Rove Under Oath?

[wyethwire]

Activist Brett Bursey is using his show trial into an effort to get John Ashcroft and Karl Rove to testify under oath.

A man charged with entering a restricted area during a presidential visit more than a year ago has requested U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft and Bush political adviser Karl Rove to appear at his trial next week.

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Some might call Bursey crazy, but they said that about Paula Jones, too.

[Hieronymus]

1. Awesome

:):bounce:

[wyethwire]

2. Cross your fingers

We'll have to see if the judge allows it.

[livinontheedge]

3. Uh, doesn't he have to show the relevance of the testimony?

Otherwise, why does he stop there? Why not supoena Bush too? I wouldn't hold my breath that Rove or Ashcroft will testify in this trial. Of course, I could be wrong. Just trying to use a little common sense.

[Military Brat]

8. The relevance will be shown during direct examination

You can't prove what someone is going to say until they say it. If Bursey has reasonable grounds and can cite case law that the testimony of Ashcroft and Rove will be shown to be relevant or may lead to relevant testimony or evidence, a judge may allow Ashcroft and Rove to be subpoenaed and compelled to testify, if such testimony would weigh in Bursey's favor. Mitigating evidence is a major factor here.

Although bush is actually the center of the controversy, no lawyer is going to subpoena him because it would turn the trial into a circus. Bursey's case is legit, and should proceed with all due respect to him and his grievance.

I am not an attorney. Any member of the Bar, particularly one who specializes in Constitutional law, is welcome to make corrections to my post.

Edit: spelling correction

[wyethwire]

11. Rove is fair game

The decision to cordon off protestors in "Free Speech Zones" out of sight of both the president and the media is a political decision. As political adviser, Rove might have some input into that decision.

Does that meet the threshold for relevance? Beats me.

[Military Brat]

14. Meeting the threshold

Good point. It makes sense to a logical person, but does it make sense to Republicannibals? Probably not.

Let's hope the judge is objective and nonpartisan.

[Timefortruth]

4. Won’t God strike Ashcroft down if he swears

to tell the truth and then says anything other than his name?

There is no way this will happen, they will be held in contempt first. There will be a terrorist attack first.

[Faygo Kid]

5. Rove and Oath in the same sentence?

Creative, I admit, but c'mon.

[sendero]

10. I dunno about Rove and oath....

... bur Rove and swear happens all the time around here :)

[beanball]

6. We want take no stinking oath

sez those two lawless creeps,we are above the law.

[John_H]

7. Spyware Search and Destroy blocks that link for me

nt

[leftofthedial]

9. but Bursey doesn't have Mellon-Scaife spending

whatever it takes to make the "crazy" charge irrelevant.

Also, Rove would lie his ass off, even under oath.

[Silverhair]

12. Don't get your hopes up.

I seem to remember protesters trying this sort of thing before. Especially in the late 60s & early 70s. Don't get your hopes up.

[Atman]

13. You keep forgetting something...

...and this is the big, recurrent "something" that will be the death of America...

That "something" is that it requires a balance of government, with checks and balances, to get these guys to even honor a subpeona. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. Who's gonna make them? Has Cheney complied with his subpeonas yet?

Face it people, we are screwed. To hell with the presidency...I think it has already been delivered to Bush...04 will be another formality, a show for the people to make us think we still live in a democracy.

We instead need to focus on the Congress. Take the power to ignore the will of the people away from the Republicans. It is the only way we will survive, otherwise, the republican controlled congress will bolster its position via republican-flavored legislation which the republican courts will rubber stamp. Turning over Congress is far more important than getting rid of Bush. At least, if the Congress went dem, we could impeach Bush.

Think about it.

[dmkinsey]

15. Congress???

House districts are drawn to protect incumbents. Sending Bush back to Texas may be really hard work but taking the House is actually impossible.