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GSCNEWS Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 06:57 PM
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Info on Al Gore's Big Speech Sunday
This is from MOVEON:

Dear MoveOn Member,

In June, twenty thousand MoveOn members interviewed each other by phone to help us explore the values underlying our work together. One striking theme emerged: the deep concern Americans have with the Bush administration's attacks on our cherished liberties, in the name of security. Since June, we've been looking for a powerful way to respond to this clear mandate, and when former Vice President Gore asked us to co-host a policy address on Freedom and Security, we jumped at the chance.

You are invited to view this important speech on Sunday, November 9 at 2pm EASTERN by web cast, or on Link TV. In Washington DC, this event will be attended by local MoveOn members and by members of our partner in this effort, the American Constitution Society. Unfortunately, all seats for the event are filled. But we encourage you to tune in this Sunday, at 2pm Eastern, by going to:

http://www.moveon.org/gore/webcast.html

The program will be broadcast live on Link TV, the national television network available on DIRECTV (channel 375) and DISH Network (channel 9410). C-SPAN will likely broadcast the speech as well, as long as another news event doesn’t supercede the speech on Sunday.

In this, his third major speech on the Administration's response to terrorism, Mr. Gore will describe the Administration's assault on our civil liberties as un-American and will charge that the Bush/Ashcroft attack on the Constitution is actually a smokescreen that obscures the Administration’s fundamental failure to meaningfully protect our national security, and that their efforts have weakened rather than strengthened America.

In August, Mr. Gore delivered a speech sponsored by MoveOn that opened a space for other leaders to speak out against the Bush Administration's deliberate use of false impressions to mislead the nation on war, taxes, the economy and the environment. That speech did nothing less than shift the terms of the national debate, and we expect this speech to have as big an impact.

Again, here are the details:

Al Gore Speaks on Freedom and Security
Sunday, November 9, 2:00 pm Eastern
Webcast: http://www.moveon.org/gore/webcast.html
Broadcast: Link TV and possibly C-SPAN

See you there.

Sincerely,

--Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack
The MoveOn.org Team
November 7th, 2003


PS: We're cosponsoring this event with the American Constitution Society. ACS is a national organization of law students, lawyers, academics, judges, and policymakers committed to restoring the values of human dignity, individual rights and liberties, equality, and access to justice to their rightful, central place in American law. ACS is leading a rapidly growing movement to counter the Federalist Society and other promoters of today's dominant conservative vision of American law and public policy.
Visit ACS at: www.acslaw.org

Link TV broadcasts to more than 21 million US homes a 24-hour mix of documentaries, international news and critical issues not covered by mainstream media. For more information on rebroadcast times go to www.linktv.org.

For more info: http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:05 PM
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1. Go Al!
Thanks for being our modern Thomas Paine.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:26 PM
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2. If any of you have the "Link" channel, please tune in
Al will not dissappoint. There will be thousands there. It will be one for the ages!
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:42 PM
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3. Wonder if he'll endorse?
Word is, he's in Dean's camp. But there's the Lieberman factor. So who knows.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:47 PM
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5. Trust me, I know most of everything Gore does and will do
because of my site and my involvement in the draft effort and he will proabably not endorse anyone soon. If he did, he wouldn't endorse Dean.
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:11 PM
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12. No
Trust ME my friend. He IS in Dean's camp. And word is Tipper is gah gah over Dean.

I think I will bookmark this thread just to remind you just how much you DON'T know, when he DOES endorse.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. Uh no,
I along with others know that he will not endorse Dean. As a matter of fact I will be speaking with Al next Tuesday. So I think I will trust my sources.
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:37 PM
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14. Good!!! When you see him, can you get some CAJONES and...
can ask him how he--as the only Dem who has any REAL shot of beating Shrub--why he's letting us ALL DOWN and not running.

I would campaign for him, my cat would campaign for him, even my 87 year old grandmother would campaign for him. It's his for the taking, all he has to do is stand up like a MAN.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:20 AM
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23. I think he's going to endorse Dean, too
After Kerry insulted Gore twice, I don't see Gore endorsing him. Dean worked very closely with the Clinton Administration when they were trying to get Universal Health Care. Dean also got a seat right behind Hillary during one of Clinton's state of the union speeches. You only get to sit in that section if you're close to the administration. Dean has had nothing but good things to say about and respect for Gore. Time will tell...
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:58 AM
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22. Believe me Gore has received 'The Phone Call' and it's ONLY about
his endorsement now. He's also had his ass kicked enough to protect his self interests in this arena. And you're right he has no thought of aligning himself with Howard Dean.

Dean '04...
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:52 PM
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32. Why wouldn't Gore endorse Dean?
The bastards that the DLC that are trying to kill Dean's campaign are the same people who wouldn't back Gore, forcing him to withdraw. The best revenge Al can get would be to see Dean prevail. Dean is much more likely to implement the policies that Gore wants than any of the DLC controlled candidates.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. It is widely known that Gore would be the stop Dean
candidate. He and Dean agree on very little. So why would he endorse him?
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #3
39. Who would he endorse?
Who would Clinton endorse too?
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:47 PM
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4. Can anybody answer as to WHY this scaredy-cat refuses to run again?
He'd win, I'm sure, but he won't even try. I've lost SOOOOOOOO much respect for him. If he's not running, I really don't care what he has to say anymore.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:52 PM
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6. Deleted message
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I'm not a freeper, I'm a liberal Democrat(life-long)
And I honestly want to know!
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Exactly!
I think it is pathetic of how some Democrats here treat Gore.
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:57 PM
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9. OhPlease, he is not the Messiah, he is a honorable man who refuses to run.
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 07:57 PM by 4323Lopez
WHY!
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 07:59 PM
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10. If everyone would have backed Gore during the recount, we wouldnt be
talking about this. He would have been in the White House. But polls showed 60% of people were calling for his concession. Where was the fight then? A little too late.
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Not good enough. There's a NEW election a year from today,
I'm Sure he has nothing better to do on his agenda than be the next President.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:07 PM
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15. That has been proven to have been a fake poll promoted by the
Repubs! Of course, I don't have the link for it (perhaps, Democrats.com?) but I remember reading here on DU and elsewhere that the rightwingers called every TV and radio station to pump up those fake polls that the American public wanted Al to concede to "prevent a Constitutional crisis"! What BS! I know I wrote many emails to Al begging him not to concede and to continue fighting, that we were all behind him and would support him. I remember Ed Rendell (the DNC chair at that time) also stating that Al should concede, even before the USSC handed down that infamous decision! I wrote to the DNC demanding that they fire him! I still have no respect for Ed Rendell because of that and also Joe Liberman did the same thing, stating that Al should concede to estop a Constitutional crisis. Baloney! We all sat quietly and let them get away with it and look what has happened to us since that fiasco!

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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:02 PM
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16. kickety kick! to get additional opinions on this subject!
:kick:

:kick:

:kick:

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Gingergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:26 PM
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17. Thanks for the information.
Gore is doing all he can to help defeat little george in 04. Note the MoveOn.org quote "That speech did nothing less than shift the terms of the national debate, and we expect this speech to have as big an impact."
It is interesting that he has had MoveOn.org sponsor two of his speeches. MoveOn was very prominent in fighting against the bush Iraq war. Gore has called for the U.S. to "extricate" ourselves from Iraq without causing further damage to Iraq. I have a feeling that this speech will be a knockout and will contain some surprises and it won't be an endorsement of any candidate.
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #15
46. Great reply, thanks !
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:22 AM
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41. Thanks for saying so !
Al Gore was left standing alone .The media was touting him as the loser contesting the election ? Where was all of his fellow Dems, they are the ones who need to grow a set ! Iam still convinced its not to late and that Gore will beat bush ,easily and then perhaps we can start being the America most of the world respected again ! I dont blame Al Gore for not entering the race this time ,I mean look what a lousey job bush is doing and yet he still seems to get a pass on everything ,that a Dem president would be facing impeachment over. Look at the piles of $ bush has for his 2004 re-election effort. I would do exactly what Gore is doing ,if the Dems want bush out bad enough and are willing to fight hard enough, Gore will step up to the plate and hit a home run. This time its going to be the people against corperate power and money ,not an easy fight to win ,and unless you have a united party thats behind you 100% , its a fight impossible to win .Wake up Dems ,our downward spiral will continue untill we say no to stolen elections and correct the one we already let get past us. Untill we take back from the repugs what they stole from us , we will be looked at as the spineless party of losers. I dont like when someone steals something , and I believe when you identify a theif you take what he has stolen and give it to the rightful owner .The victum should not have to fight that fight , the friends and supporters of the victum are suppose to do that, we all let Al Gore down in 2000 ! Now is the time to make things right ,we will Draft Al Gore to beat bush in 2004 ,and I cant wait for inaguration day . Imagine smirks face when the spoiled brat has to give back what he and his brother stole from Al Gore and the American people !
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:37 AM
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45. Your blaming the victum !
Its the spineless "fellow elected Dems" that let Al Gore and the voters down. Believe me Al Gore is far from a "scaredy cat" ! Perhaps he is to smart to let himself be victimized agin. No ,this time if the Dems want Al Gore ,they are going to have to prove they will go all the way , when the current thieves in office try to steal the election again ! Gore/Clark ,a Dem dream team !!!!!
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saoirse Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:40 PM
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18. Al Gore: Class Act
All - ALL - of his "major speeches" (since he won the 2000 election)have heralded big changes in the political reality of our country. So I, for one, will be paying close attention.

I think an endorsement at this point is, to put it mildly, "highly unlikely." It's waaaaaay too early, and Gore is too much a statesman to do something so unseemly. My hunch is that it has to do with the war, or less likely, the economy and the huge problem of unemployment.

I don't mince words when it comes to not suffering fools gladly, but if there's one thing that REALLY frosts me, it's the idiots who diss Gore for conceding to Bush - or not running in 2004. This man sacrificied the White House he won fair and square for the good of his country - and my hunch is that his country will repay him for his sacrifice before the final chapter in Al Gore's political biography is written.
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. I think the very fact that I question him means I am not a fool!
I think he'd make a GREAT president and I can't undertand why he's letting lesser men step up to replace what is rightfully supposed to be his next year! Let Bush have 4 years NOT 8, because thats what its going to be.

Man I don't care if a bottle of Soft-scrub runs, I'm voting for it. Anything to get rid of President Shrub! But, a lot of people will vote rep rather than an unknown dem. Gore is handing Bush the election over on a silver platter, can't you SEE that...and looking like a coward for not taking on that little man again.

Even if he does run again after George is out, it will always be a blemish on his career as to why he didn't take him on again!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #19
24. sorry I am not in the mood for explaining to someone who calls him names
why he is not running.... so short version. "It's the DLC stupid"

PS.. if you were interested in Gore running you wouldn't be calling him stupid names and you would know why he isn't running. Despite the mods pulling my post, you don't pass the smell test to me.
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #24
27. He's a candy boy.
He's an incredibly smart, eloquent candy boy. One who would make a good President, to be sure. But currently a coward candy boy none-the-less.
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Wickster Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:07 AM
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20. I feel the same
He is MY president who was set up to take a fall by the evil forces who have taken over our country. He sacrificed so much for the good of the country. And for the good of the country, the least I can do is support him if he runs or even if he doesn't run. In the meantime, if you get a chance check out http://www.draftgore.com.

One thing - I also would work for his re-election and I have never actively worked for any candidate before.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:09 AM
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21. I agree wholeheartedly on the Gore concession.
He was betrayed by the Establishment, and indeed by the public. I think he made what he considered to be the right choice for the country. And remember that he hung onto the fight until Bush v. Gore came down, by which time the entire establishment media were calling for his concession. Hard to fight all that, and for what? What kind of Presidency would he have had with all the wingnuts and media whortes screaming about his supposed illegitimacy in power?
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #18
42. KICK!!!!!!
.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:51 AM
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25. KKKreepers will be there with their foul hatred of America.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #25
26. omigod
Did you catch the freaker 'rules' for the pathetic handful who might show up?

"As usual, the D.C. Chapter's rules for protesting will be in effect.
Briefly, they are: No violence, no profanity, no racism, no provocations, obey the law and treat all law enforcement officers with respect."

No racism? They have to remind their three members not to be racists?

This pretty much says it all.


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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Gore is such a bore?
Someone needs to explain to them that his last speech was the most requested on CSPAN for like 2 straight weeks. All of his speeches are great and people love him. Gore will not endorse anyone tommorrow. Most people who are on the draft campaign believe he is slightly testing the waters before the Nov. 21st deadline for NH. If he doesnt announce, we will continue to try to draft him. We need him, the country needs him, democracy needs him! Come on Al!
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #28
29. Well this is encouraging news...
Geez, it took enough to get it out of you. ;)
Gore for 2004~maybe...!
Go Candy Go!
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:44 PM
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30. I have always supported Gore to run
Why do you think I have one of the biggest sites supporting him?
http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. Tough love!
If you truly care about him, kick his ass a little when you see him to shoo him onto the right path. Play rocky music anything..haha
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. lol
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #28
43. KICK!!!!!!
.
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:30 PM
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35. I guess this is my pet project for the day...
With Gore a giving speech tomarrow, at this moment, makes me think of the next election. I admit to NEVER having voted before this year, I'm 31, and quite embarrassed by the fact. I never saw the need, since I lived thru a wonderful productive Democratic presidency, and for the most part things have always seemed to go my way--except in the 80s but I was too young to care. I figured all would continue to vote my way. I was convinced Gore would be elected in the last election and continued with my apathy all thru the election process. Then, when Bush was elected, I watched til 3am and strangely cried and cried. It was like I had a premonition of the fall of the economy and backward slide of environmental issues to come. No matter how hard he tried he couldn't have taken it back from Bush, because the media had already put it in the American mindset that Bush won. I am Native American as well as Latina/Chicana and strongly believe "think seven generations ahead when making decisions" I disagree with Bush strongly on many issues and feel that any Democratic president would be better than him. I really wanted Gore to run again this time and win but was really disappointed that he fails to rise up to that challenge. Most of us look for that kind of incredible challenge our whole lives, here it is staring him in the face! If he doesn't face this one defining moment, his whole rest of his life will be "a could have been" Come on what's the worst that cold happen, he could lose, SO WHAT. At least he will have stood up to that little shrub, and he will have everyones complete and utter respect for trying again. Courage is a corner stone of real character along with integrity, honor and intelligence. What ever happened to the great Democratic leaders of the past, Kennedy, MLK JR., people had such great role models and orators then, how come there are no GREAT democratic leaders today! I wish I was a strong enough person to rise to the task and give great inspirational speeches like those I studied in college. They used to make me SO proud to be American. I am still proud to be American, but wish and pray for great blessed leaders to follow. I have pledged to myself to campaign for whichever Democrat candidate which comes out the strongest in this election. Anyone at this time is better than Bush. Blacks have long been associated with being Democrats and I HOPE and PRAY the new Largest minority in America, Latinos, come to be known as life-long Democrats also. Together we, THE SLEEPING GIANT, could wield A LOT of power. I was watching Smoke Signals once and that line that lady says about attending the Gathering of Nations in NM is true. She said "I wish we had been this organized when Columbus came" It rings true now, we have such power at our fingertips. If we could come together on issue that matter to us such as environmental issues, gun control, national health care, corporate welfare, ecomony, joblessness, etc. we would be quite a force to be reckoned with! Anyway, there's my peace for now. Come on Gore, the worst that could happen is people would respect you more than they do now.

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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. Hey, you sound like a Gore supporter!
We need more for our active community! We would love to have you at our forum! http://algoresupport.proboards19.com/index.cgi
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4323Lopez Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Always have been
and more or less always will be.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 07:00 PM
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38. Thanks for the info!
bump
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 10:31 AM
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40. i can't wait to see my president speak.
al gore is da' MAN!

were he to run, i would quit my job, and use my personal savings to live on and work full-time for his campaign for free.

i doubt anyone understands america and the pronblems it faces as well as al gore and i am still hoping for an open convention so that he can be nominated on the 2nd or 3rd ballot as a compromise candidate.

al gore has more class in the nail on his pinky than the entire bush family.

GO AL GO!
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NicRic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-03 11:29 AM
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44. You have class to !
Just for what you have said ,I would say you are a class act yourselve ! Its to bad that all Dems have not realized yet that our best chance to win in 2004 is Al Gore .I like the sound of Gore/Clark, take no chances ,bush must go in 2004 !
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