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DarkPhenyx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:02 PM Original message |
Tony Blair. |
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economic justice (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Except that |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Closer to the Social Democrats |
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emad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 09:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. 3rd wayers or fourth reich? |
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Screaming Lord Byron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Oh, no. The Labour party are certainly not lefties, |
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economic justice (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. For some it is... |
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jonoboy (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 11:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I was shocked |
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Screaming Lord Byron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 09:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Like I say, I'm very much afraid they're remnants. |
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Kinkistyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 04:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Kind of like the Liberal Democrats in Japan |
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jonoboy (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. the Conservatives seem to love him |
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economic justice (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I agree |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 09:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. He didn't drag it right. He went precisely to the place where he could |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 12:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yet again, a false argument |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. AP has this humourous knack |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 12:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. And did they win the next election? Those were all one-termers |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 12:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I simply pointed out where your argument was false. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 01:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Have you lived outside the UK? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 07:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Facts needed here |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 11:55 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Why couldn't labor ever win a second term? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 06:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. As TiB showed, they have won second terms before |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 08:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. try this at home: |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 10:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Here we go |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 10:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. There is a trial public defender program in the UK |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 11:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You're right, there are pilot public defender programmes |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. A few points. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. try this: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 02:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. one person - one vote is totally relevant. |
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tinnypriv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 11:11 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. What the living fuck? |
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Screaming Lord Byron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 11:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Labour won second terms in 1950, 1966 and 1974 (Oct) |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. It is a bit daft expecting Blairites to debate honestly |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Nobody disputes that New Labour has moved to the right. |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Balir and growing the middle class |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:01 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Wages, employment and home equity are probably increasing. |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:11 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Yes, AP you finally begin to get it |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:29 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Record employment and higher wages are the key things, though. |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 03:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Can you even read your own posts? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 09:02 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Labour wins first second term ever: Blair |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 11:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. I'm not sure which bits are quotes |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Break it down: number of years Labor led to years Tories led in 20th C. |
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Screaming Lord Byron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Currently 35 years tories to 23 years Labour since 1945 (3 to 2) |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Leave out Blair, and it's close to 2:1 Tory, and I believe, but I'm... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. pre 1945: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 02:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Are we disputing then that British politics in the 20th cenutry was |
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Screaming Lord Byron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 02:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Anything before 1945 doesn't matter much IMO |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 02:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Sadly, in Britain 1645 matters...which is what Blair is trying to change. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 03:29 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Has everyon gone to bed early in the UK? |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 03:04 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Ever heard of time difference? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 07:46 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Personal atttacks. It was only half nine when I wrote that. |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. That's not suprising |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 01:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Replace whatever liberal party there was, if there was one. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-05-03 02:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. By the way, Labour's rise was because of industrialisation and |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 03:19 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. I take it you do not read your own posts |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 07:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. My posts 50 and the cites in post 31 adddress your first paragraph |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:34 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. You have no idea what you are talking about |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:39 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You know where I got that impression? From a solicitor. + |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:54 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:10 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I didn't say Labour NEVER did anything good. But I stand by the argument |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 08:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Yes the English are essentially idiotic servants of the aristocracy |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:21 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Having an NHS is not conservative. But turning it into what it was by 97 |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Oh right |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-03 09:56 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I have the same criticisms of Blair that I had of Clinton. However... |
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jonoboy (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-03-03 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tony Benn is a great man |
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minto grubb (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 04:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. War crimes court... |
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Screaming Lord Byron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 09:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. If you declare an exclusion zone, then sink a ship outside of it |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 09:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I'd slap that biotch for visiting Pinochet when he was under house arrest |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
9. Most of the time I find things like this |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 07:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Thanks for making me spew |
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onebigbadwulf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yeah |
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Spentastic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
13. Er? |
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Dude_CalmDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-04-03 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
18. Has everyone seen this video yet? |
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