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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:45 AM
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Chris Matthews article. MUST READ.
Totally amazing, how idiotic and two faced some people can be:

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10419899&BRD=1712&PAG=461&dept_id=24362&rfi=8
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:48 AM
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1. Oh my, he's moved to print now???????
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 04:54 AM by E_Zapata
Do I have to read it......??? Okay.....back in a sec./

Oh puke.....after he asserts the war was a sham, and that Cheney was behind it all, he says:

He said Bush had a "King Arthur moment" when he stood on the rubble of the World Trade Center with a bullhorn and pledged that "'the people who knocked these buildings down are going to hear from all of us.' He pulled the sword out of the stone."
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:29 AM
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6. Actually, he admitted he was a lousy writer.
That's why he gave up his column in the San Francisco Chronicle. I'd have to agree with him on his personal assessment.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:51 AM
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2. he isn't being two-faced......
He's still doing his job for God, Bush and Country (repuke country, that is).

the LAST thing he wants a debate to be about is what hits American voters right in their hearts: economy, health care, education. Oh gee.......aren't those ALL democratic platform mainstays?

He writes:

"He predicted that if such a debate happens, it will be about Iraq.

"The 2004 campaign will be and should be fought on the issue of the war," Matthews suggested, noting, "presidential politics are driven by foreign policy failures."

******* oh yeah......Chris is all about trying to frame a debate where bush can tell us all about the terra-ists and the evil doers.....and 9/11...and all that schlock.

oooooo, maybe Chris can be the moderator!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:31 AM
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7. Matthews is pushing is own agenda.
Presidential politics have also been pushed by domestic economy problems. Bush has both.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:52 AM
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3. Cheney's the fall guy, and he likes Bush.
I give him credit for highlighting Bush's bumpkinhood, but he still likes the guy. 'Arthurian moment'???? Pathetic.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 04:55 AM
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4. This makes no sense.....
First he said that the election will be about Iraq.....then he sais he prefers the candidate that has no foreign policy experience....
This is a professional mediawhore talking who has already been given his marching orders...push Dean, so that we can win.

"The 2004 campaign will be and should be fought on the issue of the war," Matthews suggested, noting, "presidential politics are driven by foreign policy failures."

To back up that statement, Matthews pointed to President Harry Truman deciding against running for another term in 1952 because he was "bogged down" in the Korean War, and Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower, the general who helped beat the Nazis in World War II winning that election on the promise "I will go to Korea." President Lyndon B. Johnson similarly dropped out of his final campaign, he noted, because of the Vietnam War. And Jimmy Carter, the president Matthews worked for as a speechwriter, lost his bid for a second term because of the Iran hostage crisis.

Matthews acknowledged that his personal favorite in the race is Howard Dean, the former Vermont governor who many see as the Democratic front-runner.

"He came out of Vermont, a small state, with no foreign policy experience and with sheer guts he believed in one big idea and that big idea was: 'It was wrong to go around to the other side of the world to fight a war.'"
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 05:01 AM
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5. Here's another take on his talk:
Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 05:03 AM by roguevalley
"In a speech to university students, MSNBC host Chris Matthews characterized President Bush as a shallow-thinking, unlearned man who when confronted by aides with the decision about going to war with Iraq was given something to think about for the first time in his life."

Also:

"Sources tell WND that management at MSNBC are becoming increasingly perturbed at Matthews for his outspoken criticism of Bush."

Go here: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35378
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 08:40 AM
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8. "The King Arthur moment"
That's the time when Bush went to ground zero and put his arm around the fireman. Amazing how Matthews spins this one photo opportunity to mythological proportions. How sad that Americans would fall for it.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 09:14 AM
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9. E-mail to Tweety and THE LIST about Post #5's Link
(composite of my posts in yesterday's thread: )

Cris MATTHEWS continues his shell game of living off of his long past resume as a Democrat while cashing in on shilling for wingnuts on cable t.v.

Speaking to college audiences, which are stereotypically supposed to be more "Liberal", he almost SOUNDS like an old Lib criticizing Shrub and almost SOUNDS like he's endorsing a Dem candidate, but lookee here:

1) MATTHEWS "characterized President Bush as a shallow-thinking, unlearned man..." Yet, Shrub has been that way all his life and was easily seen to be that way throughout Campaign 2000 by anybody including MATTHEWS. But this did not stop MATTHEWS from being a Shrub partisan operative for 5 hours per week throughout Campaign 2000 on cable t.v., from ridiculing and pommeling the conversely DEEP-thinking, LEARNED man (GORE) that entire time, and then voting for Shrub as MATTHEWS has said he did.

2) "...when (Shrub was) confronted by aides with the decision about going to war..." This is pure hockey puck. MATTHEWS here is continuing the wingnut shell game of absolving Shrub of all responsibility. The elephant in the room all the media continues to try not to see is that Shrub WANTED the Iraq attack from the day Poppy lost, he gravitated to the people who also wanted that, and he gave out the absentee-CEO message "This is what I want; YOU do the details to get it done."

3) As for MATTHEWS's supposedly "favoring" (not "supporting") DEAN--------hockey puck. We know MATTHEWS communicates with ROVE. ROVE told us ahead of 2002 what the winning campaign strategy would be (manly, macho warlike stuff) and we didn't believe ROVE. ROVE has told us he would love to have DEAN to campaign against, and we don't believe it. (No, this is not letting ROVE decide for us who to run or who to pick INSTEAD OF.)

4) But for comic relief, consider that this article says MSRNC is "perturbed" about MATTHEWS's supposed "outspoken criticism" of Shrub. In this same speech being reported on, MATTHEWS compares Shrub to King Arthur. Over the past two years MATTHEWS has tried comparing Shrub to CHURCHILL, JFK (Shrub, "our YOUNG pResident"), FDR/LINCOLN ("a wartime pResident")---all incredible comparisons, and now King Arthur fer-goodness-SAKES! And MSRNC is worried about MATTHEWS being CRITICAL of Shrub????pulleeeze.

Prediction, with no astrology needed: MATTHEWS will pump up Shrub and rag on the Dem nominee throughout Campaign '04 and will then vote for Shrub------AGAIN. MATTHEWS needs to lay to rest his PAST life as a Democrat and officially take the Republican label.

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35378
" In a speech to university students, MSNBC host Chris Matthews characterized President Bush as a shallow-thinking, unlearned man who when confronted by aides with the decision about going to war with Iraq was given something to think about for the first time in his life. ....
Sources tell WND that management at MSNBC are becoming increasingly perturbed at Matthews for his outspoken criticism of Bush.

The commentator acknowledged the president has some "clear strengths" and is the favorite in next year's election.

Bush had a "King Arthur moment," he said, in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks when he stood on the rubble of the World Trade Center and declared into a bullhorn "'the people who knocked these buildings down are going to hear from all of us.' He pulled the sword out of the stone."

Matthews disclosed he favors former Vermont governor Howard Dean for president in 2004, according to the Rhode Island daily.

"He came out of Vermont, a small state, with no foreign policy experience and with sheer guts he believed in one big idea and that big idea was: 'It was wrong to go around to the other side of the world to fight a war.'" Matthews said. " ....

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-03 10:17 AM
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10.  Bush has some "clear strengths" and Matthews says
"clear strengths?" Mattews, DO tell.......what the hell are they?
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