Okay, Howard Kurtz (Wash.Post) bashes Bush-Nazi story and LIES.

[seventhson]

AND quotes the Conason article for approval.

What the hell is going on?

The original article can be found at nhgazette.com

Kurtz misleads his readers by claiming that Prescott Bush was trading with the enemy BEFORE WWII.

This is wholely wrong.

The whole point of the article is that the Bush family fortune was made in large part by financing the Nazis AFTER WWII began.

That is what Loftus documented in his work at John-Loftus.com (see articles on Thyssen-Krupp) and what author John Buchanan found in the newly released/declassified US archive documents.

We should all be aware of these stories and understand the historical continuity from Prescott to GHWBush and the corrupt covert CIA ops to the current administration and the Republican Party leadership ties to the immigrant Nazi community smuggled into the US by Wall Street and washington insiders like Kissinger.

If THIS story can be buried and spun to extinction by the media then will any dictator from wall street be able to get away with mass murder and genocide for generations?

Kurtz acknowledges that there is a story there. But he lies about it, spins it, parrots untrue facts, and expects the story to die on the vine.

Will WE let it die?

Not in 2004.

Hell - not in 3004!!!


Here's the link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55227-2003Nov2.html

[derby378]

1. Link, please?

Yes, I want to keep this thread kicked...it's too important...

[Wwagsthedog]

2. Here is a link for starters

Don't know how reliable it is.

http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm

[tom_paine]

3. I just looked for a link--couldn't find one

[seventhson]

4. Sorry - HERE's the link for all to read...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55227-2003Nov2.html

[papau]

6. Not much here

<snip>Some liberal critics are accusing the mainstream media of refusing to write about the Bush family's Nazi connection.

Many media outlets, including The Washington Post, have "repeatedly declined to investigate" the matter, writes John Buchanan of the New Hampshire Gazette, the first to report on newly declassified government documents.

The Associated Press picked up the story that Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather, was a director of a New York bank seized by federal authorities over ties to a German industrialist who helped finance Adolf Hitler's rise. "The documents do not show any evidence Bush directly aided that effort," the AP reports.

Buchanan says he called journalists at Newsweek, Time, the Wall Street Journal and other outlets -- in one case threatening to give a columnist's name to Congress for refusing to report on the story -- but that they joined the "cover-up."

Is this an interesting historical footnote that deserves wider exposure? Probably. But should the president be tarred with what the late senator, who's been dead for three decades, did or failed to do before World War II? "Imputing Nazi sympathies to the president or his family ought to be beneath his adversaries," writes Bush critic Joe Conason in the New York Observer. <snip>

[DUreader]

10. Isn't that the point of this thread, WP covering up the true story

?

[seventhson]

16. ABSOLUTELY!!!

Howard Kurtz has done Jayson Blair one better by actually repeating and plagiarizing a lie from the AP story which is EASILY disporvable:

The Seizure of the Bush assets as a Nazi front company under Prescott Bush's Directorship was almost one year INTO the war, on NOVEMBER 7, 1942!!!

HERE IS THE SMOKING GUN PROOF THAT KURTZ LIED OR AT THE VERY LEAST PLAGIARIZED WTHOUT FACT CHECKING. THAT IS WORSE THAN WHAT JASON BLAIR DID: BLAIR FABRICATED BUT HE DID NOT INTENTIONALLY COVER UP THE CRIMES OF OUR PRESENT RULERS!!!

Check the date (its pdf and is a copy of the original vesting order seizing t Bush assets and NAMING Bush as owning one share which later would be worth MILLIONS. As a Director of the company he KNEW he was arranging financing for the Nazis and this was their MAIN purpose throughout the 20's and 30's -- to raise money for the Nazis whose goal was global fascist conquest. And the Bushes were 1000% behind Hitler.

Here it is: Pass it on;

http://www.mbpolitics.com/bush2000/Vesting.htm


Conason and Kurtz are dead wrong. It DOES matter. It matters NOW more than ever.

Kurtz Lies and thousands die.

[tom_paine]

7. Ugh. I'm sorry I asked

Reading Howie always makes me ill.

Of course, Howie's wife is a Bushevik Button. I'm sure he wants to stay on her good side, as well as the the side of all their Bushevik pals.

[papau]

5. This was an Oct 19 Kurtz story

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A46805-2003Oct18?language=printer


A Dislike Unlike Any Other?
Writer Jonathan Chait Brings Bush-Hating Out of the Closet
By Howard Kurtz Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, October 19, 2003; Page D01

The words tumble out, the hands gesture urgently, as Jonathan Chait explains why he hates George W. Bush. It's Bush's radical policies, says the 31-year-old New Republic writer, and his unfair tax cuts, and his cowboy phoniness, and his favors for corporate cronies, and his heist in Florida, and his dishonesty about his silver-spoon upbringing, and, oh yes, the way he walks and talks.<snip>


... But as National Review's Byron York points out, one far-left Web site accuses the Bush family of involvement in hundreds of deaths, while others liken the president to Hitler (you can order a Bush T-shirt with a swastika in place of the "s") or just call him an idiot (Toostupidtobepresident.com). York also notes that Sheldon Drobny, who is arranging financing for a liberal talk radio network, has alleged online that the president's grandfather, Prescott Bush, did business with the Third Reich but that "as in any fascist regime, the press is prevented from publishing it."<snip>

[seventhson]

8. Here's the original NHGazette article by John Buchanon w/Loftus interview

http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi

and a clip of Doonesbury's response to boot.

Which of these stories is not like the others?

Kurtz lied in his piece. He is like Jayson Blair. He steals the story, spins it, reprints - without fact checking - a lie - and has the balls to quote Conason for approval.

Kurtz is no reliable source - but for this journalistic sin he should be on the same train home with Jayson Blair (run out of town on a rail). Lies are lies. Plaigiarism without fact checking deserves dismissal.

Damn lies are damn lies.

And minimizing the fact that the Bushes helped send millions of Jews to the gas chambers and tens of thousands of American GI's to obvlivion in the hell of battle is a DAMN LIE.

Damn right the media is covering this story up. It is an ugly story and they are not only in wall street's pocket but they are as chickenshitty as he and his cowardly thugs are.

[seventhson]

9. Here is the blatant LIE!!!

Kurtz says:

"Is this an interesting historical footnote that deserves wider exposure? Probably. But should the president be tarred with what the late senator, who's been dead for three decades, did or failed to do before World War II?"

The lie is that this happened BEFORE WWII.

It happened DURING WWII ( a whole year into the war in 1942!!!) that Bush's financial company Brown Bros., Harriman was identified as a Nazi-owned company.

THAT is Kurtz's BIG lie.


and iot needs to be shouted far and wide until someone at the Washington Post corrects it.

Howie REALLY screwed up this time. He oputright lied to protect the Bushes.

And Buchanan had to get police protection for his courage.

[Sterling]

11. Kick for Webster Tarpley

Kick

[seventhson]

18. Tarpley is absolutely essential reading

Tarpley.net is ONE place to start for DETAILS and precision footnotes.

I do NOT agree with every opinion of Tarpley -- but the fact is that he documents the Bush problems like nobody else.

[ComerPerro]

12. You know the really, really interesting thing here, that I haven't seen

anyone mention (although I could be wrong)?


The defense for this horrible action is that it was before WWII.

Even though its a lie, lets look at the lie, shall we?

He can't say that the accusation is untrue, because that would be too blatant. But by saying that part of its true, and that liberals have the facts wrong, he can discredit us and make himself look more trustworthy at the same time.

Here is the really distrubing part.

He readily admidts that the trading happened. But the defense was that it was before we were at war with them.

I say: who gives a flying fuck?

The point is, he was a close business partner with the Nazis.

You don't have to be a declared enemy of the US to be a dirty, murderous sleazebag. Everyone knew what the Nazis were by the mid thrities. The US, though, didn't care.

And now, this "defense" disturbs me. This is the same reason that Americans don't care about Reagan supporting Saddam.

[DUreader]

13. Good point and sad commentary on our country

[FauxNewsBlues]

14. Kurtz full of crap

What, was trading with Nazi Germany ok before 1942? I would love for Howie to explain when the cutoff date was for this. Was it before he invaded Poland? Pre Czech? Before they started bombing England? When is the day when it was a-ok to financially deal with Hitler so we can be better informed.

Secondly, I am stepping on a sacred cow here, but both the Kennedy clan and the Bush clan are fair game on the issue of their relatives for one reason; money.

The money Joe Kennedy got from rum running, helped boost up the next generation that went into politics. It is a fact.

The money that Prescott Bush made once the bank was liquidated was $10,000,000 in today's money. That money went to George H.W. Bush and helped finance his business and political ambitions. It also helped Chimpy. This makes it fair game. If Prescott Bush was a Nazi sympathiser on the side, it is genuinely unfair to tar George W with that, especially if George W. doesn't share his beliefs.

However, once Prescott Bush's blood money passed into George W.'s hands through his trust fund, and that money helped elevate his position, it is absolutely a fair issue to discuss.

[seventhson]

15. Exactly!!! Kurtz LIED about it being BEFORE WWII. It was DURING!!!

Obviously the trading was technically LEGAL before the US got into the war in December 1941.

BUT, it was completely illegal and treasonous AFTER the US got into the war.

Kurtz is SPREADING the BIG LIE to promote the falsehood that it was BEFORE the war when it was clearly going on for a YEAR into the Second World War!!!

That means the Bush family's profits came from financing the enemy and KILLING American GIs (not to mention the killing of Jews, Unionists, Socxial Democrats, the Roma people, Jehovah's Witnesses, Homosexuals, and the Handicapped).

THEN Prescott got to KEEP the profits in post WWII settlements and USED his share of the Holocaust bounty to Finance his political campaign for the US Senate (which he won)

The story has been covered up for years.

But if Prescott had been properly prosecuted and his moneys confiscated as illegal and dirty and treasonous profits - then we WOULD NOT HAVE HAD his son and grandsons as governors and presidents.

It was the Crime of the CENTURY AND IT GOES ON and ON...

The Bushzis WON WWII and we the American people LOST it...

BUT WE CAN WIN IT BACK!!!!

Knowledge is power!

Pass it on.

[seventhson]

17. Must Read: The Real Skinny: Proof that Kurtz LIED!!!

http://john-loftus.com/Thyssen.asp

These are the articles Kurtz COULD have read in order to check his facts (and he could have sourced them as well.

They will blow your mind and should blow the COUNTRY's mind too!

MUST READ!!!


Excerpt for those who.... oh, you know...: (used by permission of the author):


On February 8, 1951, Fritz Thyssen died bitterly in Argentina at the age of 78. Thyssen was angry at the way he was treated by Europe after the war and how history would remember him as Hitler's most important and prominent financier. When Thyssen died, the Alien Property Custodian released the assets of the Union Banking Corporation to Brown Brothers Harriman. The remaining stockholders cashed in their stocks and quietly liquidated the rest of UBC's blood money.

Prescott Bush received $1.5 million for his share in UBC. That money enabled Bush to help his son, George Herbert Walker Bush, to set up his first royalty firm, Overby Development Company, that same year. It was also helpful when Prescott Bush left the business world to enter the public arena in 1952 with a successful senatorial campaign in Connecticut. On October 8th, 1972, Prescott Bush died of cancer and his will was enacted soon after. In 1980, when George H.W. Bush was elected vice president, he placed his father's family inherence in a blind trust. The trust was managed by his old friend and quail hunting partner, William "Stamps" Farish III. Bush's choice of Farish to manage the family wealth is quite revealing in that it demonstrates that the former president might know exactly where some of his inheritance originated. Farish's grandfather, William Farish Jr., on March 25th, 1942, pleaded "no contest" to conspiring with Nazi Germany while president of Standard Oil in New Jersey. He was described by Senator Harry Truman in public of approaching "treason" for profiting off the Nazi war machine. Standard Oil, invested millions in IG Farben, who opened a gasoline factory within Auschwitz in 1940. The billions "Stamps" inherited had more blood on it then Bush, so the paper trail of UBC stock would be safe during
his 12 years in presidential politics. It has been 60 years since one of the great money laundering scandals of the 20th century ended and only now are we beginning to see the true historical aspects of this important period of world history, a history that the remaining Holocaust survivors beg humanity to "never forget."

Loftus believes history will view Prescott Bush as harshly as Thyssen. "It is bad enough that the Bush family helped raise the money for Thyssen to give Hitler his start in the 1920s, but giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war is treason. The Bush bank helped the Thyssens make the Nazi steel that killed Allied solders. As bad as financing the Nazi war machine may seem, aiding and abetting the Holocaust was worse. Thyssen's coal mines used Jewish slaves as if they were disposable chemicals. There are six million skeletons in the Thyssen family closet, and a myriad of criminal and historical questions to be answered about the Bush family's complicity."

[seventhson]

19. I KNOW I KNOW -- THIS IS A STORY YOU ALL HAVE HEARD BUTTTT...

Unless we call the media out on their lies and spin they will keep screwing us and hiding the fascist nature of the BFEE corporate automaton juggernaut.

PLEASE keep this kicked up and express your outrage.


How will we ever win if we cannot shout in outrage at the lies we are told. John Buchanan is under police protection for this story and I am scared shitless for even calling these bastards out.

Keep this story moving for at least a few days

and write the NHGazette.com and THANK them for their courage.


The Washington Post should PAY for spinning this web of lies using "Mr. Reliable Source". It is truly disgusting that he is getting away with this false story and that we are practically silent.

PLEASE kick it and pass it on!!!


And VOICE your outrage.

[KoKo]

20. E-Mail Howie and set him straight. Send him the evidence. His e-mail used

to be at the end of his column or somewhere there. I gave up on him, or I would do it myself.