PLEASE PLEASE READ !! THE CASE FOR A NATIONAL RECALL ELECTION

[PennyMan]

Why Wait Three Years for Our Next President?
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NEW YORK--By August 2003 California Governor
Gray Davis' approval rating had plunged to 22 percent.
Two months later, he lost a special recall election.

Now it's George W. Bush's turn to take a drubbing.
The latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll finds that only 37 percent of Americans think he's doing a good job,
a record low for him and a dangerous drop below the historical benchmark of 40 percent.


Here Is The Link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucru/20051201/cm_ucru/thecaseforanationalrecallelection;_ylt=A86.I0GeEI9DSjEBRD_9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA

[Sir_Snooze]

1. He should be impeached and sent to Guantanimo

...and we should take charge again. It'll save your derelict, tired nation from certain economic doom.

[mb7588a]

20. welcome to DU, and nice sign, Sirsnoozy! nt

[rodeodance]

2. 4.2 stars (177 votes)

Average (177 votes)
4.2 stars

[SammyBlue]

3. I believe we should have a national recall vote

or a national vote of no confidence like most Parliamentary systems have.

I would support a national recall vote.

[ISUGRADIA]

4. I still like the process of impeachment and conviction

If we had a recall in place even odds that Clinton would have been out in 1994.

[Dr.Phool]

5. No constitutional provision for a recall. Only

Impeachment and that other thing.

[BlueEyedSon]

9. yup, constitutional impossibility

[Peace Patriot]

6. Damn straight! Let's do it!

If the unelected, illegitimate Bush Cabal can engineer recalls of Calif. Governor Gray Davis, who was only trying to recover Bush donor Enron's $9 billion theft, and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who was only trying to level the playing field a bit in Venezuela--both elected by the people, in fair and square elections, Chavez by a big majority (several times)--then we, the people, should be able to do the same to any fascist cabal that seizes our government and proceeds to destroy our country.

I'm all for it, with one caveat. It MUST be accompanied by two other amendments, one to remove private money from political campaigns forevermore, and another to outlaw private corporate vendors and all election machine secrecy in our election systems.

Only then would we be safe from billionaire rightwingnuts who would immediately PURCHASE a recall of any sitting Democratic president, and call in his buds at Diebold and ES&S to twiddle their secret vote tabulation programming code.

[Stand and Fight]

7. Don't think this is possible, but I can dream! 5th Recommendation!

Here's the fifth vote for the greatest.

[stillcool]

8. Priceless....

"Lame duck" doesn't cut it. Unless Bush resigns, the world's sole superpower faces the dismal prospect of three long years under a dead duck president. Who will extract us from two losing wars? How will we pay off the $8 trillion national debt he ran up? America needs a strong president yesterday.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. I don't think we can have a recall presidential election. He has to be

IMPEACHED...PLEASE G-D! IF he can be recalled, I"M THERE! I'll do whatever it takes to get the job done. I'll work my behind off. What a wonderful thought it is to not have that bastard around for 3 more years. HEAVEN.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. Emotionally I agree. As a Law I completely don't.

Looking at it from the context of what we know right now of course I wish the shrub could be kicked out under any circumstance. But providing a clause that would allow recall elections could be really dangerous. It leaves the presidency open to too much fickleness. What if a Pres has a bad month, or makes one mistake that gets people riled up. The way the rules are now, within a month or two he might completely rebound back up to being popular. But with a recall clause, all it would take is one severe enough dip no matter how temporary, for everybody to rush out impulsively to petition for a recall.

I'm sorry, but I don't want the Presidency run that way. I think the impeachment process is fine, but we just have to make sure we keep working to bring accountability, honor and integrity back to congress. I don't think the problem is the impeachment clause, I think it is the refusal of congress to uphold their duty.

[stevedeshazer]

12. I don't want him recalled

I want him impeached, tried by the Senate, and removed from office. Cheney, too.

Then let the criminal proceedings begin. Oh yeah, he'd pardon himself and his cronies.

[huskerlaw]

13. yeah, one problem

California law allows recall elections, federal law doesn't.

Sorry kids, not gonna happen.

[melody]

14. We might have a ceremonial recall. It would be as real as election 2004

[tinrobot]

15. The recall election is in 2006

If we win the House and Senate, we can impeach.

[sandnsea]

16. permanent paid vacation

Just go back to the ranch George. $1.2 million is a cheap job buy-out. Take Cheney with you. Congress will call you when they need your signature on something.

[Justice Is Comin]

17. Why can't we package him up in a steel cage,

put a big Christmas bow on it, and shove him out the back of a C-130 over an Al Qida camp for a Christmas present? Our compliments.

[dfgrbac]

18. The recall is potentially available!

The recall for any elected official is included in the National Initiative for Democracy.

The problem we Americans have is that we forget that we, the people, are sovereign, not our elected representitives. Once we enact the national Initiative, we can recall anyone elected for government - local, state, or national.

[Garbo 2004]

21. Really? And the Congress, Fed, State gov'ts and the Supremes are going

to just say, oh OK? No. It has no binding legal authority that will be recognized by Congress or the Court.

From the NID site:

Phase 2
The second phase is an electoral campaign, beginning in the fourth quarter of 2002, to secure the affirmative votes of more than 50 million registered American voters in order to fulfill the self-enactment provision of the Amendment-- a provision patterned after the self-enacting Article VII of the Constitution.

The election will be conducted by the nonprofit corporation Philadelphia II. The election was formally announced in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on September 17, 2002 and will begin in Portland, Maine in October, 2002, with voting being accomplished using paper ballots and the Internet.

After the People have voted and the self-enacting clause of the Amendment is satisfied, the President of Philadelphia II will certify the enactment of the Democracy Amendment to the Constitution of the United States and the enactment of the Democracy Act adding to the Federal Code, and will so advise the federal and state governments. http://ni4d.us/actionplan.htm

Nice but they still have no legal authority to amend the Constitution and Federal law. And there is no legal mechanism by which the Congress, courts and states must recognize any proclaimed results by this outfit.

[Cleita]

19. So first they have to pass an ammendment to effect a

recall proposition. Good luck on that with this Congress. However, we should look at this more carefully for the future. I am all for any legislation that puts more power in the hands of the people. As it is we are standing by ringing our hands powerless to do anything about this trainwreck in our government that is happening.

[jsamuel]

22. HEHE! Look at this part, hehe.

"But even Clinton never regained his former appeal. His hand-picked successor, vice president Al Gore, won the 2000 election by such a narrow margin that Republicans were able to steal it away."