Blue_Roses
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Sun Nov-02-03 01:02 PM
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Poll question: Which is the best way to beat Bush in '4? |
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I have been angry since Bush beat Ann Richards for govenor. It was a dirty race and I don't think she did near enough to put him in place. However, NOTHING compares to the reckless way he is useing his position to promote his agenda with war and with his agenda to pad the rich fat cats. It's sickening, however, as much as I could bash his policies, and agenda till the day is gone, I want to hear POSITIVE things from our candidates on how to turn this around for us and show how they will be implemented. That's what we'll be looking for when we win--a new agenda. I've heard snippets here and there, but I want more.
Thoughts, suggestions?
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Sun Nov-02-03 01:03 PM
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Quit attacking one another...
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Sun Nov-02-03 01:04 PM
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Not an either/or question
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Sun Nov-02-03 01:17 PM
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3. It's the media, stupid. |
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What use are scandals against our opponents if the media reports it only once on page 6?
What use is a good agenda if the media expresses it with a negative tone and misrepresents the opposing agenda?
And, no, I do not mean to call you stupid.
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Blue_Roses
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Sun Nov-02-03 01:27 PM
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media plays a huge part with it's spin cycle running non-stop that makes it a continual up-hill battle.
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Sun Nov-02-03 01:23 PM
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With respect, I think that mudslinging will probably only hurt the democratic side, though it seems to help the republicans. Discussing the issues seems to only 'go over the heads' of people or be ignored by those who've convinced themselves that they are republicans.
I'd reccomend:
1. Voter turnout increases. Most right wing strategy this past decade seems to have been somehow aiding the disgust in politics and apathy in the general american public, therefore getting them NOT to vote. With fewer voters, the "Special Interests" they cater to have a great advantage. Finding ways to get more people to vote will lower this special interest dominance.
2. Dismantle the right wing propaganda machine. Almost daily I encounter people who've lost jobs and/or are fairly broke DESPITE going to school and working hard who think they are 'republicans' and heroicly opposing "DemonCat liberals" who doubtless wanna turn this country into a Communist state and at the same time do things in public that would make the Emporor Gaius Germanicus Ceaser blush. There is a barrage in media, tv shows, and ESPECIALLY the radio that begins and re-inforces this view.
I find the second to be more difficult, but most critical. Nowadays, TV networks openly refuse protest ads. Perhaps legal action is needed. Also there is "program placement". IMHO, there are lots of writers out there who would love a legal form of 'revenge' for having an economic gun pointed at their heads over a 'war on drugs' episode. Radio is another big part, because lots of people listen to talk radio all day, the music stations either showing 'kid stuff' or the same paylist for a week on the 'oldies' station.
IMHO, anyways:-)
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Sun Nov-02-03 01:31 PM
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6. Welcome to DU! (and tv networks refusing to air ads is anti-american) |
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Screw the media. They are as fascist as the people running this joke of a country right now.
May 2004 turn things around or else I'm leaving. :-(
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:59 PM
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:03 PM
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8. Like a rented stepchild |
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And I have stepkids. But I've never rented any.
"Which is the best way to beat Bush in '4?"
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Blue_Roses
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Sun Nov-02-03 11:31 PM
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it too...'4 after I hit that post button.
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:09 PM
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9. About the first choice. |
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I don't believe that the American public has time to come to grips with the fact we have a true ciminal in the WH. There are still way too many independent voters out there who see chimpy as doing a good job. I don't think the public can hande the truth. It's so much easier to stay in one's comfort zone and not question the so called authority in DC.
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:14 PM
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10. We nominate The Undertaker |
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And his slogan will be "Lets bomb the arabs back to the stoneage"
well win by a landslide
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:17 PM
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11. As Tom Hartman said... |
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The way to beat a Bush is with a vision for the future. Show America the alternate future 4 years in the distance, and the votes will follow.
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:19 PM
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Quit asking easy question.
ABBeL :wow: (Anybody But Bush, even Lieberman) :wow:
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Sun Nov-02-03 11:38 PM
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to you and I, but I've heard repubs who think we are sitting on our asses waiting for the next big scandal to bring down bush and when it doesn't happen, they cheer, we mope, and so it is.
I heard Saffire speaking of how the Dems were hanging their heads when the new numbers came out on the economy the other day. He says we were depressed cause the economy looked like it was on the upswing. Also, Novack always seems to think we get "giddy" when something scandalous comes out--and they don't...?
I have to say I am guilty of that "giddiness" or whatever elation I feel when one of their scandals is exposed, but it's not so we will win ( although that is a plus). It's because we're right about the fraudulent administration.
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:22 PM
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13. Severely about the head and shoulders with a rolled up copy of |
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The Consitution of the United States of America. Rub his nose in the shit he has left in the Oval Office and toss his bad-puppy ass onto the lawn.
:evilgrin: dbt
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:42 PM
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14. Dem infighting needs to stop |
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Most Americans IMHO are so turned off by DEMS fighting each other that I am concerned they are not going to look at our candidates, if this idiocy keeps on. Most Americans are not political junkies like we are here at DU.
Repugs are probably loving the Dean brouhaha and the DEM attacks on one of their own.This is sad, and if we really want to win, needs to stop. I am glad that Clark kept his campaign promise not to negative btw.
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:51 PM
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15. That is likely to help when he gets teh nom |
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The fact that his campaign has focused without exception on BUSH and NOT on sinking the other 8 candidates is probably going to help with his image in that he is "above politicking".
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Sun Nov-02-03 07:32 PM
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17. Most Americans don't even know who the candidates are, much |
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less what any of them have said about each other. After all, Lieberman is polling well due to name recognition/
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