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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:59 PM
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Has a military hero ever lost a presidential election besides McGovern?
I don't think so. Washington,Jackson,Tyler,Grant,Roosevelt,Einsenhour, Kennedy, Bush Sr. Burr? Point is that I think we greatly increase our odds of beating Bush with a military man. You can't ignore history.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:00 PM
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1. what about McCain V Bush?
Granted it was a primary but does that count?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:02 PM
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2. Bush Sr. lost to Clinton.
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MrSoundAndVision Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:03 PM
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3. two will lose this time, so don't bet on that as a rule of thumb
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:07 PM
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5. I meant general election I don't think a General has ever lost.
I just think we could win the south honorably by appealing to it's historic affinity toward the miltary.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:06 PM
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4. History can't predict the unprecedented.
Bush might lose in 2004. He might not. I'd say the question is, what are we going to do about it?
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:09 PM
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6. Dole was not a general, but then neither was McGovern.
They both lost.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:12 PM
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7. Bob Dole....
Military hero...
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:22 PM
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8. McGovern was not publicized as a military hero
He was played as a weirdo democratic antiwar peacenik out-of-reality freak.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:33 PM
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9. I guess I blew it on this one. Another reason Clinton was so impressive.
I forgot about recent history. Another reason Clinton was truly a superstar, although Ross Perot and his charts helped the first time around.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:35 PM
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10. Winfield Scott
lost to Zachary Taylor in 1850, if memory serves. For those who don't know, Scott was a military hero from the War of 1812 on. He and Taylor both fought in Mexico.
And another general, Winfield Scott Hancock, lost to one of the Republicans after the Civil War. It wasn't Hayes-maybe Garfield. But Hancock was a fairly able Union general who could be called a hero.
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:37 PM
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11. Sure. General George B. McClellan lost to Abe Lincoln in 1864.
It's arguable if you'd call him a "hero" - but at the time, he was widely regarded as such.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:37 PM
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12. Gen. Douglas MacArthur Seemed Like A Good Idea
But he got trounced.
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