billbuckhead
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:24 PM
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Wouldn't a more honorable way to win the south, be to run a military man? |
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One truth about the south is that it sends many of it's sons to the military, perhaps a greater percentage than other areas of the nation.Often it has been said that the most successful example of integration is the military. Surely appealing to this successful model is more honorable and optimistic than putting divisive symbols on pickup trucks.
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:25 PM
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to argue with that.
Cheers
Mike
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:27 PM
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a military man from the south? Sounds good to me.:bounce:
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:32 PM
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3. Yeah, they just love military folks down there |
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like McCain in South Carolina and Cleland in Jaw-ja.
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:38 PM
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if he can beat the Good Dr., which I doubt.
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:50 PM
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7. How about with the good doctor? |
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The doctor and the general--covers everything that could go wrong! Talk about security issues!
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:41 PM
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He served honorably in Vietnam while Bush was AWOL. Nobody in the solid south seemed to give a shit about that.
I think Clark would make a very strong candidate by the way...
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:14 PM
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12. Big difference. McCain didn't know Bush's AWOL story at the time. |
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Bush will not be able to escape it in the general election this time. Especially after his flyboy stunt.
There was peace back in 2000, and noone paid much attention to military matters as much as they will in 2004.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:19 PM
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13. I find that very hard to believe |
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The only big story on this ran in April I will admit but this was an open secret in Texas and among some Texan military figures. Surely one of them filled in McCain.
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:45 PM
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6. Surely not caving in to the South's obsessive fetish with the military is |
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more honorable and optimistic than submitting to it.
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billbuckhead
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:54 PM
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9. "South's obsessive fetish, "Winning more hearts and minds aren't we? |
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One reason is that it's always been a way up for poor people and middleclass people of all races.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:06 PM
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10. Your Future in The Army - a Transfer Tube |
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One reason is that it's always been a way up for poor people and middleclass people of all races.
Yeah. Right up to a "transfer tube" after making the ultimate sacrifice for some multinational or a president's ego.
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Wed Nov-05-03 08:53 PM
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8. 1. Do we have any chance in any southern states? 2. What if |
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Colin Powell is #2 on the repub. ticket?
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:09 PM
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11. More honorable than what? |
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"more honorable and optimistic than putting divisive symbols on pickup trucks"
Are you comparing if running Clark is more honorable than a guy in the south puttin a flag on his pickup?
Holy Shit!
Apples and Oranges type bashing...
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billbuckhead
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:26 PM
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16. I'm just talking generalities. What's the bashing? |
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Kerry's a military guy as well.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:23 PM
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14. I've been one of the few South defenders in all these threads |
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But Southern "patriotism" is largely of the shallow, jingoistic, Ronnie Raygun, Lee Greenwood, neocon/GOP variety. They just buy whatever Gingrich et al are selling, and have done for a generation now.
That's why they dump real vets and support Chickenhawks.
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Wed Nov-05-03 10:19 PM
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I am not sure it would give us any advantage. It might, but only if Iraq gets worse and the military man has some much better ideas.
You are probably better off locking down the more cosmopolitan areas than competing out in the sticks.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:26 PM
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15. The dems have a lot of true veterans running |
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Who did their time in the trenches as a common man, yet the south still as a whole votes for GOP candidates.
Here's a hint from Al Gore, who did his time in Vietnam: stop pushing gun control and you can get their votes.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:28 PM
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17. Military is all about guns and weapons |
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It is a good place to play with guns, right Bill from Buckhead? that is where we legitimatize our killing, after all those weapons are for hunting deer.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:32 PM
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If he makes remarks like Clark and suggests they join the Army to play with guns it may not go over well with those that have served and now just want to play with their own guns.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:46 PM
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20. I've only heard Clark make that remark |
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in reference to assault weapons.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:50 PM
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21. define assualt weapon |
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Most if not all semi-auto guns could be defined as "assualt weapons" under the fuzzy ban implemented in the early 90's.
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Wed Nov-05-03 09:43 PM
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19. not if he's a war criminal |
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Wed Nov-05-03 10:14 PM
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22. God I wish Americans would grow up. Still playing with guns and toys |
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and being the big swaggering bullies. Put the military folks in the DOD where they belong!
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Wed Nov-05-03 10:14 PM
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There is no predicting that it would. Retired Military man against our 'valorous' Commander in Thief. Shrubbie* knows how to wrap himself in the flag just fine.
I am not sure a military man gives us all that much advantage.
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