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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:00 PM
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My wife and I went to two Clark events in Atlanta...
We went to a fundraiser on Thursday night, and a rally this morning.

Good crowd at the fundraiser. About 300-400 people came to the pub/event facility at Piedmont Park. His address to the crowd was short, but effective. Some things he said (as I can recall, not direct quotes): He started by admitting up front, "I was a Republican". He went on to list the many things wrong with the GOP, and what he admired about Democrats. "I could have been the world's loneliest Republican, or become a Democrat."

"In his campaign, Bush said that he 'knew how to handle a surplus'. That's one promise he kept." He said that Bush, "will take credit, but not responsibility." General Clark is "deeply offended by what Bush is doing to the country." He made a funny military analogy about, "campaign logistics and refueling for New Hampshire" (their need for cash). Our donation gives us "C-Company" status, which is the fundraising arm of the campaign. We each got a cute pin with a Bold C and four stars. That means we get to sit at President Clark's table at one of the inauguration parties in 2005. Ha ha.

The next morning there was a High-Roller fundraiser. $250 minimum. Hopefully it was packed.

The rally later in the morning was on the campus of Georgia Tech, just a couple of blocks from my office. Warning bells went up for me when I heard this. Tech is enemy territory. Clinton and Gore have both been harassed there. I was right. Outside of the building were eight or so Bush supporters (Do representatives of the campaign show up for other candidates' events? Are they scared of Clark?). Not just Freeper types. These were clean-cut young men. Tech has an on-campus Bush support organization. They were not abusive, however. Quiet as we filed past them. The event was in a small auditorium and was totally filled and overflowing by the time we got there. I estimate around 1000 or so. The crowd went wild when Clark entered. I don't know if the assholes, uh...Bush supporters said anything to him outside. He started by telling us about visiting the family of one of the Chinook tragedy's victims. Very moving. Then he spoke in depth about why Iraq was a mistake. He told us how he would handle foreign policy (Too much detail to cover, but it was excellent stuff). One key thing he said was, "The military should Not be doing nation-building." He talked about how he would have the appropriate experts working on this. "Scientifically." He talked about how Iraqi oil belonged to the Iraqi people. He said that Iraq needs to rule itself as soon as possible, not be ruled by an American administrator.

At the end of his speech, he took a couple of questions. The first one was from a Bushie who was "incognito". I could not hear the question exactly, but it was about how Clark would handle the war against terrorism. Clark said that he would fight terrorists themselves to make American more secure. Bush is fighting states, not terrorists. He went on to say that he would cancel the Patriot Acts, and would investigate what Bush has been using it for (The crowd went nuts over this). It was a long and effective answer to the ass's question. The other question was about Education. Many details that escape my memory except: "He was a strong believer in public education" (Big round of applause!) and that he did not like the "no child left behind" program. He explained his problems with the failed program and what he would do instead.

Big energetic crowd. Very exciting.

Here are some grainy pictures taken with the mediocre digital camera built into my new phone.

General Clark at the fundraiser. (A night event, pretty dark)





Here are two shots of the overflowing crowd, outside the morning rally.




Likely suspects who you would expect to be holding a Bush banner. CBS was interviewing one of them, of course.




On the way out, I noticed that one of them had a hand lettered sign reading, "Vote Clark. Who says integrity is mandatory." I HAD to say something to him. I said, "Integrity! Are you kidding? A Four Star General vs. Fourteen Months AWOL. I can't WAIT until the debates!". His response, an audible sneer as he turned away.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:07 PM
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1. Thanks for the account
and the pictures too! :)

I'm glad he was able to handle that Bush idiot's question.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:07 PM
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2. I live in ATL also...If I wasn't so late getting in from DTW...
I would have gone to the event this morning as well.

I'm wearing my ANYONE BUT BUSH gear and the Bubbas and Bubbettes are giving me dirty looks.

They are also givin my dog dirty looks cuz he's wearing the baby bib as a doggie t shirt. He's just a 2lb chihuahua...what is he gonna do to them. Why r those assholes givin my lil dog dirty looks!

Good Show takin it to the Shrubies...

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:08 PM
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3. I'm glad he finally got honest about his Republican past
Now isn't that about the 10th version of an explanation he's given us?

Nice that he's a Dem now. Wonder when it will be convenient to switch back? (When Rove or someone like him wises up and gives Clark the adulation he thinks he deserves?)

Eloriel
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:17 PM
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4. Mature post
No, seriously.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:18 PM
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5. Intelligent people can change their minds...
...like that "DLC Whore"* Hillary Clinton.

*As described by a DUer earlier this evening.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:32 PM
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:45 PM
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10. For what it's worth
lots of people voted for Reagan and Nixon for that matter. You might be wise to remember that they both won in landslides so ragging on folks who voted for these guys does not serve your candidate well.

You want crossover votes? Keep trashing the votes of people from 30 years ago. That will go over like a bag of hammers. You're all about Democratic purity? Go for it. And be sure to enjoy the next 4 years of BushCO.

MzPip
:dem:

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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:10 PM
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19. Eloriel I just want to give you caution
Although I am sure you are not the kind of person to use indirect sources to attack people......... I would like to remind you of what this person said - DIRECTLY. The poster said - " (as I can recall, not direct quotes): "

So a person with your integrity would of course be interested in ONLY the TRUTH, as in what was said. Right?

I have this topic bookmarked in case you get confused.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:28 AM
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25. He started by admitting up front, "I was a Republican".
He started by admitting up front, "I was a Republican".

This is yet another Clark version of his political past. I am sure that we will hear many more variants of his bio.

The question I have, what makes Clark significantly different from the other candidates? I don't mean his 4-stars, but his position on the issues.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:13 AM
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27. This statement is a LIE.
Edited on Sat Nov-08-03 08:13 AM by Skwmom
It sounded fishy to me when I read this so I emailed people in the Georgia for Clark group who were there. Clark NEVER made this statement.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 10:53 AM
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30. Again, I compared notes with my wife...
Edited on Sat Nov-08-03 11:06 AM by onehandle
She has a much better memory than me. What he actually said was:

"I wasn't always a Democrat" not "I was a Republican".

Apologies. I had just gotten back from the rally when I originally wrote this and was pretty excited.

From now on I bring a recorder...or have my wife write these things.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 04:02 PM
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32. Well a person on the Clark blog disputes your account
what he said was what he has said many times....I could have been a miserable Republican or a happy Democrat

Anyway It doesn't matter, because Clark is a great Democrat and I'm proud he is in my party.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 05:54 PM
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34. "I wasn't always a Democrat"...
Was a lead-in for "I could have been a miserable Republican or a happy Democrat".

I too am proud to have him in our Party.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:12 PM
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20. Okay, E
I think we got the message.

Again.

And again.

And again.

And...
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:51 AM
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26. We get the point Eloriel.
You don't like him. You don't think he's a Democrat.

Okay.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:30 PM
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6. Thanks for the report. Sounds like things went well n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:34 PM
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8. Notice the redneck freeper in the Budweiser t-shirt.
:freak:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:56 PM
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11. Actually, it said...
"Republican" in place of Budweiser. It had more details on it, but I didn't want to get too close.

I just assume that Republicans have bad taste in beers.

(apologies to Bud lovers, but I call a beer as I taste them)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:20 PM
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13. Republicans Have Bad Taste In Beers.
Somehow that tickled my funnybone :D

Thanks for the account!
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:44 PM
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9. Thanks onehandle
for the pictures and sharing your thoughts.
That was a great answer to the one holding Bush sign:

Four Star General vs. Fourteen Months AWOL..

there's no comparison!

General Clark is a Great Democrat who I'd be proud to vote for! :-)
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Catfish Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:11 PM
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12. Nice report
Thanks for the writeup of the appearances and the pics. I used to live in Atlanta and wondered about Ga. Tech as a place for Dems. to appear. I went to a Clark meetup in Morgantown, WV last Monday, all of about 6 people showed up. I doubt if Clark will appear in WV soon but maybe I can catch him in Pittsburgh sometime.

I've only just started noticing Clark and find him intriguing. I don't really understand the hostility people have about his former party affiliation. The current state of the Repub. party is certain to drive some decent people to look at the "big tent" of the Dem. party and that's good. We have time to look at Clark, his integrity, his intellect, his leadership, and his positions. His party history doesn't interest me much, I'm more interested in where is his now and where he's going.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:24 PM
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14. Actually, you can get Clark to appear in W V
Check out his ZIPcode Drive contest. You can win a personal visit from Clark. It's pretty cool.
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Catfish Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:12 AM
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28. Yes
We talked about that on Monday and I do think it's a great idea. However, with our relatively small population in WV I don't think we have a great chance.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:34 PM
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15. Dem candidates show there like clockwork...
Tech invites Republicans too.

Prestigious campus. Good location. My dad went there.

And to be fair to Techies, I just came upon this link:
http://www.georgiatechforclark.com/
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Catfish Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 09:17 AM
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29. Ga Tech
Yes, I agree it's a nice urban campus and has good academic standards. Then there's the Varsity right across from it, haven't been there in years but can still remember the greasy but oh so good onion rings (check out the politicians who have stopped by):

http://www.thevarsity.com/
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 10:58 PM
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16. Great report - I love this part
he would cancel the Patriot Acts, and would investigate what Bush has been using it for

Oh yeah! Especially in response to a stealth Bush supporter. Go Wes!
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:02 PM
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17. A great post, a great response and I thank you for
posting it. I just have to say this............ I will personally give 20 bucks to anyone who can find or produce a verified quote where Wes Clark has said that he was a Republican.

I love what you said to the guy about AWOL Bush! Of course they have NOTHING to say to that. Blech.

I'm gald you had a good time. Seeing the man in person is unlike anything else. Still got the buzz?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:08 PM
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18. Really like that answer on PATRIOT act
Whoever wins is going to have one astronomically stupendous mess to clean up, and it's going to take vast reservoirs of resolve to tackle it. I'm glad to see him taking aim at the root of one of the worst atrocities perpetrated in the name of 9/11. It's going to take someone with solid national-security credentials to dismantle that act without being painted as a crypto-traitor, and that's one reason I'm increasingly leaning toward supporting this guy.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:44 PM
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23. I just compared notes with my wife...
Edited on Fri Nov-07-03 11:48 PM by onehandle
He actually said he would cancel the parts that endanger privacy and open the act for full legislative and public review. That could lead to full cancellation. Patriot Act II will "never see the light of day".

I am eager to see what Bush has been doing with it. Bush and company will stop at nothing to keep a smart military man with integrity out of office.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 03:54 PM
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31. Beeezar posting phenomenon--that was my post
...but it now has a generic "moderator" author stamp on it...? When I reply to it, it comes up with my moniker. Must have gotten accidentally deleted or something.....??? Strange DU forum system weirdnesses still lurk about I guess.
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shepard Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:14 PM
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21. Nice Post
and pictures.Ahe'ee Nehemah
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 11:18 PM
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22. Clark does very well in groups of 100-500
I've seen him twice - the second time in a group of about 300 he was amazing. He's obviously incredibly intelligent and funny too - his story about going to the Arkansas Senator to get into West Point was *priceless*. Someone once posted about his talents in mimicry and how he can internalize his opponents while planning, interesting stuff :evilgrin:

I paid $50 to see him, and saw him at the DNC fundraiser, but only because he was the only one that came out to meet us $40-$100 people.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 12:06 AM
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24. I enjoyed reading this and checking out the pics
thanks, onehandle! :D
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 04:06 PM
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33. Thanks for the report
and the pictures. It was really great of you to take the time to do this for us who are interested.

Thanks again.
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