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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:02 PM
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Question Answered: "before the 2004 pres. election" - NYT held spy story
NYT Published Wiretap Story Because of a Reporter's New Book

"The initial Times statements did not say that the paper's internal debate began before the Nov. 2, 2004, presidential election — in which Iraq and national security questions loomed large — or make any reference to Risen's book, due out Jan. 16."

:mad:

The NYT held this damaging story because one candidate in the election asked them not to tell the american people he was breaking the law and they didn't tell us. Meanwhile we had to listen to the word "flip-flop" and "swiftboat" 4,000,000 times. What a tragedy of the press this has become...
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:05 PM
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1. This would make them, whats the word? COMPLICIT!
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:07 PM
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2. Exactly. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:12 PM
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5. They also refused to print the Bush was wired for debates story
even knowing that the proof was there.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:58 PM
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11. at least
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:07 PM
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3. Bingo!
And yes, it would make them complicit in both the subversion of the Constitution AND in a subversion of a Federal Election.

Now can we say "I told you so"?

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:10 PM
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4. Most DC media also knew Rove outed Plame and chose to NOT tell the voters
even while the WH publicly stated Rove's innocence for the entire year before the election.

Media knew, but wouldn't inform the American people.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:16 PM
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6. Let's also remember they FAILED to cover our Ohio Election story as well!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:20 PM
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7. Because it was a "conspiracy theory"
Looks like we have some pretty spot on theorists around here.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:20 PM
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8. WTF??!! How much more information does the American public
need??

This president is illegitimate and so is his government. They have lied about everything. How can anyone trust these people??
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:22 PM
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9. They also withheld story of Bush's 'electronic helper' in debates
they thought publishing that would be 'too controversial' right before the election...

:mad:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 03:31 PM
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10. Articles of Impeachment... A First Draft
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 04:01 PM by ddeclue
Everyone:

Please send the below to your Congressmen and Senators (and newspapers) and ask them if they could please take the time to fill in the blanks.

Write your Congressman here:
http://www.house.gov/writerep /

Look up and write your Senators here:
http://www.senate.gov /

It is surprising how little editing was required to go from the original Richard Nixon Articles of Impeachment to the below. It only took about 10 minutes.

http://watergate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles ....

Doug De Clue
Orlando, FL

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Articles of Impeachment Adopted by the Committee on the Judiciary

Date:______________

Article 1
Article 2
Article 3

RESOLVED, That George W. Bush, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanours, and that the following articles of impeachment to be exhibited to the Senate:

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT EXHIBITED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE NAME OF ITSELF AND OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AGAINST GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, IN MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF ITS IMPEACHMENT AGAINST HIM FOR HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANOURS.

Article 1

In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his consitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, in that:

On or about December 17, 2005, and prior thereto, agents of the National Security Agency on orders of George W. Bush committed unlawful warrentless wiretaps against thousands of American citizens inside the United States in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (USC Title 50 Chapter 36 Subchapter 1), and in engaged in a conspiracy with him to commit an offense against the United States in violation of USC TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 19 § 371. Prior thereto, George W. Bush, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his close subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede, and obstruct the investigation of such illegal activities; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities in violation of USC TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 73 § 1512 paragraph (b).

The means used to implement this course of conduct or plan included one or more of the following: issuing Executive Orders contrary to United States Code, making false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States; withholding relevant and material evidence or information from lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States; approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counselling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings; interfering or endeavouring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Congressional Committees; endeavouring to misuse the National Security Agency, an agency of the United States; and making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements.

In all of this, George W. Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore George W. Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.

Adopted ____ to ____ by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives, at __________________________________, in Room ______ of the _____________ Office Building, Washington D.C.

Article 2

Using the powers of the office of President of the United States, George W. Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has repeatedly engaged in conduct violating the constitutional rights of citizens, impairing the due and proper administration of justice and the conduct of lawful inquiries, or contravening the laws governing agencies of the executive branch and the purposed of these agencies.

This conduct has included one or more of the following:

He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, endeavoured to obtain from the National Security Agency, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, the contents of private phone calls for purposes not authorized by law, and to cause, in violation of the constitutional rights of citizens, criminal investigations to be intitiated or conducted in a discriminatory manner.

He misused the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the National Security Agency and other executive personnel, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, by directing or authorizing such agencies or personnel to conduct or continue electronic surveillance or other investigations for purposes not authorized by law, or any lawful function of his office; he did direct, authorize, or permit the use of information obtained thereby; and he did direct the concealment of certain records made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency of electronic surveillance.

He has, acting personally and through his subordinates and agents, in violation or disregard of the constitutional rights of citizens, authorized and permitted to be maintained a secret investigative unit within the offices of the Department of Defense, which unlawfully utilized the resources of the government, and engaged in covert and unlawful activities to unlawfully gather intelligence in violation of domestic prohibitions.

He has failed to take care that the laws were faithfully executed by failing to act when he knew or had reason to know that his close subordinates endeavoured to impede and frustrate lawful inquiries by duly constituted executive, judicial and legislative entities concerning the unlawful naming of a covert operative of the Central Intelligence Agency, and the cover-up thereof.

In disregard of the rule of law, he knowingly misused the executive power by interfering with agencies of the executive branch, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Department of Justice, the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency, in violation of his duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed.

In all of this, George W. Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore George W. Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.


Adopted ____ to ____ by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives.


Article 3

In his conduct of the office of President of the United States, George W. Bush, contrary to his oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has through the use of often-secret Justice Department findings, substituted his own judgment for that of the courts assuming to himself functions and judgments necessary to the proper exercise of the judicial power vested by the Article III of the Constitution in the Supreme Court and the lower Courts established by Congress.

In all of this, George W. Bush has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice, and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, George W. Bush, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.

Adopted ____ to ____ by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:30 PM
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12. kicking your thread w all the anger I feel inside n/t
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:48 PM
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13. Boy, that NY Times sure is an effective mouthpiece of the left
That damn liberal media.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:43 PM
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14. That's the real rub, isn't it? They control the media, and still use it
to blame the left whenever they feel like it.
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