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Sun Nov-02-03 04:44 PM
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Is Jeb Bush presidential material? |
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I don't know anything about him, being in the west. What about it, is he presidential material or is he an also-ran in terms of the presidency?
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:46 PM
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1. I am personally sick of the Bush empire |
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I'm equally sick of the Clinton Empire(shall Hillary run in 08).
Can we have a president of the people for crying out loud? I'm sick of these empires.
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:47 PM
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5. nothing the media likes like a good dynsaty nt |
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:57 PM
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11. Clinton empire? President of the people? What, sir, are you smoking? |
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:00 PM
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14. And will you share??? |
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Sheesh, that must be GOOD stuff, if you think the Clintons had a political dynasty...
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:59 PM
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12. I feel that you are right |
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This is the Democratic Party...not the Clinton Party or the Bush Party.
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:54 PM
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58. The Clinton Empire? Excuse me? Bill Clinton did a good job running |
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this country, TWICE elected, and his wife is doing a good job elected as Senator of the fine state of New York, but an EMPIRE? Not hardly.
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:46 PM
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2. As much as his brother. |
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The Bushes play the "moderate" game until they gain Power (not state power, but national). Then, their true colors come out - whether clueless Daddy, or fascist GWB. Jeb may be the smartest. That makes him the most dangerous. Presidential material? Yeah. If you want him to be the last freely elected president (unless his brother beats him to it in 2004).
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:47 PM
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3. I Think We're Good Until Caligula Bush |
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Then things might turn ugly.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:06 PM
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:26 AM
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that is one of the offspring of 'Savings & Loans' brother, Neil; yes, Caligula Bush.
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:47 PM
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4. He's not as dumb as his brother... |
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...but he's just as evil. He's a Bush, after all...
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:54 PM
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59. Jeb's Mistress, Cynthia Henderson, might have some tips on what a FINE |
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:48 PM
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6. Nope...and that's why.... |
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they want to make adjustments to the Constitution in order to allow Schwarzenegger to be prez... :eyes:
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:49 PM
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7. Can you see this face on Mt Rushmore?? |
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:52 PM
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Oh my, I never saw his picture before. He looks like a spoiled child, I'm not too worried about him.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:09 PM
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that is one helluva pic!
LOL...did someone just ell him there's no Santa?
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:21 PM
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24. Babs must have told him she really does love George more |
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:04 PM
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31. He look a bit like Nixon on that pic |
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"This president is not a crook!"
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Sun Nov-02-03 08:15 PM
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33. You mean Mt. Bushmore? |
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If they have their way, it'll be nothing but Bushes up there
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:53 PM
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9. Good grief I sure hope |
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he never get's control of the oval office...
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Sun Nov-02-03 04:57 PM
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He is no more of Presidential quality than his brother.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:00 PM
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You do know it was Jeb, not George, who was one of the Founders of the Project for New American Century. The pinhead was not fit for the duty so they sent little brother.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:00 PM
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15. Is George Bush presidential material? |
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:04 PM
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16. Well, let me count the ways. |
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They are running the state government against the Sunshine Laws. Things are done covertly, things we don't even know yet.
They just do pretty much what they want to do. If someone complains, or the legislature blocks him (and Glenda) they find a back door to accomplish the same thing.
The legislature crosses him now and then, but not really. They pretty much toe the line.
I have many articles I have saved, just to remind me of all the stuff we don't know is going on.
Only God knows the true state of our Florida pension plan.
I could go on but it is too tiring.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:05 PM
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Please, God...make them go away....please!
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:10 PM
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George's callousness and malevolence is tempered by his incompetence and lack of imagination. That won't be a problem for Jeb.
Jeb Bush will run for president; and when he wins, God help us all. (Yes, I said when.)
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:15 PM
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the world will not want to hear the name Bush anymore after this Iraq debaucle. I truly hope that his brother will be disgraced out of office by impeachment and that will end it for Bush's.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:17 PM
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Shrub is only the warmup for the REAL antichrist! :)
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:16 PM
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22. You really should take some time and read about his background |
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Here's a google search on Jeb Bush and Miguel Recarey, one of his former partners who pulled off the most horrendous Medicare swindle in U.S. history: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Jeb+Bush+Miguel+Recarey&btnG=Google+SearchHere's a google search on Jeb Bush and Armando Codina, another Cuban "exile" business partner in Miami": http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Jeb+Bush+Armando+Codina&btnG=Google+SearchIt will take an investment of some of your time to find out more about his history. There's no encapsulated form to explain it to you.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:26 PM
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Edited on Sun Nov-02-03 05:36 PM by bushwentawol
The problem is we've got to find a way to put things like this into easily digestable sound bites. Otherwise we could easily be looking at the gop nominee for president in '08.
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Mon Nov-03-03 12:22 PM
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49. He is scary and vindictive. |
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If he loses on an issue he will circumvent and do it anyway. He scares me to death. I don't think we know half of what he has done to our state. We may never know.
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Mon Nov-03-03 02:05 PM
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Scary and vindictive describe Jeb perfectly. He surrounds himself with yes men/women.
As bad as Junior is, I think Jeb would be even worse.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:28 PM
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26. Much more so than his brother |
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I'm very scared of jeb. He is much smarter, much more articulate (in Spanish and English), and much more extreme than his brother.
I don't think that he has the religious complex and I don't think he thinks he's god's chosen (which would be somewhat of an improvement), but he's just as confident that his way is the only right way. And, unfortunately, his way is philosophically very similar and just as bad as his brother.
There are a lot of personal issues that SHOULD make it difficult for him to run. All his kids are screw-ups, he's been cheating on his wife for years with an ex-playboy bunny on his staff (or so the rumors go), and he's done a lousy job as governor. But I don't know that those things will stop him. Similar things didn't stop his brother.
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:43 PM
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56. He has a mexican wife |
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That could help put California in play. *shudder*
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:46 PM
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presidential material
or even human material for that matter.
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Sun Nov-02-03 05:56 PM
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28. No bush is presidential timber. eom |
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:02 PM
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29. no one in that stinking inbred cesspool of a family |
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:03 PM
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30. Maybe we are lucky W won Texas |
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and became governor, otherwise Jeb would be president now and I believe that he would be even worse than W. Only because Jeb plays the game better and he is more personable.
I actually met Jeb when he was getting ready to run for governor and was going around the state to find out what the people of Florida wanted from their government. I happened to be in charge of a community redevelopment task force at the time and got invited to go with the group showing Jeb around town one day. He was tall, good looking and very pleasant. He was sincere and came across has a good listener who was very interested in what we were doing. He even gave me his business card and wanted me to email him about our activities. That's why he scares me more than W. I grew up on the streets of NY. I can usually sniff out the slimballs. If I didn't know who and what Jeb was/is, I would have thought he was a really nice guy.
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Sun Nov-02-03 06:05 PM
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32. Does it even make a f*ck with electronic vote stealing ? |
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having this asshole Jeb as gov'r of my state is a disaster. him as president, oh man. up the cornhole we all will take it.
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Sun Nov-02-03 08:46 PM
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But then again, the current Bush isn't either, so the point is moot there :P
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Sun Nov-02-03 08:53 PM
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He wants to see state buildings empty in Florida. Just think if he was president. Empty buldings all over the country.
He's just like his brother in that he sees the treasury as his personal piggy bank.
Need proof, find articles at www.stpetetimes.com about his deal with the Scripps Institute and his education cuts.
$310 million to pay employee and executive salaries (the biggest piece of corporate welfare i have ever seen) and benefits.
Educaton gets cut by $66 million while prisons get an emergency $66 million boost.
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Sun Nov-02-03 08:59 PM
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37. Bush dynasty extends beyond the family... |
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Collen Powell, Dick Chenny, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, John Ashcroft, Bill Frist, and Tom DeLay are just a few of the card carrying members.
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Sun Nov-02-03 09:02 PM
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38. It doesn't surprise me in the least |
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that you would find it necessary to ask.
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Sun Nov-02-03 09:20 PM
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39. Just from an environmental perspective, |
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Jebbie has done more damage to Florida than a 1000 hurricanes. I have about two pages of links to articles on the stuff he has pulled just in his first term. I'm an oceanographer here in Florida and he has gutted environmental protections, our deparment of environmental protection, eliminated growth management regs, and given passes to Florida's biggest polluters. I'd have to take off a year work to help campaign against him if he ran for president. There is no way I would inflict the entire nation with this asshole.:mad:
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Sun Nov-02-03 09:20 PM
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40. Well, he's a criminal...do you have a penchant for criminals in the |
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presidency? He committed voter fraud during the 2000 elections. He's best buds with every criminal boss in Florida. The man is as much of a sleeze as Dubya is. You can bet your ass he was also involved in 9-11...I believe Florida is still under Marshall Law declared a few days BEFORE 9-11.
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whether we think he is or not, he's running in 08
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Sun Nov-02-03 09:22 PM
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42. And he will be elected by the BFFE n/t |
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Sun Nov-02-03 09:42 PM
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43. His Mother Seems to Think So n/t |
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Sun Nov-02-03 09:43 PM
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44. no, but does it matter to the pukes? |
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he will be nominated anyway, he's a bush!
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:18 AM
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45. He will do as he is told. Yes for the GOP |
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:35 AM
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46. It doesn't matter if he is or not, he will run in 2008 |
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IF possible, he is more evil than his brother...
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:45 AM
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47. Jeb is a PNAC signatory, and can string a sentence together... |
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And therefore he is eminently qualified in the eyes of the right wing.
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Mon Nov-03-03 05:46 AM
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48. Is George Bush presidential material? |
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I mean, why are you asking this question?
In 2000 I thought Bush was just a sick joke that would go away. I never dreamed people would be dumb enough to vote for him.
But here we are, in 2003. Although I still think he is a joke, the fact remains that he is acting President.
So, why worry if Jeb is qualified? Bush wasn't, and he managed to cheat his way into the White House.
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Mon Nov-03-03 01:31 PM
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50. Jeb Bush isn't even Burger King material... |
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Will the horror of the Bush Family never end??
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Mon Nov-03-03 01:42 PM
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51. No but he is Imperial material |
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If the Busheviks are not stopped, he WILL be Emperor in 2008.
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Mon Nov-03-03 01:42 PM
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52. Nope! If this crowd lives long enough to make Reagan Mk. 3, it'll |
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be Schwarzeneggar, or some other moron that has yet to make a blip on the radar screen. Quayle was the first choice, but he didn't pan out. Dubya fit the bill.
I think stupidity and maleability are the crucial factors.
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Mon Nov-03-03 01:44 PM
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53. He's mean and he has a habit of "shooting his mouth off" |
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He would have to really change his ways in order to be viable.
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Mon Nov-03-03 06:47 PM
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"devious plans" on the class size and light rail amendments.
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Mon Nov-03-03 01:49 PM
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54. Jeb is Available is all that counts. |
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Repugs will back anyone who can get $$$ and backing from family of "sorry group".
I honestly believe this.
Were Hitler alive and proposing same policies and scare tactics of terrorists about to attack he would be backed all the way by Repugs in invasion of neighbor and effort to conquer the world and eliminate all jews(muslims). I believe it.
Repugs march in lock goosestep behind their leader no matter his policies. No matter his character. No matter his morals. No matter his history.
Repugs are lacking character. Independent thought. They are followers of destoyers. clarence swinney cwswinney@netzero.net
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Mon Nov-03-03 08:18 PM
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but this country will not elect George W Bush in 2000 (yes he won, let's get over it but not forget it) and 2004 and Jeb in 2008. Can't happen.
Afte that? I don't know how old he is but 2012 or 2016 he has got to be Reagan old by then.
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Mon Nov-03-03 08:28 PM
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on just how bad you want it to get.
Jebbie was a co-author of PNAC. He is big into privitization of government services. He is a staunch anti-unionist. He is strong in his opposition to affirmative action. He truly loves tax cuts to 'starve the beast'. If he could end public education, he would do it.
It is always good to remember that Jebbie was the "smart one" and W was the "charismatic one".
He is part of the 'brain trust' behind W's misadministration. Better yet he has less 'charisma'.
By logical extension, he must be the equivalent of a charismatic black hole.
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Mon Nov-03-03 08:35 PM
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62. George was first, but both he and Jeb will always be ... |
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Mon Nov-03-03 08:40 PM
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63. How could ANYONE with 1000+ posts on DU not know diddly squat about Jeb? |
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I mean it is really unbelievable. BTW, last time I checked, "west", doesn't include the moon! :wtf:
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:28 AM
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65. Presidential material! |
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He would make a nice sofa; or perhaps a little ottoman.
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:28 AM
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66. If George W. is considered Presidential material then |
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my dog is also Presidential material.
If Bush gets "elected" in 2004, you can bet that Jeb Bush will be the GOP frontrunner. Why do you think Jeb intervened in the feeding tube case?
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Tue Nov-04-03 08:29 AM
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67. Jeb is the most loathsome of the Bushes. |
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