ALago1
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:25 PM
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Donna Brazile spoke at my school last night re:dem candidates for 2004 |
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It was a pretty short speech, giving her opinion on what kind of chances each respective Democrat has. She grouped them according to 3 tiers:
The "Hello,Goodbye" tier;Basically those with no chance The "Waiting to Exhale" tier; those wavering in the middle whose campaign will need to gain more steam to garner the nomination. and the "Most Likey to Succeed" tier; those currently most likely to win the nomination.
She deemed Sharpton, Kucinich and Braun as parts of the lowest tier, saying they had no money, well organized campaign, or "credible message" (this made me think wtf?)
Lieberman, Edwards, and Clark were grouped in the middle. Said that Lieberman only had recognition at this point b/c of his Gore association, while Edwards and Clark had a good message, but no real campaign steam (again made me scratch my head)
Kerry, Dean, and Gephardt were grouped as "Most likely to succeed". She said most of the people who supported Gore support Kerry, while Gephardt has a stronghold on the union type crowd. She said Dean has been "in the drivers seat ever since the spring" and has "the only campaign with wings" and a great fundraising ability.
My conclusions: I would take Kerry out of the top tier and switch him with Clark. I really don't know why she said that Clark had no effective campaign, nor do I know why she said Kucinich, Braun, and Sharpton had no "credible message".
Overall, the speech was mediocre, albeit free.
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:29 PM
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She's a bit to cozy with Karl Rove for my taste. Anyone who is cozy with Rove has to be suspect in my opinion.
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:40 PM
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3. Slander with no link to back it up? |
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and accusing someone of being cozy with Rove is slander.
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:51 PM
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8. It's not slander it's widely reported. |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 01:53 PM by liberal_veteran
But since you mistrust my intentions and slander me, here's a link. http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Mar/03162003/nation_w/38863.asp"Few would suspect that Rove regularly trades tips with Donna Brazile, Al Gore's 2000 campaign manager; she tells Rove how Bush's proposals are faring among Democrats, while Rove makes sure her clients are included in White House events." Your apology will be accepted.
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:42 PM
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Don't trust her intentions. She sold herself to the corporate media which means you toe their line.
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:48 PM
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http://members.cox.net/fweil/NYT030221.htmThough I realize, Kit Seelye, herself being in the pocket of the Busheviks, is herself suspect. Who can tell what is true and what is not in the rapidly Sovietizing (informationally-speaking) Bushevik Amerikan Empire.
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Fri Nov-07-03 02:02 PM
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I've spoken to Donna Brazile and she is one committed Democrat. She is anything but a GOP sympathizer.
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Fri Nov-07-03 02:05 PM
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15. Playing quid pro quo with Rove doesn't encourage my confidence. |
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:30 PM
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2. She has allied herself with Rove.... |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 01:31 PM by hlthe2b
they are best "telephone buddies..."
So, I can't give any credence to anything she says. Sadly, another Democratic sellout, it appears to me.... (and, I'd like to be wrong on this).
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:40 PM
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4. Slander with no link to back it up? |
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and accusing someone of being cozy with Rove is slander.
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:54 PM
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11. Gee, I guess acusing Bush of being a republican without a link... |
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..would be slander in your book.
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:54 PM
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She's a pawn of the DLC. I despise the way she turned on Al Gore after the last election - She back stabbed him when he was down. She's not on the side of any liberal democrat, she stands completely with the DLC and you know where that's gotten us the past few years.
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Fri Nov-07-03 02:05 PM
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16. I heard her with my own ears |
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say that she's friends with Rove on C-Span and that they have lunch together. I do understand why people don't trust her I know I don't.
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Fri Nov-07-03 02:28 PM
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17. She has herself discussed that She and Rove talk |
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frequently by phone-- no slander there.....
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Fri Nov-07-03 02:31 PM
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18. Gee, Rub... quick to accuse DUers of "SLANDER...." |
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Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 02:46 PM by hlthe2b
like anyone else we know?.......
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:51 PM
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7. At least she's not pushing Lieberman anymore. |
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:52 PM
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9. This is how I would rank it |
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Bottom tier: No chance
1) Sharpton 2) Braun 3) Kucinich (1% and falling)
Middle tier: Have some support, but need something big to happen
1) Edwards 2) Lieberman 3) Gepthardt
Top tier: One of which almost certainly will be the nominee
1) Dean 2) Clark 3) Kerry
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Fri Nov-07-03 01:53 PM
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10. My 'read' is the same. |
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Switch Clark and Kerry, and that's the way it's lined up.
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Fri Nov-07-03 02:00 PM
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13. Thanks for the Link Liberal Veteran |
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I think that more than proves the point that she stinks. How anyone on our side could be friends with Rove is disgusting. That man is a monster and she knows it.
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Fri Nov-07-03 02:46 PM
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19. I disagree with her on Clark |
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