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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-03 03:55 AM
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Do you like to play twister mind games sometimes?
Do you find that reading conservative op eds is like playing twister with your brain? I actually think some of these guys write the rnc talking points.

They are usually good for a few giggles, which is a blessing because it keeps me from going completely mad with rage.

They can also be useful if you need to purge a heavy meal.

Dying for an example?

"Muscular Progressivism"
One clip shows Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld asserting the existence of weapons of mass destruction as he argues the case for war, while the next shows Rumsfeld explaining that it is unlikely we will ever find WMD in post-Saddam Iraq. Interspersed among such clips are interviews with a number of experts such as former CIA director Stansfield Turner, Ambassador Joe Wilson, and the aforementioned Ritter. These folks made a few good jabs at the administration, but the strength of their arguments was undermined by their desire to give Saddam the benefit of the doubt, while simultaneously assuming the worst about our own executive branch.

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First is the insistence by the supposed experts that Saddam and al Qaeda couldn't have had links because of the vast ideological divide between the socialist and secular Baath party and the fundamentalist leadership of al Qaeda. Now I may not be a CIA expert, but, as I said, I do watch the History Channel quite a bit and I can easily cite historical examples in which ideological chasms were bridged for the sake of defeating a common enemy. Take the Hitler-Stalin non-aggression pact for example--who would have imagined, Communists and Nazis working together to screw the Poles? Or if you want to go further back, there's Louis XVI's support for nascent American democracy. At one point, John Brady Kiesling, a foreign service officer who resigned in March over the administration's Iraq policy, asserts that it is ridiculous to think Saddam would jeopardize his power for an "adventure" with al Qaeda. Did he forget Saddam's excellent adventures in Iran and Kuwait--or the game of chicken he enjoyed playing with the oncoming steamroller bearing the license plate U.S. Army. Risky adventures were the common thread of Saddam's long despotism.

edit: notice no actual link evidence is offered..just a few historical antidotes the writer has picked up from the history channel...

edit: this is a quote from gwb
U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents. Inspectors recently turned up 16 of them--despite Iraq's recent declaration denying their existence. Saddam Hussein has not accounted for the remaining 29,984 of these prohibited munitions. He's given no evidence that he has destroyed them.

For some reason, Greenwald's experts--and Podesta's audience--found the president's implication, that Saddam must be hiding the rest of the warheads somewhere, preposterous. The audience burst out laughing. I must say I missed the joke. Why should Saddam have gotten the benefit of the doubt here? Or maybe the mere appearance of the president is what had them laughing. Either way, I suspect "muscular progressivism" will turn out to be the bigger joke.
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HAHAHAA.. no mention of where the 29,984 'prohibited munitions' might be now that we're on the ground. We'll just give the coalition the benefit of the doubt.
I'll go purge now.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/339witfb.asp

A screening of Robert Greenwald's "Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq War" gives insight into the mind of the muscular progressive.
by Michael Goldfarb
11/05/2003 10:40:00 AM

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