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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:23 AM
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What tawk show started the "democrats are leaving the party in droves' BS?
I keep HEARING it, I have even seen some on this board saying as much; what is the source for this?

The one right wing freak I asked about it in the yahoo chats wouldn't give me the source, so it has to be some wing nut fruitcake tawk show host freak, I assume?

Let's debunk this crap NOW.
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Abbalon Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:29 AM
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1. Just a variation
on a theme. When Newt became Speaker of the House he was famous for saying democrats were finished as a National Party. Rush Limbaugh then took up the chant. It seems your freind learned the chorus too.

He can't validate his claims because they are not so.
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Wellong Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:29 AM
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2. Need more information
about what exactly you are talking about before it can be "debunked" or "confirmed."

"Leaving the party in droves" is not specific enough.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:30 AM
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3. Maybe it's true
I can't say. I can say that I'm disturbed by the number of liberal registered independents I see.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:45 AM
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6. They may be Green-leaning or Libertarian-leaning
rather than Republican-leaning. Some of the Independents I know are actually Green-leaning, and they can't be the only ones in the country.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 12:09 PM
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13. Right on
Exactly. Leaving the D party doesn't mean leaving the left. Perse.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:39 AM
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4. Just another right wing talking point.
My gut feeling tells me the exact opposite is true. When the reich comes out with a statement such as this, it says to me that they're worried. I mean if they had a truely great and popular president in the WH, why would they give a rat's ass about how many Dems there are?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:41 AM
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5. Who can trace where within the Party-Loyal Right-Wing Sub-Media
it originated?

Perhaps it originated in Uncle Karl's office.

Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't (given the source, it probably isn't).

Who can tell in Imperial Amerika, where information is becoming Sovietized.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:47 AM
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7. In my Republican dominated area, I'm finding the opposite
Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 11:47 AM by SharonAnn
Democrats are becoming more and more active, recruiting new members, writing new letters, etc.

Former Republicans are stating that they're Independents (first step towards joining the Democrats - as it was for me).

New people are coming forward supporting the Democratic Party.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:49 AM
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8. Maybe the rumor was started by Zell Miller
:-)

Or maybe it's like the time a certain Lutheran church in Minneapolis hired a very liberal pastor. My mother heard from an acquaintance of hers, a conservative, that "half the congregation had left."

I had attended that church during college, ten years before, but when I went back to check, I found that it was still almost all the same people as before, plus a lot of new ones. Far from losing half the congregation, the new pastor had actually increased membership.

I guess that conservative considered himself and his four or five friends who had left to be so important as to constitute "half the congregation."
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:50 AM
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9. Zell Miller says its so, it must be!
That's the logic, that there are a lot of people like Zell. I suppose I could be considered a centrist (Simply about being pragmatic and winning elections, but if anything... I'm becoming increasingly leftist and loyal to the Dems.
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ant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:55 AM
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10. that's funny
I just got an email from a friend who said she had decided to register as a Dem. She's always been registered as an Independent, though she's VERY liberal and would never dare vote for a Rep, but she said she saw Dean speak and was so moved by the idea of taking back the party that she decided to register as a Dem.

Just one story, of course, but I found the timing of her email and my reading this thread kind of funny.

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Flaming Meaux Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 11:57 AM
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11. The Bush people started it.
Edited on Tue Nov-04-03 11:58 AM by Flaming Meaux
OK, I'm printing ALL of this article because it belongs to ME. It sheds light on this very issue.

Miss. Dems going GOP by the...um..


September 5, 2003
Onesies and twosies? This appeared in my in-box, courtesy of the Bush campaign. Try not to spit coffee on your computer from laughing too hard.

Democrats Switching to the President's Team

This week President Bush met with a dozen Mississippi Democrats that switched to the Republican Party during his presidency. Leading the group was Mississippi Lieutenant Governor Amy Tuck who became a Republican in 2002 after she increasingly saw the Democrat leadership at odds with her principles.

President Bush's decisive leadership continues to attract a growing number of independents and Democrats to the Republican Party. At least 85 Democrats have become Republicans since President Bush was elected to office.


--end clip--

85 Democrats went over to the dark side since January 2001? Eighty-five? That's it? I assume that's in Mississippi, and not the entire United States, although they aren't clear on that one. Nevertheless, if they find the fact that some seven dozen Mississippi Democrat defections (out of what, a couple million registered voters?) in almost three years newsworthy enough to mention in their weekly communique' to whoever registers at their website (know thine enemy, I say), they must really be desperate for good news in GOPland.

Note that they haven't mentioned how many Republicans became fed up in that time and become independents or Democrats. That number has got to be more than 85.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 12:04 PM
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12. I've said it myself...
...although many who 'leave' the party don't necessarily join another party...they simply join the millions who no longer vote.

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