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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:31 AM
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They keep running this story about a Oklahoma Pastor getting punched....
The problem is everytime I look at the video it does look like the guy attemding the service didnt actually hit him, to me it looked like a very good chorographed stunt, if the guy did make contact from the angle of the punch he would have hit the RIGHT not the LEFT eye.

Something just doesnt add up I think it was a fake, do we know if the guy throwing the punch was ever charged and also can someone post the video so we can all have a look again?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:35 AM
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1. i feel the same way..and no one asked the guy ??why?? he hit him??
i keep thinking it doesn't add up..no one has said ..why he hit him..did no one question the guy??

fly
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:36 AM
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2. It was probably some deranged guy
A lot of severely mentally ill people are drawn to revivals. They may have "mixed emotions" about religion, and attacks are not unknown.

I'm not a fan of tent-revival fundamentalism, but this doesn't have the look of an insidious plot by any means.

On the other hand, you can't be faulted for having suspcions. They fundies have gotten very devious.

--p!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 10:48 AM
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4. That was my thought.
I wonder if we're going to get any background on the attacker?
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:34 PM
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5. If no charges were filed and the guy remains unidenified....
It makes me even more suspicious, if someone can find a high quality video I'd like to take another look at it because when the media shows the video its so quick and they move onto another story.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:43 PM
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6. The Flash-based player in this page
will let you scroll backward and replay the punch segment as often as you'd like:

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_327120803.html
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 02:51 PM
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13. Thank You n/t
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 02:36 AM
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3. I thought the same thing....
It looked like a glancing hit well below the eye on the right, but the pastor put his hand up to his left eye right away. The second time the guy "hit" him, it was on the left eye, but it wasn't a direct hit either.
It didn't add up to me either. It definitely looked like a "Hollywood" stunt to me also.
Very odd story with few details.
:shrug:
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:44 PM
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7. How much airplay will this guy get when he "repents" & joins the church?
n/t
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:50 PM
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8. The ONLY reason this is getting played is the video.
Once again, if there were no video there would be no story.

This is the very basic purpose of TV news. Gather video, then create a story around it. Play it over and over, and allow it to consume broadcast time. It's how they get away with not presenting real news.
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BoomerSoonerOKU Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 12:58 PM
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9. Why would they
stage a stunt like this? I don't really see any type of motivation for it. "Come to our revivals, there's plenty of nutbars to go around?"

Also, you did see the shiner he's sporting, right?

The man has been arrested. The pastor visited him in jail and the attacker gave no explanation for the attack or an apology. He also has previous convictions of burglary and domestic violence I believe.

Now Pastor Dougherty is a blowhard imo, but to say this was staged doesn't add up.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:44 PM
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12. Re: Also, you did see the shiner he's sporting, right?
Yes I did but it doesnt look like the eye he was hit in.

The man has been arrested. The pastor visited him in jail and the attacker gave no explanation for the attack or an apology. He also has previous convictions of burglary and domestic violence I believe.


The only news I get here is on the local channels so they didnt mention what happened afterwards I just assumed he disappeared into thin air BTW does he have a name?

I don't really see any type of motivation for it. "Come to our revivals, there's plenty of nutbars to go around?"


Not exactly I was thinking he did it because he wanted more fame which = more parishners and more money, the whole video still doesnt look right to me but since an arrest was made, I guess it wasnt a stunt unless he paid some guy with an existing criminal record to do this, if its true he'll probably spill the beans if he receives a long sentence.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:25 PM
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10. The puncher looked like a pissed off husband to me
I have seen a couple my self.

Joking of course.

Don
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 01:38 PM
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11. WWF
The best part is how the lady keeps playing the piano and singing.

nuts.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 05:47 PM
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14. There was mention that he punched another minister 14 years ago. No link.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:15 PM
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15. He showed admirable restraint for 14 years. n/t
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 06:21 PM
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16. A serial minister puncher?
Sounds like a Monty Python sketch.

"Mum, Dad, there's a dead bishop on the landing..."
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 11:26 PM
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18. ROFL!
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 07:36 PM
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17. I wondered
why the pastor didn't wipe the blood from his face. It was running down his cheek. He just kept on preaching. Seemed strange to me.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-24-05 11:29 PM
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19. Back... and to the left
Back... and to the left, back... and to the left
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