Fact-Checking the Right-Wing Mothers (FREEPERS) (HAVE SOME FUN!!)

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Al Giordano at Big, Left, Outside would like for someone who can post to FreeRepublic to paste the text in his post "Fact-Checking the Right-Wing Motherf*ckers" in full and ungarbled so that we can all sit back, watch, and laugh, at the responses. I've included a few clips from his website below. You can read the entire text at http://www.bigleftoutside.com/

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Fact-Checking the Right-Wing Motherf*ckers

...Anyway, Franken comments in this book that he wants to title his next bestseller: I Fucking Hate Those Right-Wing Motherfuckers!

A post I saw this morning (thanks to Jules Siegel for the tip) over at FreeRepublic.com that hacks up my blog entry of yesterday about President Chávez going to Bolivia's Chapare region into unintelligible cut-and-paste copy brought the term "Right-Wing Motherfuckers" to mind.

A Right-Wing Motherfucker with the handle of "Southhack" - who, on his Free Republic home page says, among other gems, "Joe McCarthy Was Right" (somehow I imagine he's keeping a copy of Ann Coulter's latest work by the bedside), and who has a flag that only Howard Dean could love on the upper corner of his webpage, reposted some of my words on FreeRepublic with a new title: Hugo Chavez Goes To Bolivia (Seeking to start a South American Narco War).

Siezing on Chávez's very peaceful and diplomatic urgings that Chile and Perú grant seaport access to the landlocked country of Bolivia, Southhack writes:
Chavez is clearly agitating for a large South American war/empire, siding with the Communist insurgents and narco-mafia in his attempt to build a union strong enough to cause problems for the U.S.

Fact-Check:

* Talk by Chávez, by Brazilian President Lula de la Silva, by Argentine President Nestor Kirchner, and so many others, of a South American Union, is no more "agitating for... war/empire" than, say, the efforts across the Atlantic to form a European Union (or, for that matter, the Uniting by 13 colonies into United States so many years ago).

* Southhack is confused about the term "narco-mafia."

* Coca growers are not narcos or mafiosos. They are peasant farmers who have used the plant for food, medicine, and worship for thousands of years.

* The narco-mafia exists, but is captained by US bankers (who launder the drug money), US government agencies (who pick and choose which "narcos" they help by eliminating or hurting their competitors, usually on tips from informants inside competing drug organizations that bank with US financial institutions), puppet regimes like that of Colombia's Narco-President Alvaro Uribe (read the link for the facts to back up that opinion) and, bada-boom, as one FreeRepublic poster notes later in that thread, paramilitaries like the AUC in Colombia, which conduct massacres against unarmed civilians and traffic cocaine with impunity and protection from the US and Colombian governments.

All of those claims I make in counter to Southhack's post are deeply documented in three-and-a-half-years of reports on Narco News.

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1. Have some fun with the freepers.

[DUreader]

2. This will get locked if you don't eliminate the 'profanity'

[pruner]

3. change the subject or this thread is gonna get locked

profanity is not allowed in the subject line

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4. Done. Thanks!!

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5. kick

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6. I hate to break it to you

but the FARC is by far the largest drug mafia in South America. Ever since the fall of the Medellin Cartel and pablo escobar, they have been the largest cocaine traffickers in the world. They are also the world's most prolific kidnappers and hostage takers, as well as brutal killers who massacre peasants with regularity. On top of that, their organization is totalitarian (in other words, we are not dealing with social democrats, but hardcore stalinists).
Cocaine is illegal in Colombia. It kills people. It fuels some of the most savage organized crime empires in the world.
The AUC is not 'protected' by Colombia, and Uribe for some reason is demonised on this board while Chavez always gets a free pass. Uribe is extremely popular in columbia, and if he has wrongdoing, like being associated with illegal militas or drug traffickers, well chavez has the same stigma attached as well. Chavez has reported links to Drugs, mafias, and his own private paramilitary, which is used on the people in venezuela. he may well have associationsx with FARC and ELN and other terrorist groups.

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7. Sounds like Freeperland to me...

Got LINKS?? I'd really love to see links to back up the your Bushie-like remark: Chavez has reported links to Drugs, mafias, and his own private paramilitary, which is used on the people in venezuela. he may well have associationsx with FARC and ELN and other terrorist groups.

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U.S. General Dismisses Allegations of Venezuelan Government Links with Colombian Guerrillas and Arab Terrorists

In an interview published today by The Miami Herald, U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Benjamin R. Mixon, dismissed recent reports that suggest links between the Venezuelan Government and Colombian guerrillas, and that the Chavez administration is providing assistance to Arab terrorists from the Middle East and other terrorists.

Gen. Benjamin R. Mixon serves as director of operations at the Pentagon's U.S. Southern Command (Southcom) located in Miami. He recently acted as deputy chief of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

A recent U.S. News & World Report article claims that President Hugo Chavez is “flirting with terrorism.” The article cites "unnamed U.S. government sources,” claiming that the Venezuelan Government is providing identity cards to Arab radicals, which can then be used to enter the U.S. and carry out terrorist attacks in North American territory. The article, titled “Terror Close to Home,” by Linda Robinson, appeared in the October 6 issue of U.S. News and World Report also accuses the Chavez administration of being host to Cubans operating inside Venezuela's paramilitary and intelligence apparatus.

"I have no reason to believe that," said Mixon to the Miami Herald, adding that they have no details about which borders terrorists are crossing.

"We certainly don't have any information that they are being supported by any other government in the region," the general said.

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1060

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Venezuela Invites US Officials to see Results of Investigations of Alleged Links to Guerrillas

Venezuelan Ambassador to the United States Bernardo Alvarez, sent a letter to members of the Subcommittees of International Operations, to Representatives of the U.S. Senate, and to other officials of the American government, to clarify several acusations against the Venezuelan government done by some Colombian newspapers.

"My country has been falsely accused of sheltering terrorist activities against Colombia in our territory, of supporting Colombian guerillas, and, by innuendo, it has even been suggested that there is some form of alliance between the Venezuelan government and Colombian subversives. This campaign has manipulated and misrepresented facts and has created false impressions and negative opinions about Venezuela," Alvarez said.

According to Alvarez, the Venezuelan government has investigated several of the allegations, and he invited the U.S. officials meet in order to discuss their concerns and the results of those investigations.

The Ambassador also asked members of the Subcommittees of International Operations, to eliminate SEC. 687 in the Foreign Operations Appropriations Bill (HR2800) on the grounds that the way it is drafted, suggests that the Venezuelan government could be “assisting, harboring, or providing sanctuary for Colombian terrorist organizations.”

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1092

[DUreader]

8. Sadly, it is not Freeperland, The US propaganda is so thick re:

our South and Central American brothers and sisters that many liberals

and progressives have no clue.

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9. Brainwashed, Bushwacked, and Bamboozled in

the good ol' US of A. Is it any wonder we have Bushista for a pResident?

Ignorance of the facts is only an excuse for grade school kids. ;-)