ForestsBeatBushes
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:31 PM
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Kerry,Gephardt,Edwards campaigns work together against potential Dean nod |
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WASHINGTON, Nov. 3 — In a rare alliance, strategists for John Edwards, Dick Gephardt and John Kerry discussed whether they could stop the Service Employees International Union from endorsing fellow Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean. And continue: http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/ap11-03-172855.asp?t=apnew&vts=11320031854
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:32 PM
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1. I am so glad that Wesley Clark |
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is apparently not involved in this sort of trash. It speaks well of him.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:36 PM
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I have no doubt that the three mouseketeers will team up against Clark in much the same way if it starts to look like he's gonna get the AFSCME endorsement.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:38 PM
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AFSCME is kind of fishing around to decide whether to endorse anyone. I think the betting is now that they'll hold of on an endorsement during the primaries, but we'll see.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:44 PM
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AFCME was a bit dissapointed that Clarkistas were dropping out of the Iowa primary. They were also looking at Kerry at first, but I am not sure if he is still their choice. I haven't heard anything about Dean from AFCME.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:46 PM
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12. supposedly AFSCME likes Dean too… |
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but intra-union politics may prevent them from endorsing the same candidate as SEIU.
at least that's what the original articles about the SEIU endorsement suggested.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:43 PM
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6. I think the next target |
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Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 10:48 PM by La_Serpiente
of Edwardanistas and Libermanistas are Clarkistas.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:39 PM
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4. You aren't the only one who has noticed... |
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...who isn't part of the "gang". We're taking notes and names. There will be a quiz later. Something called a primary process...
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:46 PM
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11. Forget that Trippi asked Gep's guy to join up with Dean and attack Clark? |
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Of course, when Dean does it, it's fine.
Does it matter that he's pretending to be a populist to these people, many of whom have no idea what a centrist he has been throughout his career?
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:49 PM
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Mon Nov-03-03 11:06 PM
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19. The perpetual Dean basher... |
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...only has the claims of Gep staffers to go on, which in light of this, seems quite dubious. Man, says much about the Dean campaign that all these Washington insiders are in such a tizzy to derail him. And with such obvious and shameful tactics...
Any of our nominees would be a better President than Bush, but the actions of these guys...man, ask me to hold my nose again, and I will. But I'd really rather not be forced to...
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Mon Nov-03-03 11:09 PM
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20. I guess anyone who speaks the truth about Dean is a |
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:44 PM
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I am pleasantly surprised that Clark hasn't jumped in on the bashing, when it could be argued that he is the one most closely locked in battle with Dean.
Perhaps he's noticed that the attacks have helped Kerry and Gep only slightly, if at all, and he is choosing not to engage.
It's an interesting strategy, for sure. Smart.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:30 AM
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29. Yes, it certainly does! |
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Wes is a good man indeed for this.
Meanwhile, when did Gep, Kerry and Edwards start acting like Repukes? STOP a union from giving it's endorsement?? Gee, guys I know you grew chickenshit when Bush came to you, but did you have to start ACTING like him too???
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:41 PM
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5. Kerry, Gephardt, and Edwards... |
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...can officially, if this is true, kiss any hope of a Veep nomination goodbye.
And yeah, I noticed Clark's name isn't in this. He truly is a man of character, a good man, and a VP we could all be proud of.
Assuming Dean gets the nod, of course, hehe.
Later.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:46 PM
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10. If it's a just world Dean won't get the nom. |
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The DLC is all about electibility and Mr. "I'm not afraid to lose" is a sure loser if ever there was one.
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:49 PM
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16. Your man's going down at the head... |
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Edited on Mon Nov-03-03 10:51 PM by robsul82
..."Just hold your breath, hold my hand, and KEEP KICKING for the top! Remember, Rose!" - Jack Dawson.
Later.
RJS
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:50 PM
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18. did you forget Mr. John "can't win a primary in his own backyard" Kerry? |
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how could you talk about losers and not mention him?
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Mon Nov-03-03 11:12 PM
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22. Not only is he a loser he is also such a smarmy politician. e/o/m |
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:48 PM
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13. Clark wasn't in on the faux flag bashing, either! |
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:50 PM
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17. That's certainly true as well... |
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...hmm, hadn't thought about that. More pointage for The General.
Later.
RJS
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:43 PM
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but Clark gets major points from me for not participating in this activity.
It speaks volumes about Dean's strength.. the idea that it would take the coordination of three hardened Congressional veterans with so many years of experience among them.. it speaks volumes..
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Mon Nov-03-03 10:49 PM
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:31 AM
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30. Because nothing else has..... |
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Mon Nov-03-03 11:12 PM
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21. Edwards+Gephardt+Kerry = Axis of Feeble |
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Mon Nov-03-03 11:16 PM
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24. Those are my three favorite candidates |
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Please be nice about them.
I'm kidding!
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Mon Nov-03-03 11:15 PM
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23. SEIU should be supporting Gephardt |
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Dean hasn't been unfriendly to unions, but Gephardt has been there 100%. While Dean was pimping NAFTA as Chair of the Governor's Association (and Kerry was voting for it) Gephardt led the unions and workers in opposition. Gephardt has done more for unions and labor and working families than any of the other candidates.
If Dean gets SEIU, that will be a HUGE victory for him. I don't like Dean, and don't want him to win, but if he starts to get the majority of the union vote, I might change my mind.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:20 AM
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considering electability.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:07 AM
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this translates into Dean scaring the shit out of Edwards, Gephardt and Kerry (Kerry? didn't he already implode?).
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:24 AM
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"It's Dean or nobody," said SEIU spokeswoman Sara Howard. That announcement prompted top aides to Edwards, Gephardt and Kerry to convene a conference call during which they asserted that each of their candidates are nobody.
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Tue Nov-04-03 09:26 AM
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28. I Would Love A Kerry-Edwards Ticket |
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I have feeling that they would too. I hope this solidifies it.
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