Selective Service Registration

[travisleit01]

I am going to a community college next semester, I won't be 18 until March 19th of next year, but the school is saying I need to register with the SS b/c their policy requires that if you're 17 and 9 mos. before the term begins you must register. Does this sound right, and what are the consequences of it? I don't think there's going to be a draft, but with Bush Co. you never know - and I sure don't want to be signing up early to go off and fight his war for oil. What should I do?

[jiacinto]

1. You have to sign up for it

And no, it's not the draft. It's a normal thing that everyone has to do. If you don't you become ineligible for financial aid.

[travisleit01]

4. I know...

But I always thought you had to do so when you're 18. My license expires then, and I have to go to the post office - so I thought that's when you do it. Plus - the University I'm going to now never said anything about it.

[jiacinto]

5. Don't be alarmed

It's just a standard form that everyone has to fill out.

[travisleit01]

6. OK, thanks.

I guess I still don't understand why I have to do it 3 months early, and why I didn't run into this at the school I'm going to now (and I am getting federal fin. aid).

[Bandit]

21. Just think! After you get your draft card you will have something to burn.

Burn your card in protest. I know many who did just that. I feel it helped save thousands of lives by the publicity of such acts of conscience. It helped turn America around and get our boys out of Viet Nam.

[JHB]

9. Well, don't be TOO alarmed at any rate...

...as there currently is no draft, and if a new one starts (thanks to His Squandership's abuse of the reserves), by the time they get it going you'll probably be past the first "call up" age bracket, but you should be ready for just about anything in Shrub's America.

[liberalhistorian]

14. I really don't think Americans, particularly

younger Americans, will permit the draft to be reinstated. I think that would wake them the hell up and they'd scream from here to high heaven, because it would actually affect THEM and, therefore, would be important in their minds. But I really don't think Americans as a whole would put up with the reinstatement of the draft, not after thirty years without one. It'd be too politically risky.

[diamond14]

16. the DRAFT is coming...it's been discussed here in DC for months

America needs the troops...and there appears to be little opposition to shrub's perpetual war...few people STOOD UP for the recent anti-war protests, and those who did were TRASHED, even here at DU, verbally attacked, nasty and vicious...few stood up to stop them...

so it's become even clearer that bush* can get away with it, the young men are doing little objecting, that many Americans feel the DRAFT is a solution to discipline these young men, get them into training, teach them respect...

the DRAFT is openly being discussed here in OUR Nation's Capital, and has been since the war started....most conservatives are convinced that today's young men should do public service in the military...it's no secret...

[Colin Ex]

19. Old crazy people in DC

probably don't have livid screaming punker kids screaming at them often.

It would not be too hard to get a huge group of really, really pissed off kids in DC letting Congress know EXACTLY how they feel about a draft.

Plus, in the case of the draft being reinstated, I suspect that 70% or more of my generation would turn out to be gay. :-)

-C

[diamond14]

60. why didn't any show up for the DC-anti-war protests last weekend

there were few young draft age men...the only people objecting to the upcoming DRAFT were old Veterans missing legs/arms/eyes, and older Vietnam-era people...there were no significant groups 'of really pissed off kids in DC'...which is a prime reason that the DRAFT will move forward now...there seems to be little resistance...

in fact, here in DC, many with young draft age children still believe that the DRAFT will discipline their own 'screaming punker kids', and help them learn to fold their clothes, respect their elders, and learn a job skill...there really is little resistance...IMO, most parents will support the DRAFT entirely, just like they are supporting the war...not only do young men not vote, they don't object to one single thing that shrub is doing...

[Blue_Roses]

62. that would all change once they received that card

reality is: when it doesn't directly affect you --then you don't care. Reality can slap you hard too, especially when you AREN'T looking.

[tom_paine]

31. Imperial Amerikan Subjects' permission no longer required

Once Bunnypants* becomes Lame-Duck Fuhrer in 2004.

Not sure it's even necessary now.

[Bandit]

20. It's a normal thing that everyone has to do.

Do young women also have to sign up?

[SoCalDem]

2. There is no draft..(yet)

and if you plan to ever get a govt job or a loan or a driver's license, you must register..

[DBoon]

8. I was one of the last for Vietnam

Was supposed to register when I turned 18, but put it off "just because". They had stopped calling draftees up a couple years prior, but still required registration.

At the time it was no big deal. Was not required in order to enroll in college, get a job, driver's license, etc. And this was when there was a REAL war going on.

You kids need to understand how much of your personal liberty has vanished over the last 30 years.

[Chubbles]

3. Sounds right...

I had to register before I enrolled in college. Don't worry, you won't be called up.

[HereSince1628]

7. Don't be 100% sure conscription won't return

I agree that the US Military seems disinclined to want to use the draft, but there is really no way to know what crises are in the future.

I suspect the vast majority of the NG and Reserves serving in Iraq never thought they'd be serving one-year tours of duty overseas.

[Chubbles]

13. When's the last time you heard of a college kid

getting yanked out of school to fight?

He'll be fine- even if there is a draft. And there won't be.

[atreides1]

25. That Was Then, And This Is Now

I applied to serve on my regional draft board, and if I get selected, and the draft is reinstated, I can tell you that it's the college kids that I'll definitely be looking at.

Just because you're in college does not give you a free pass. That's what happened the last time, and look what we ended up with in this administration, a bunch of college exempt cowards.

Anyway if you make it back, there's always the GI Bill.

[ellie]

64. Agreed.

I signed up for my local draft board too, and I think that college kids should definitely go. It's only fair.

[Clark Can WIN]

27. So you admit it then?

Name: Henry Hawk aka chubbles?
Cartoon: Looney Toones

Employer: Warner Bros

Famous colleague(s): The Bush administration

[Blue_Roses]

63. I knew of some

and they never came home

[candy331]

10. My son who is 20

had to register at 18 so go ahead and get it over with, avoid the hassle.Recruiters from all branches of service hounded him weekly but he has no interest in military at all. All these schools have their own policies for finacial aid so if you need it you probably will have to register.

[newyawker99]

54. Hi Chubbles!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[diamond14]

11. if you object to WAR, then begin the complex documentation

necessary for a 'conscientious objector' status...this will be more difficult once the draft kicks in....

you can look up the requirements for a conscientious objector....many Veterans at the DC-anti-war-protests were actively assisting young men with the forms and requirements...they had booths...have you gone to any anti-war protests?...can you document your objections to the WAR?....are you a member of a church that believes 'thou shall NOT kill'....you must have documentation of your objections to war....have you joined groups opposing war?

will some of your elder repected anti-war activists sign up for your local draft board? will you ask them? have you told anyone of your support for the anti-war protests? those who slammed the returning DC-Protesters last week will always have a difficult time proving that they are anti-war....their nasty comments against the anti-war protesters will always show their true WAR stance...

[travisleit01]

12. Plenty of Documentation

I started an anti-war group at my Conservative HS, attended/organized many protests in Denver, even went to DC mid-March to lobby my reps and attend the Mar. 15th protest. I've also been quoted in several newspaper articles, so that's not really the problem.

I just didn't understand why I had to do this so early, no big deal really. Just wondering. But thanks for your help... I just saw the link to signing up to be on the local draft board, I will forward it to a few teachers who supported me in HS.

[Chubbles]

15. I say "don't waste your time" with CO status...

You WON'T be drafted.

You certainly will not be drafted out of college. When you graduate, get a job- and again, you WON'T be drafted.

It is almost impossible for a "regular" person to be granted CO status- so don't bother.

Enjoy college! Enjoy your youth and freedom and the world of learning. Try and forget about war for now and work on expanding the limits of your mind with science, art, mathematics, literature. College is awesome- don't waste a second of it by reducing it to a political excersize.

[Robb]

18. "reducing it to a political excersize"

Nice. :eyes: Anyhow, on the topic at hand:

I know of several people my age (mid 30s) who in fact did not register for the draft. Not registering is an illegal act, but depending on the institution does not prevent you from obtaining financial aid -- simply government financial aid.

One friend was a PACS (peace and conflict studies) major, came clean with his grad school interviewer, and was told "well, in some cases that's a mark in your favor." He was admitted, and received financial aid from (surprise) various social justice organizations.

Now, having said this is illegal, and pointing out my information is at least ten years old, make your own call.

[Clark Can WIN]

29. I signed up to serve on the draft board in our community

And if it goes that way, which I think it will, kids like you who are trying to dodge service with money or influence who are getting thrown on the first plane out.

Count on it.

[Clark Can WIN]

30. " Try and forget about war for now "

I see. It's not your ass......... so fuckem, right?

[AndyTiedye]

32. They'll Push the Draft Through Somehow

They won't want to do it until the 2004 elections are out of the way (one way or another), since it would become an issue in the elections. Perhaps not as much
as it should, since some Democrats have given them bipartisan cover on the
ludicrous assumption that a draft could be somehow made "fair".

They can't keep stop-lossing the reserves forever,
and they DO intend to be in Iraq and Afghanastan forever,
as well as invade more countries.
They will also need more troops to "maintain order' domestically.
PNAC needs a draft. They cannot implement their plans without it.

Getting people to join the military out of economic desperation becomes more difficult when people realize how open-ended a commitment they are making,
and how poorly we treat our troops when we are done with them.

If they had *any* intention of continuing with a volunteer military, they would
be pushing for increases in military pay and benefits, and nobody in Washington
would dare oppose such a request. Instead they are quietly cutting benefits
and treating our soldiers like dirt.

Of course the soldiers serving in the Middle East may not be inclined to vote
Republican after such treatment, but that does not matter. Arthur Andersen
is counting their votes!

[diamond14]

57. good web site to help those wishing to get 'conscientious objector'

status...it is a 'Christian' site...but it does contain all the important papers and guidelines, everything you need to know if you are registering for the DRAFT, or planning to apply for 'consciencious objector' status (so you won't need to KILL others)....many Catholics have already applied for conscientious objector....


http://www.peacehost.net/christianCO/

[raysr]

17. You don't think there'll be a draft?

How many people are joining the Nat'l Guard these days? Not many I bet. I wish I would have exercised some other options back in "the day"!.

[diamond14]

23. Molly Ivins: Watch what bush* does, not what he says"....

and that applies to the DRAFT....

there is no way that the pentagoons are going to give every young man a chance to get out...the whole PR spin is to keep all young men believing that they will not be drafted, that there is no draft planned, that they should just go about their business...move on citizen, nothing to see here...


the reality is that the DRAFT will hit hard and unexpectedly, in order to grab as many unsuspecting young men as possible in their net....that BIG SUCKING SOUND will start suddenly....


rummy (DOD briefing, January 07, 2003), speaking on the Vietnam DRAFT

".....they were sucked into the intake, trained for a bit, and they went out....and then they were GONE... "

[dreissig]

22. Another Failure of Feminism

The male-only draft is hugely discriminatory. Can you imagine the uproar if there were some female-only conscription? Or even an additional tax that they alone had to pay?

Feminists never addressed the draft. It's one of the issues they "forgot" about.

[smirkymonkey]

24. Failure?? Hardly...

Women don't start wars, we shouldn't have to fight them. Maintaining the war machine is not part of the feminist agenda. Period.

[prolesunited]

26. Frankly

I don't think women or MEN should be drafted.

Is there an additional tax men have to pay or is that just a strawman you threw in there for kicks? :shrug:

[dreissig]

28. Conscription is a Tax

Conscription is a tax in itself. Even the bother of registering for conscription is a tax that men pay. The registration form has boxes you check for different exemptions. One says: "I do not have to register for the draft because I am female."

Q.E.D.

[Clark Can WIN]

33. I am a feminist of sorts and I would support a

non-combat conscription for females in the interest of fairness. But if you think I'm going to go looking for one you're nuts.

[dreissig]

35. The 100% Tax

Being drafted and killed is the ultimate tax. 17,000 draftees paid that tax in Vietnam. None of them were women.

[ForrestGump]

37. I didn't know that the Vietnam conflict

was a gender-based one.

And if you're right about the draft being a sex-biased tax, why would the white-male power élite impose such a tax on their own gender? Some evolutionary-genetics ploy to ehance their own inclusive fitness by making posible polygynous matings with the women left behind? LBJ may have been a lecher, but I don't think that was his master plan.

[dreissig]

45. Gender-Based Policies

I might offer some speculations as to why the draft is male-only, but they're not relevant here. The topic is selective service, not gender politics in general. You are welcome to enlarge it, but I'm trying to stay within the thread as originally posted.

[prolesunited]

46. You're the one who threw

the thread off track here when you pointed to it as a "failure of feminism." Now that people are calling you out on that statement, you want to stick to the topic. Sure.

[dreissig]

48. Good Point

Yes, the male-only draft is indeed an issue that feminists have refused to address. Their silence is quite remarkable, wouldn't you agree? However, out of respect to the original poster, it's better to discuss this peripheral issue on another thread. I quite agree with you.

[prolesunited]

39. Women died in Vietnam as well

Perhaps they weren't drafted, but it is disingenuous to say women did not pay the ultimate price in Vietnam.

Military
U.S. Army
2nd Lt. Carol Ann Elizabeth Drazba ~~~~~~ 2nd Lt. Elizabeth Ann Jones
Lt. Drazba and Lt. Jones were assigned to the 3rd Field Hospital in Saigon. They died in a helicopter crash near Saigon, February 18, 1966. Drazba was from Dunmore, PA., Jones from Allendale, SC. Both were 22 years old.

Capt. Eleanor Grace Alexander ~~~~~~ 1st Lt. Hedwig Diane Orlowski
Capt. Alexander of Westwood, NJ and Lt. Orlowski of Detroit, MI died November 30, 1967. Alexander, stationed at the 85th Evac. and Orlowski, stationed at the 67th Evac., in Qui Nhon, had been sent to a hospital in Pleiku to help out during a push. With them when their plane crashed on the return trip to Qui Nhon were two other nurses, Jerome E. Olmstead of Clintonville, WI and Kenneth R. Shoemaker, Jr. of Owensboro, KY. Alexander was 27, Orlowski 23. Both were posthumously awarded Bronze Stars.

2nd Lt. Pamela Dorothy Donovan
Lt. Donovan, from Allston, MA, became seriously ill and died on July 8, 1968. She was assigned to the 85th Evac. in Qui Nhon. She was 26 years old.

1st Lt. Sharon Ann Lane
Lt. Lane died from shrapnel wounds when the 312th Evac. at Chu Lai was hit by rockets on June 8, 1969. From Canton, OH, she was a month short of her 26th birthday. She was posthumously awarded the Vietnamese Gallantry Cross with Palm and the Bronze Star for Heroism. In 1970, the recovery room at Fitzsimmons Army Hospital in Denver, where Lt. Lane had been assigned before going to Viet Nam, was dedicated in her honor. In 1973, Aultman Hospital in Canton, OH, where Lane had attended nursing school, erected a bronze statue of Lane. The names of 110 local servicemen killed in Vietnam are on the base of the statue.

Lt. Col. Annie Ruth Graham, Chief Nurse at 91st Evac. Hospital, 43d Med Group, 44th Medical Brigade, Tuy Hoa.
Lt. Col. Graham, from Efland, NC, suffered a stroke in August 1968 and was evacuated to Japan where she died four days later. A veteran of both World War II and Korea, she was 52.

U.S. Air Force
Capt. Mary Therese Klinker
Capt. Klinker, a flight nurse with the 10th Aeromedical Evacuation Squadron, Travis Air Force Base, temporarily assigned to Clark Air Base in the Philippines, was on the C-5A Galaxy which crashed on April 4 1975 outside Saigon while evacuating Vietnamese orphans. This is known as the Operation Babylift crash. From Lafayette, IN, she was 27. She was posthumously awarded the Airman's Medal for Heroism and the Meritorious Service Medal.
http://userpages.aug.com/captbarb/lives.html

Civilian

American Red Cross
Hannah Crews
Died in a jeep accident, Bien Hoa, 1969.

Virginia Kirsch
Murdered by a U.S. soldier in Cu Chi, 1970.

Lucinda Richter
Died of Guillain-Barre Syndrome, Cam Ranh Bay, 1971.

Army Special Services
Rosalyn Muskat
Died in a jeep accident, Long Binh, October 26, 1968.

Dorothy Phillips
Died in a plane crash, Qui Nhon, 1967.

Catholic Relief Services
Gloria Redlin
Shot in Pleiku, 1969.

Central Intelligence Agency
Barbara Robbins
Died when a car bomb exploded outside the American Embassy, Saigon, March 30, 1965.

Betty Gebhardt
Died in Saigon, 1971.

United States Agency for International Development
Marilyn Lynn Allan
Murdered by a U.S. soldier in Nha Trang, August 16, 1967.

Dr. Breen Ratterman (American Medical Association) Died from injuries suffered in a fall from her apartment balcony in Saigon, October 2, 1969

United States Department of the Navy OICC (Officer in Charge of Construction)

Regina "Reggie" Williams
Died of a heart attack in Saigon, 1964

Journalists

Georgette "Dickey" Chapelle
Killed by a mine on patrol with Marines outside Chu Lai, 4 Nov 1965.

Philipa Schuyler
Killed in a helicopter crash into the ocean near Da Nang, May 9, 1967.

Missionaries

Carolyn Griswald
Killed in raid on leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot during Tet 1968.

Janie A. Makil
Shot in an ambush, Dalat, 1963. Janie was five months old.

Ruth Thompson
Killed in a raid on the leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot 1968

Ruth Wilting
Killed in a raid on the leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot 1968.

POW/MIA

Evelyn Anderson
Captured and burned to death in Kengkok, Laos, 1972. Remains recovered and returned to U.S.

Beatrice Kosin
Captured and burned to death in Kengkok, Laos, 1972. Remains recovered and returned to U.S.

Betty Ann Olsen
Captured during a raid on the leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot during Tet 1968. Died in 1968 and was buried somewhere along Ho Chi Minh Trail by fellow POW, Michael Benge. Remains not recovered.

Eleanor Ardel Vietti
Captured at leprosarium in Ban Me Thuot, May 30, 1962. Still listed as POW.

Operation Babylift

The following women were killed in the crash, outside Saigon, of the C5-A Galaxy transporting Vietnamese children out of the country on April 4, 1975. All of the women were working for various U.S. government agencies in Saigon at the time of their deaths with the exception of Theresa Drye (a child) and Laurie Stark (a teacher). Sharon Wesley had previously worked for both the American Red Cross and Army Special Services. She chose to stay on in Vietnam after the pullout of U.S. military forces in 1973.

Barbara Adams | Clara Bayot | Nova Bell | Arleta Bertwell | Helen Blackburn | Ann Bottorff | Celeste Brown | Vivienne Clark | Juanita Creel | Mary Ann Crouch | Dorothy Curtiss | Twila Donelson | Helen Drye | Theresa Drye | Mary Lyn Eichen | Elizabeth Fugino | Ruthanne Gasper | Beverly Herbert | Penelope Hindman | Vera Hollibaugh | Dorothy Howard | Barbara Kauvulia | Barbara Maier | Rebecca Martin | Sara Martini | Martha Middlebrook | Katherine Moore | Marta Moschkin | Marion Polgrean | June Poulton | Joan Pray | Sayonna Randall | Anne Reynolds | Marjorie Snow | Laurie Stark | Barbara Stout | Doris Jean Watkins | Sharon Wesley

http://userpages.aug.com/captbarb/lives2.html

I certainly think you owe all of these women an apology.

[dreissig]

44. Selective Service

The topic of this discussion is Selective Service. 17,000 draftees were killed in Vietnam, and none of them were women. That fact is not in dispute, is it?

[prolesunited]

49. No it isn't

As I clearly pointed out in my post — "Perhaps they weren't drafted..."

Your statement seemed to imply that only men paid the 100% tax in Vietnam. I was simply pointing out to others who may not have been aware of it that a number of women, both military and civilian, lost their lives in Vietnam.

I'm not trying to take away anything from the men who were drafted and died, simply point out that women also were among the casualties. Don't you think they deserve recognition as well?

[dreissig]

52. The Selective Service Law

The law requires males to register for the draft. That's what this thread is about. Here is the original post:

I am going to a community college next semester, I won't be 18 until March 19th of next year, but the school is saying I need to register with the SS b/c their policy requires that if you're 17 and 9 mos. before the term begins you must register. Does this sound right, and what are the consequences of it? I don't think there's going to be a draft, but with Bush Co. you never know - and I sure don't want to be signing up early to go off and fight his war for oil. What should I do?

He has a genuine problem, and one of its significant aspects is that female 17-year olds do not face this problem. They don't have to register for the draft, and don't have to plan their lives around the consequences of their choices regarding the draft.

One of the things this young man might do is squawk about the unfairness of the male-only draft, but it's likely that he won't get much support from feminists. Registration for the draft is not new. It's still around, waiting to be implemented as the nation's military needs dictate.

[Maddy McCall]

34. Oh god, you again.

I thought you were going to spend a little time reading up on feminist literature.

So what's your point?

Do the women who stay home and work and run families "pay?"

No sense talking to you...you have shown explicitly your level of comprehension of women's issues...and that level is toxicly low.

[ForrestGump]

36. Menstruation is a tax

Due every month.

I don't have a problem with only men being drafted (I mean, beyond the fact that I think the pros of a draft in the US are far outweighed by the cons) and I wouldn't particularly have a problem with some proportion of women being drafted, if it came down to it. Again, all this in the context of my being opposed to the draft, especially when it could be instituted to provide the most transparently commercially-oriented US administration ever with what basically amount to mercenaries press-ganged to work for the chickenhawk principals' various oil and other bidnesses.

I'd suggest that the draft - that does not currently exist, of course - has nothing to do with any perceived 'failure' of the femiist movement and I strongly suspect that feminists, both male and female, would be on the front lines of efforts to keep the draft from being reinstituted.

[dreissig]

47. The Front Lines

Actually, the silence of feminists on the subject of draft registration is somewhat remarkable. You may have noticed that as this thread developed there was much discussion on different options available to men. For example, it was pointed out that men who fail to register for the draft can still receive financial assistance, just not government financial assistance. I felt it was worthy of mention that women aren't confronted with dilemmas about registering for the draft or not. The one-sidedness of this situation doesn't provoke much comment from feminists, have you noticed?

[smirkymonkey]

40. The issue really shouldn't be about

Gender, but about why are we starting (yes, starting) wars in the first place. If men were so against conscription, would they continue to support such war-mongering politicians?? Also, keep in mind that those sending men off to war are men themselves.

And, I agree w/ proles, that nobody should have to go to war that doesn't believe in war on either a practical or ideological basis.

As far as a "Tax", Women pay taxes, a majority of those taxes are going to the defense industry. That is more than I care to participate.

[dreissig]

51. Pressing Problem

The 17-year old young man who started this thread is worried about being conscripted and sent off to Iraq. He has a real problem that concerns his immediate future. It's quite possible that he will be in a life-threatening situation within a year or two. And not just sorta life-threatening, either. He stands a chance of being put in mortal danger.

[smirkymonkey]

55. As I have said, I don't think anyone

should go, and I don't think this war should have ever come about in the first place. If I were a young male, I would refuse to go on principle. Hell, jail in the US is still better than being in Iraq.

What needs to happen is that this perpetual war and warmongering needs to stop. NOBODY should have to fight or die for oil.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

50. Look who stumbled in to insert some misogyny into the discussion

aren't you tired of spewing anti-female BS?

:eyes:

[dreissig]

53. The All-Male Draft

There's no misogyny here. You might have a point if I were advocating an all-female draft. What we have now is an all-male draft that is taken for granted as "normal" and "natural".

[smirkymonkey]

56. Well, I suppose there will be an

"All-Female" draft when we are fighting an "All-Female" enemy.

[dreissig]

59. Good Point

That's about when I expect it, too.

[sal]

38. I chose not to register when it began in 1978

And I encouraged all my friends not too, because I am anti-war in any case, and I believe it is important to know when to say no to the government. Pre-registering people is much too much IMO.

The result was that the government got mad enough to send some nasty letters to me and an FBI guy (or two) to ask my friends some questions about me. As far as I know, I will never be able to drown in college loans, which I have never sought. I am glad I never did sign. Happy to feel somewhat less of a hypocrit than I ordinarily might have otherwise.

One piece of advice brave young patriot: chose the path that is best for you, then shove the dickheads out the way.

[tritsofme]

41. Im not sure if

there would be such a big backlash against the draft by youth if it were reinstituted. It seems to me that most of these kids that were raised in the 90's were raised in a decade of conformity, and the last few years of glorification of the military industrial complex hasnt helped. I dont know the truth behind some polls, but Ive read that college students rate dumbya higher than the general population, this I dont understand.

Would most kids today be brainwashed into thinking they were serving their country through some "righteous" cause in bushco's illegal wars? Can you imagine the extreme propaganda we would be hearing 24/7 if there was a draft? If you think its bad now, wait until that starts up.

[MattNC]

42. as a college student...

i can say without equivocation that a draft won't go over well to put it mildly.

[tritsofme]

43. What I am really

concerned about is the months and months of propaganda leading up to the draft.

I just hope that Im wrong.

[greekspeak]

58. In the age of the gameboy/gamecube/internet?

Kids, hell a lot of ADULTS are going to go bananas if a draft is instated. Do you think that the little sheeple are going to stand for the gameboys and gamecubes being ripped away from them and replaced with a gun?

[election_2004]

61. here's what you do

Register with Selective Service so you can get financial aid from our sexist, elitist federal government.

If there's a draft, and if they try to draft you, tell them to go fuck off.

They can't actually physically make you go and fight in a war.

[LTR]

65. I registered in 1986

It was the law back then. Even got a reminder in the mail.

Funny thing is, later that very night, Reagan bombed the hell out of Libya. Didn't get much sleep that night.