The Democratic Party is Finished!

[doubles]

UNLESS we put a stop to hate radio!

My friends, the Republicans have a free 24/7 advertisement from Hanniity/Oreily/Savage/Limbaugh/North/Boortz/Keyes, the list goes on.
We could have a JFK like candidate, and they will destroy him. If Martin Luther King were alive today, hate radio would attack and destroy Dr King! Even in his grave, they attack him as a womanizer and plagiarist! The public is being brainwashed, they will not question the lies. Throw enough mud and some will stick, the brainwashing is inevitable. The scary part of it is this is free to them! This is serious my friends, we must find some legal avenues to stop talk radio from turning this country into a one party system?

Corporate America will not support us. When I lived in the SF Bay Area, Bernie Ward was better than all of these jokers but they moved Ward from a prime time slot to a 10 pm slot, replaced by some libertarian joke, worse yet, in our Bay Area! We just lost Donahue. Let's face it, corporate America loves hate radio, they support their minimum wage agenda, lack of environmental regulation, minimum health coverage, anti union, discriminatory (no Jesse Jackson), no taxation practices, the list goes on, corporate America prefers to advertise and support these criminals. They don't like us! What could we do to stop this?

If we don't win come 2K4, I am really afraid our party might be doomed as there is no recovery with another 4 years of this. Hate radio is the only way Al Gore (outside of running a stupid campaign and distancing Big Dawg) could have lost a selection after the most prosperous economic expansion in US history and peace time.

What do we do? We are losing too many elections. We MUST have a plan of action to combat this! Sorry to sound so despondent.

[JVS]

1. Maybe we should invest in some jamming machines

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

4. that's an interesting idea

:evilgrin:

[OldSoldier]

56. You can't jam a transmitter

You can only jam receivers, and you'd need to jam a shitload of them to have an impact.

The only way to knock out a transmitter is artillery, like getting the snake oil manufacturers that sponsor hate radio shut down.

[Bandit]

76. That has my vote.

As Bush* says "We are at War"

[QC]

2. Clark wants to revive the Fairness Doctrine.

That would be an excellent start.

[kodi]

9. sure is, right wing radio and tv are invaluable to the efforts of the GOP

with no balance involved in the presentation of the information, there is only a single perspective.

[ochazuke]

12. yeSS!

It would be more than an excellent start, it would totally destroy the right-wing's domination of the airwaves. The worst that could happen is that there's equal time between left and right.

[RetroLounge]

47. Fantastic Idea.

Anyone know the other candidates views on reviving the Fairness Doctrine?

[SeveneightyWhoa]

3. I was certain..

..that this was another Zell Miller thread.
Oh well, Zell can't "win" 'em all!

[A HERETIC I AM]

5. bear in mind large percentage of listeners to those shows listen because

they like being pissed off by them!! I am one of them. If the ratings are correct, and what i have heard is right, up to a half of Rush's listeners are progressives like us and listen in order to "Know thine enemy". Same with Fox and the rest. I watch Hannity and Colmes because Sean Hannity is such a monstrous horses ass! Same with O'Reilly. Dont put too much stock in ratings for right wing pundits and blowhards. They are like train wrecks and car crashes. You just HAVE to slow down for a look.

[doubles]

8. I left the Bay Area and now live in Georgia...

Trust me, these idiots on radio are influencing the people here and brainwashing them like nothing you will ever imagine, just listening to people on the job quoting Hannity makes me puke. You cannot ignore this brainwashing power, not everyone has your intelligence to laugh at it and "slow down for a look".

Respect

[A HERETIC I AM]

26. fair enough

i try constantly to keep my head out of the sand. Your point is well taken

[lfairban]

77. In Georgia . . .

. . . brainwashing can be done in a thimble.

Very sweet people though.

[pstokely]

10. the problem is

a lot of liberals who listen to hate radio don't pay attention to the sponsors or boycott them

[lynndew2]

13. If you really listen, as I have from time to time

All of them I have listened to praised JFK and Martin Luther King. Rush has played JFKs speeches many times with adoration. O'Rielly which I cant even listen too for entertainment. His voice makes me sick. He says Robert Kennedy is his hero. They have also praised Martin Luther King often as seeing the world as it should be. I am not defending any of them for the views they have now. Just letting you know that they have praised the Democrats of that era. They are mean and divisive about who we are now (very mean and devisive). But they do respect some of our past leaders.

[doubles]

15. Listen long enough and you will hear them demonizing

Dr. King, I've heard it from a number of them, the only time they will praise a Democrat is an attempt to appear 'moderate'!

Well, it seems, some of us think they are our friends, obviously we do not understand the brainwashing power of this free advertisement. Dean would loose all his money less than a week if he advertised for the same period.

[lynndew2]

18. Hate to say it but, Not True

I have heard them praise(and I mean praise) JFK, Martin Luther King, and It was either o'rielly or hannity (I dont listen that often) that said Bobby Kennedy was their hero. I dont think any of them want to appear to be moderate. (you know they will never try to be moderate ) But they have praised these past Democrat leaders.

[tom_paine]

60. Yes, I heard that disgusting lie from O'Reichley

You believed it? From an inveterate liar?

WHAT exactly do you think O'reichley loved about Bobby Kennedy (notice he NEVER mentions that)...

...perhaps his "Viva La Causa" support of unions and farmworkers?

...his friendship and support of affirmative action-type steps for the African-American community?

...or maybe it was his desire to enforce environemntal regulations and create new ones?

Please. These people lie. They lie all the time. That is the language they speak.

And of course you KNOW, just ABSOLUTELY KNOW what O'Reichley's answer would be if someone asked him exactly what he liked about RFK?

"Are you questioning me? You don't believe me? You aren't being fair to me! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!"

[ForestsBeatBushes]

63. You are correct, lynndew2.

IMHO, JFK's speeches are played because, mythology to the contrary, he was not a liberal democrat. The "ask not" line is about patriotism when you come right down to it. Also, has anyone heard of the 1962 Cuban missile crisis? ...on the brink...

As to O'Reilly; I certainly agree with you on not being able to listen to him. What an arrogant, affected ass! Some of his mannerisms also drive me up the wall. I would imagine his reference to Bobby Kennedy as his hero refers to the 'early' Bobby. That one served on the wrong side in HUAC and ruthlessly went after unions. The 'later' Bobby, the one with such promise, the one they had to assassinate; now, him, I doubt O'Reilly likes one bit.

As to the Reverend King, because it was a different time, they do pervert his message and 'act as if' they admire him. Closer to his assassination, Dr. King was becoming more anti-war and more radical in his thinking. He also had the power to unite. Therefore, his assassination was 'necessary' for them...as the 'later' Bobby's was. I doubt they refer to his evolution anymore than to Bobby's.

My 2 cents.

[Code_Name_D]

75. Corection, they play the filterd version.

And what they do play gets distorted. For example, the only thing of MLKjr they wil play, will be his "I Have a Dream speach" and a few other speaches that share the same theam.

However, you will never evre hear them play MLKjr's Veitnam speach, which was the last speach he gave before he was killed. (And some say, the resone why he was killed :tinhat: ) They wount play it, becase it is also critical of the Iraq war for the exact same resones are in play for both. And King called it.

The only thing that is sacrade to the right wing spin, is Bush, and their own egoes.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

81. Thanks for correction - I've been neglecting my R/W radio!

[midwest_lurker]

6. feet in mouths are good

let 'em talk. seriously for at least 2 reasons: the priciple, and feet in mouths are good. flashlights on cockroaches provided by the cockroaches. the 'middle' doesn't listen.

[Scaramouche]

7. Ever notice the correlation with the rise AM Talk Radio...

and the rise in Road Rage? Did'nt the Publicans stop a bill that required FM radios be installed in new cars back in the late 80's?

[kentuck]

11. Only when they team up with the visual media...

The Democratic Party must have equal representation on at least one of these mediums...

[RuB]

14. The Democratic Party is not in minority status because of hate radio

but because of ideas. That scares the hell out of minority Democrats. You shrink the number of people voting and energize your side with issues that get them to the polls and walla you win. Democrats fall into the trap and all they can do is complain.

[raysr]

16. Dems

Why don't all the Dem supporters who are rich(Streisand etc.)put up some money to get some of this stuff off the ground? God knows they have more money than they could spend in ten lifetimes. I see them donating to the "arts" and stuff like that when the country is being hijacked by the evangelists and Repugs. They won't be touched no matter how things go because they too, are part of the problem. Too few have too much!

[RuB]

20. Democrats were in control for 40 years. It could be a long time

for Democrats to be in the minority. Look at how the Republicans are able to manipulate the country through the media. Its unprecidented in our lifetime. There able to redistrict a whole state to give them more of a majority and the country doesn't question what the Republicans are doing but ridicule the Democrats!
And I don't envy the next Democratic president because Bushie has made the world a much more dangerous place and as we know the buck does not stop with him. But it will stop with the next Democratic president.

[lynndew2]

21. LOLOLOLOL. Like they care about you or I

They have thiers and thats all that matters. They care for the poor? NOT. They care if your working? Yes, if its doing the makeup for the movie. Will they spend a million to make an advertisment in the NYT? Will it make a difference? NO. Does it put thier name back in the headlines? A resounding YES!!!!! Will they put up thier money? YES, if it will contribute to book sales on the new book. Will they give it otherwise? Nope.

[Catbert]

22. Because the filthy rich "progressives"

like Streisand really don't give a shit about the rank-and-file. Streisand lives in her $10 bajillion mansion in Malibu writing her mindless letters and giving the likes of Hannity ammunition for how dopey progressives are. I wish she would would just shut the hell up.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

24. LOL as opposed to what? Filthy rich Republicans like Limpballs

the drug addict?

[Catbert]

25. Do you really think

she gives a rat's ass about the average folks in this country? Her and the other Hollywood elite talk a good line, but ask them to actually make any sacrifices for the progressive cause and they disappear.

Who were the Hollywood elite that "threatened" to leave the country if Bush was elected? I don't believe they are gone yet. They make real progressives look like kooks (at least thts what Rush tells his audience). After these assholes make all progressives look bad, how do we get moderates and centrists to vote for a progressive canidate? Without the center we do not stand a chance of winning the next election. I would rather they shutup since their mindless blathering (and total lack of action) make us all look bad.:mad:

[lynndew2]

29. That is what will happen Catbert. You are right.

They spend so many $$$$$$ but accomplish nothing, or worse make us look worse. They spend the money to go as far left as possible. Then they state a message that is well accepted here in DU. It isnt well accepted by the moderate democrats.

Celebrity, Seems that we think that will win the vote even if they dont agree with what we think. If they do agree then it has to be Gospel!!!

The celebraties that run to the left only run there cause they want money and movie sales. They know that movies that are wovie, songs that are wovie, and Their stardom will always make money.

Some cant make it as a comedium, Some want to try a radio station, and a tv station.

PLEASE JUST MAKE YOUR STATEMENTS ON THE STAGE!!!!!!

If you wanna start radio or TV It Wont Happen Before 2004. Start thinking canidates and anyone else who can make a difference

[tom_paine]

61. You repeat that Right-Wing spin verbatim, don't you?

Why is it that it is automatically left-wingers are assumed to be dishonest and have ulterior motives? But Right-Wing celebirties are assumed to be principled (like Ahnold?) automatically.

Actually it stink of propaganda and conditioning, the Right has acces to the finest propaganda machine the world has ever known, able to easily manufacture and inject such "conevntional wisodm" into what is laughably described as the National Dialogue.

I used to think as you did, back in the Days of the Old Republic when I had my head up my ass.

In fact, I am questioning whether or not you have ulterior motives...

[ForestsBeatBushes]

67. And speaking of 'back in the day'...

Remember when we had a left a center and a right?

This is not original thinking, but I believe bears repeating:

Now the right is center and the center is (left) liberal and so when we refer to today's right-wing, we are referring to something very close to fascism.

[tom_paine]

78. Yep, I do remember

And you are spot on in your assessment.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

83. Thank you.

I've seen your posts; the praise means a lot coming from you.

[Terwilliger]

45. uh huh

how much money have you given to progressive causes? how many fundraisers have you organized for AIDS research?

Streisand has money and an opinion, and just as much right as the right-wing twits do to express her opinion.

Why are you against that?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

65. I think you listen to TOO MUCH RUSH..here are Streisand's actual

contribtutions. Perhaps you need a few facts to go with your uninformed opinions.

http://www.barbrastreisand.com/foundationguidelines.html

THE STREISAND FOUNDATION GRANT GUIDELINES 2003-2004

Since its inception in 1986, The Streisand Foundation has made grants totaling nearly 13 million dollars. In the early years, we provided assistance to national organizations working on the preservation of the environment, voter education, the protection of civil liberties and civil rights, and nuclear disarmament.
In 1993, the Foundation added additional priorities and began focusing on women's, children's and youth-related issues. Under these new priorities, we provided assistance to an array of organizations, including those working on a national level to promote and protect women's rights and those working locally in Los Angeles to provide aid and enrichment programs to economically at-risk children.

The Foundation funds both general and project-specific support. Awards range from $1,000 to $25,000; the average award amount is between $10,000 and $20,000.

At this time, The Streisand Foundation only considers requests from United States based non-profit organizations that are working on a national level to promote and support:


Environmental issues
Women's issues including choice and health-related concerns
Civil liberties and democratic values
Civil rights and race relations
Children¹s and youth-related issues with a focus on the economically disadvantaged (Los Angeles-based only)
AIDS research, advocacy, service and litigation

[workenstiff]

42. Hollywood airheads should shut up

Amen, Catbert! ! !

All the conservative talking heads use them to scare people away. They do it because they Can Not beat us on the issues.

[Terwilliger]

44. oh...GREAT liberal sentiment there 'SHUT THE HELL UP'

sounds like O'Really to me

[newyawker99]

46. Hi Catbert!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[ForrestGump]

80. Sorry - catbert bit the big one

:D

Took him all of nine posts.

There is no joy in Freeperville.

:hi:

[Basurero]

52. Who taught you that? Rush Limpnoodle?

Barbra has done more than talk. She's spoken in public about the slander spewing from the radio. She's also contributed big money to help Democratic candidates.

[Name removed]

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[tom_paine]

62. You never answered the question

Millionaires like Limbaugh? O'Rechley and his brutal suburban upringing? Bill Bennett? Ann Coulter, scion of extreme wewalth?

No, no, I know what millionaires you are talking about...Michael Savage! No, George Will and his famous love of baseball PROVING he's just a regular guy! No, it's Chuck Krauthammer (and a more fitting name isn't possible for such a significasnt cog in a Nazi-style propaganda machine) you're talking about.

No, wait, it's Ahnold the Gropenfuhrer, because every regular guy has had plenty of experiene with fondling women and then using their extreme wealth and power to frightening them from speaking out.

(funny how Arnold never had the balls to fondle someone with MONEY and FAME!)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

66. WAKE UP and look at what she has done FOR ORDINARY FOLKS

Turn off Rush if you are TRULY committed to progressive causes and stop killing off the character of those who actually fund them.

You have GOOGLE. YOu could have looked for the truth yourself. You DIDN'T.

[ForestsBeatBushes]

68. Oh, thank you!

I should have gone through the entire thread before posting what turned out to be # 64. I still am sensitive, but posts like yours sure make my day.

BTW, Welcome to DU...and you know I really mean that!

:yourock:

[ForestsBeatBushes]

64. Okay, call me sensitive, but

several of these posts referring to the rich all list only a Jewish woman as an example. Barbra Streisand is not the only rich democrat in Hollywood. Some of the current actors are getting $10 - $25 million for each film.

So, as a Jew, I feel uncomfortable by the references to a Jew ONLY.

- sad rant over -

[Resistance Is Futile]

17. Broader issue

Strangling hate radio is part of a much bigger issue. The center/left must take back the language of politics from the extreme right. The extreme right has spent thirty years redefining the language of political discourse to suit their own ends. Effective opposition cannot exist in this environment because the ruling party can destroy any opposition message simply by redefining the language to change the meaning of the message. The mechinism at work here is that the ruling party denies the opposition the right to exist by denying the opposition the language it needs to make its message.

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml

Marginalizing hate radio is but one small part of taking back language.

[23skidoo]

19. Have you read Al Franken's new book?

While it can provide only limited consolation when compared with the juggernaut that is the conservative establishment, Al Franken's new book, "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them..." is somewhat heartening. Although I prefer Chompsky, Franken provides what is probably the best mainstream attack on everything from the myth of liberal media to the lying machinations of O'Rielly and his ilk. Maybe, if we're lucky, intelligent liberals like Franken will find a foothold outside of the comedy industry, and we can get some genuine left-wing media.

[whirlygigspin]

23. broacast radio

We need to buy or set up transmitters to cover the red areas
with some alternative radio.

Pacifica comes to mind. Sure, KGO has 50 000 watts and covers
part of the west, but if you live anywhere else, what is there
for people to hear?

Let's get Barbara S. and whoever you can think of who has the $
to invest and beef up the signals.

We need to get mike malloy a 100 000 watt transmitter.
How much would that cost? He could blanket the south.

I always beleive that if people are given correct information,
they we do the right thing.

Find me Barbara's email adress, this is worth doing.

Let's do this

[Name removed]

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[Scaramouche]

30. Catbert, I take it you don't like Barbara...

Or Unions, or Kucinich, or dumb looking progressives?

That should cover your handfold of posts...

You gotta get with the program:

Right words:
-Lyar
-Thief
-Invasion

Wrong words:
-Elites
-Rush Limbaugh

Work on it and you might fit in....

[ForestsBeatBushes]

71. Right F'ing On!

What is with this "Barbra as symbol" crap? Okay, I'll be quiet now.

[newyawker99]

48. Hi 23skidoo!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[ForestsBeatBushes]

70. Al Franken

should be Press Secretary for the 2004 incoming democratic president, IMHO.

[ronzo]

28. Go here, contact your stations. This one's ready to go.

Here's my obligatory plug for Randi Rhodes.

Click me.

[HootieMcBoob]

54. Thank you for posting that.

Randi's available for syndication folks. Badger your radio stations with the same intensity that the right wing badgered CBS and maybe there will be some liberal radio to counter the right wing goon squad.

[Name removed]

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[ronzo]

32. Later, Gator...

:dunce:

[ComerPerro]

33. What? You mean telling Skinner to fuck off can get you tombstoned?

I had no idea

:dunce:

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[ronzo]

35. You obviously are not aware of the "average" demographic here.

You're mistaken.

[Name removed]

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[ronzo]

37. some pig.

[Lexingtonian]

38. dftt

(don't feed the trolls)

Hi, demi!

[ronzo]

39. I don't make it a habit.

But the clock's ticking.

Who's demi?

[Lexingtonian]

40. I wish Ashton Kutcher would say that.

Then I could have Demi (Demitria is her given name, it's Greek) Moore all to myself, harharhar.


No, the fellow you were replying to was posting as 'demi4life' before this. Same spelling, same harangues, same account opening date, posting at different times. Yes, people do this.

[ronzo]

41. gotcha.

edit: How often does this guy show up?

[Q]

43. You don't seem to understand the relationship...

...between the Republicans and RWing media. They actually work FOR the Republican party and they're not 'free'. Right Wing Talking Head Pundits are paid millions for their services.

- Ollie North, for example, became a millionaire for keeping his mouth shut about the Reagan Gang.

- I think you're quite naive if you thought Gore ran a 'stupid' campaign. Getting more votes than the other guy is actually the point of elections. It's strange that your rant said nothing about the widespread election fraud and the supreme court.

[xchrom]

49. tip of the iceberg

millions and millions of american citizens are just, plain and simple, brutish and ignorant.
while i agree that a media to counter the right wing media conglomerates is needed -- more liberals need to get real about who they are living with. no liberal media counter weight is going to change that.
unless a concerted effort by all leftists, greens, dems, anti-wto folk is made to re-educate the vast american citizenry then just a media outlet alone will do very little.
there is a ''civil-war'' afoot here -- and a comprehensive strategy is whats needed.

[HootieMcBoob]

55. that's just part of the comprehensive strategy

the strategy wouldn't be "comprehensive" without a liberal media counterweight.

[xchrom]

84. i was thinking about

the education some liberals need as much as anything else -- but you are right, mr/ms. mcboob

[Best_man23]

50. RW Radio counters the argument of the "liberal media"

Every time a repug argues about the "liberal media," all I do is ask them the following:

"Name three nationally syndicated liberal radio talk show hosts."

Kills their argument almost everytime.

[doubles]

79. Yeah, the same liberal media that canned the Reagan series....

[Snellius]

51. Fairness doctrine or a drug-testing program?

All radio talk-show hosts should be given a daily drug screening for illegal substances, including excessive sugar intake and caffeine consumption. Whenever these guys get on tv, where we can see what they really look like, they always bomb. Why? Probably because, hidden behind a microphone, they are all wigged out of their minds.

[msmcghee]

53. It's early here - what a way to start the day.

Just read the posts down to here. Don't think I've ever seen several trolls in such a well coordinated attack. I guess the title of the thread drew them in like cockroaches to a bagel on the kitchen floor.

Good morning all (except the cockroaches).

:donut:

[JNelson6563]

57. Yes, we sat around while they achieved their

little revolution. snug and secure that Aemrica would never be hoodwinked by their hate-mongering. We forgot how fearful and easily lead Americans are. Easily manipulated.

Now we are pulling our heads out of our asses. TV? Gone, we'll never achieve the voice the Rs have there. Radio either, though we need to keep trying. No the way to go is the internet. We need to OWN it. While those who rely on Radio die off more make their way to the net.

Of course a little unity among Democrats might help but with what I see here at DU--behavior so vicious Rush might blush--I won't count on that one either.

Julie

[ForestsBeatBushes]

73. A little unity among Democrats might

indeed help...it would also render my Will Rogers' sig line meaningless and that would be a good thing.

Sometimes I feel as if the trolls who were here yesterday are a micrcosm of the larger troll population who seem to find ways to divide us on wedge issues.

Someone here has the screen name of 'Can't We All Just Get Along"; now, I know where it came from and I know it's somewhat naive; however, we have got to pull together to take back the country.

People, Dubya and his band have brought us close enough to hell for me; he MUST be defeated in 2004!


edit for spelling error - sorry

[Scott Lee]

74. True - but why unify under failure?

Better, I think, to clean out the pipes and revivify the party. Dean has given us an excellent opportunity.

Are we going to take it, or continue the petty dissemblence games of his detractors?

[tom_paine]

59. Someone should start Radio Free America...

But know this, the Busheviks will come down on you in very much the same fashion as rougue broadcasters trying to battle to Old Soviet Union government.

We have entered the Soviet Phase of the Amerikan Empire, and the Busheviks are well-known to be merciless in their destruction of enemies or anyone who dares speak the truth.

Hey, at least they are "kinder and gentler" (only because tey ahve to be, I think, for the moment, and because we are a nation bristling with guns) this time around.

[Vogon_Glory]

69. If Progressive Issues Won't Be Addressed, Then

If the Democratic Party continues to lose, the issues we Democrats are concerned about won't go away, any more than the conditions that caused them will disappear. Eventually, there will be a reaction to Republican greed, arrogance, and callousness, and it won't be very pretty.

Eventually someone is going to pick up the ball with the issues of structural unemployment, deteriorating infrastructure, social inequality, a miserable public education system, and the effects of gutted pollution controls and run with it. If the Democratic Party continues to weaken, the insurgents are likely to have a far darker mindset.

Personally, I suspect that whatever could replace the Democratic Party would have a far more ruthless, authoritarian mindset. It would have such a mindset because its leaders saw what happened to honest electioneeering, open debate, and fair play. The next generation would probably have the party discipline of a Falangist party, and would probably have ruthless enforcers and party toughs that haven't been seen on these shores since the Civil War.

I fear that the GOP is turning the USA into another banana republic. Eventually, they're going to find that they may have created an American Peron or an American Chavez.

Of course such a movement will make life difficult for surviving Democrats, too, but I confess I'd enjoy watching a Sean Hannity getting tarred and feathered, an Ann Coulter getting her head shaved, and a Michael Savage getting a castor oil special.

When the beleagured GOPsters of the future come to me to plead with me to "help save the American Republic," I look forward to spitting in their eye.

[info being]

72. Someone should start a show called "Hate Haters"

Which mocks and calls out what's wrong with the hate-mongerer's positions. It should be entertaining...show all their contradictions and inaccuracies, etc., etc.

[joe_sixpack]

82. Most folks who listen

and respond to talk radio are conservative anyway. I mean, I can't imagine a liberal or even independent who would be swayed just by listening to that stuff. I think most of the listeners harbored negative feelings about dems or libs in the first place and are just happy to have found a place that echoes their misguided feelings.