.

I am certainly for withdrawing, but how do we combat this when/if it happens?

[400Years]

1. I doubt if they will withdraw any time soon

but it is useful to beat them over the head with the issue all the way to the 2006 elections.

By then, the entire, non-idiot portion, of the country will be demanding withdraw.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. 72% in MSNBC say leave now

check out the thread about it a few threads below this one on Latest.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. We ask where Homeland Security was

because the point is that they are supposed to protect us from terror attacks, not fighting in a foreign land.

[RethugAssKicker]

6. They'll say they did, ..that they kept them occupied in Iraq...

and our forced withdrawal enboldened the terrorists...

And if we don't have another terror attack before the withdrawal, they will feel vindicated!

[azmouse]

3. We would be much safer right now

if all those billions of dollars wasted on this immoral war had been spent here in America protecting our ports and borders.

[BOSSHOG]

4. Because of our presence in Iraq now

terrorists are stronger and more intense. Thanks to conservatives in this country who have enabled bush to carry forth with a disastrous policy, terrorists hate us even more. If there is a terrorist attack as you lay out it will be because conservatives and bush did nothing to protect us. Its really quite simple. He isn't protecting us with troops in Iraq and he won't be protecting us if he withdraws them, WITHOUT accepting a different approach to fighting terrorism. And, terrorists have made attacks in other countries around the world, while we have 150k troops in iraq for no apparent reason.

[Marr]

7. They'll say the same thing if we stay IN Iraq and are attacked here.

"See? We told you so! See how your dissent has emboldened the terrorists?"

You've got to just accept that they're a bunch of lying con men. I don't give half a shit what they say.

[Democrats_win]

8. Good arguments! Instead fix the underlying problem: MSM & propaganda

We´re now learning about Rerdon Media´s role in this propaganda. If we don´t fix this, Jesus Christ won´t be able to argue the point. Make it a law that the government can´t lie or contract with anyone to lie to the American people. Reinstitute fairness in media regulations and break-up the media conglomerates.

Unless the American people get the truth, our nation will not survive.

[malmapus]

9. That goes the same for if we stay there

and get attacked.

No matter what if the US is attacked again it will be an "I told you so."

But that also goes in their direction, for I told them if we do go into Iraq and stay there we won't be making many friends in the world, same if we pull out and are attacked. We invited a whole lotta people to hate our country.

[Catrina]

10. We pre-empt it by saying whether we go or stay

this war has caused so much hatred for the US that we can be certain of a terrorist attack on this country.

Because George Bush lied and went to war in the wrong country, started a war then lost it, built a training camp for Al Queda there where they never were before, and that is why this country is now in more danger than it ever was before.

Do it now, because it's true anyway, and they have inflamed the ME, and given them exactly the reason they needed to recruit more radical terrorists.

[Kikosexy2]

11. Whether we stay ...

or not...another attack on U.S. soil is likely...Shrub and the Neocon nutcases opened up a Pandora's box when they invaded Iraq--so we can't sit here and say we didn't see this (an attack) coming.

[Toots]

12. We say 'See Iraq created Terrorists'

We went two hundred years without terrorist attacks and since Republicans took control they keep occurring. Go figure.....Remember 9-11 took place under a Republican Administration. Republicans absolutely love to antaganize people. That is how Limbaugh, Hannity, and Savage and their ilk make a living..

[chat_noir]

13. Blame Bush

Members of the 9/11 Commission made news this week by including serious criticisms of the Bush Administration in their latest "progress report." At a public forum on November 14, former 9/11 Commissioners chastised the White House for failing to implement recommendations aimed at preventing another terrorist attack, made some 16 months ago in the 9/11 Commission Report. They also pointed to new problems -- including the mistreatment of detainees, which they say might aid in terrorist recruitment. “The flames of extremism undoubtedly burn more brightly when we are the ones who deliver the gasoline,” said Commission member Richard Ben-Veniste.

...

The list of the Commission’s failings goes on and on, and leads right up to the door of the White House. Reading between the lines of the 9/11 Commission Report, it is clear that even many Commissioners and staff members more than suspected that the Vice President violated the Constitution by seizing command on 9/11, issuing unauthorized orders to shoot down planes (including a misidentified medevac helicopter). But the Commission failed to press the point—and indeed, agreed to have an informal, unrecorded meeting with Bush and Cheney, rather than demanding on-the-record testimony.

Likewise, Commissioners were remarkably soft on Donald Rumsfeld. Second only to the President in the military chain of command, Rumsfeld was AWOL while the nation was under attack. Apparently, he spent a good deal of time wandering around the Pentagon parking lot, but the Commission dutifully relayed his statement that he was “gaining situational awareness.” Rumsfeld also testified that attacks on American soil by commercial aircraft were a “law enforcement matter,” and no business of the Department of Defense; this outrageous statement passed by the Commission with only a brief demur.

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/05/11/con05439.html

[mtnester]

14. It will be Clinton's fault.....n/t

[Canuckistanian]

15. Tell them the job in Afghanistan wasn't finished

The warlords are back in power, the Taliban is making a resurgence and the puppet government is useless.

An excellent training ground for extremists.

[grytpype]

16. This is a super important point.

Because that is what is going to happen, and the Murthas are playing right into it.

Withdrawal might be the least-bad option right now, but the Dems should not be calling for it. We should be demanding victory.

Because Bush is going to have to withdraw in defeat from Iraq, but he won't do it until he is forced to by circumstances within Iraq. He will then blame the Dems, who called for the withdrawal. And if a terrorist attack follows, there is a big problem for the Dems, who will get blamed.