Kerry is becoming embarassing

[Jackson4Gore]

I just saw he repeated himself 5 times about why he changed his campaign. He had it all in his hands, but his wishy washy ways and his double talk is bad. He is becoming a joke. He was one of the most respected Dems running a few months ago, now he is just another talking head. Hell, Carol Mosley Braun is running even with him. Hopefully Dick Gephardt can pull it out and lead the party in the right direction, if not Al Gore will come a calling.

But seriously, Joe, John K, and Dennis need to drop out.

[eileen_d]

1. Thanks for that ray of sunshine!

Good luck with Gore in 2004.

[DuctapeFatwa]

2. If only he would shave his head

That would make all the difference.

[Renew Deal]

3. Where did you see this?

The dooms day on here for Kerry today is dramatic. I hope some of these guys clear out for the benefit of my guy, but seriously... I don't think Kerry is going away until after Feb. 3. I can't imagine a scenario where he doesn't make it to NH.

Also, many of the campaigns have had shake ups. Dean, Kerry, Clark and probably all have changed managers at least once. I think Kerry's is dramatic because it is late in the game. I personally think Kerry is toast, but not becuase of Dean, Clark or anyone else. It is becuase of himself. BTW, I was hoping Kerry would be my guy pre-Clark. I was really upset with him after the MTP interview. Now, I am just confused by him.

[BurtWorm]

4. I'm for Dean, but I don't see how this doesn't violate the GD rules.

I feel bad for the Kerry people. I wish their guy would get his act more together. I'm surprised that it's taken him so long to make more of a mark. I think the IWR vote and the media's irrational dislike of him combined to throw a giant obstacle in his path. And it's a shame. Both parts of that, the self-inflicted wound and the fragging by the media.

[Melinda]

5. Why must there be a post like this daily?

I see a post just like this everyday. Seriously, who cares if you don't like him? His supporters are not going to turn on him.
Its called politics.

tit -- meet tat. :eyes:

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

11. Tee hee

Thank you.

[Melinda]

14. ;-)

My pleasure - and a belated welcome to DU, Danny. :toast:

[WilliamPitt]

6. Given your shock at the behavior of Hume and the Fox guys

I have to say that my trust in your political acumen is...well...dulled.

[robsul82]

7. I'll second that...

...sorry, bro. ;) Being amazed at how FNC anchors act is like being amazed when a girl slaps your ass after you grab hers.

Later.

RJS

[Jackson4Gore]

8. I wasn't surprised, just exasperated by what they said.

For god sakes, they said Gore needed phycological stability!

[Wonk]

15. phycological? They said Al has unstable comparative studies of algae? nt

[WilliamPitt]

21. SNARF

:)

[Bombtrack]

9. Braun is not running even with him

that's rediculous. He's still very much within range to pull an upset and win New Hampshire. Maybe if Dean grows some balls and agrees to debate Kerry there...

[robsul82]

10. 14 points? Within range?

Jigga WHA...jigga WHO?

At this point, I feel it necessary to say I'm kidding. :)

Later.

RJS

[Renew Deal]

12. Damn... someone just got bitchslapped.

OK, seriously. Dean and Kerry shouldn't be having one on ones. Not without Clark in there. But the best way to get the debates we need is to dump 3-4 candidates.

[Jackson4Gore]

13. Uh yes she is

look at the new poll: http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm

Even if he won NH, it wouldn't be an upset but a miracle. He was the frontrunner, then lost it. It wouldn't an upset at all.

[liberalcapitalist]

16. Dennis has the largest TRUE grassroots organization

Gephardt?? You can bet that there will be many leftists who support a 3rd party candidate if that middle-of-the-roade lifelong Washington politico gets the nomination.

[Eloriel]

17. How, exactly, do you figure that?

I'm genuinely curious. (Not to mention stunned at the thought.)

Eloriel

[robsul82]

18. And there's BS about Deanies "holding out" vote support.

Pathetic. Captain Loopyloo is going down at the head. I hope Who Wants to Be Married to a Presidential Afterthought? goes real well.

Later.

RJS

[Egnever]

20. Wow now theres some real optimism!

I give you denis people an F in reality,but an A+ in optimism.

[aldian159]

24. agreed

Sorry folks, as bad as Kerry's campaign might or might not be, DK is running neck in neck with "margin or error" in most polls. Get over the DK fix, people. That goes for Sharpton and possibly CMB as well.

Kudos to Chicago Tribune Tempo Section 11/7/03 for the "Margin of error" line. Don't wanna steal their thunder...

[Gephard]

19. Next he'll declare he's a

metrosexual with latent confederate tendencies.

[jsw_81]

23. Oh hush

Dean was joking about being a metrosexual, and you know as well as I do that he is NOT a confederate.

[jsw_81]

22. It's actually kind of sad

Kerry fired his campaign manager (even though he says everything is "fine"), he's down fifteen points in New Hampshire, and Dean's raised more money in Massachusetts, Kerry's home state, than Kerry has. And the CONSTANT references to Vietnam are getting old. Yes senator, we know that you served your country and yes, we respect that, but it isn't going to make us vote for you.

[DrFunkenstein]

25. Um, Why Does This Idiotic Flamebait Still Exist?

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[HazMat]

26. Someone who routinely does best in head to head polls vs Bush

does not drop out, he steps up to swat down the little flies created by the GOP controlled media that wants a weak Dem candidate. The media hates Kerry because he's a tough, strong-on-national security liberal Democrat who can take Bush down .. but they don't want that, now do they ? They would rather build up some weak, inexperienced, "angry little Napoleon" candidate to further the stereotype of Democrats being "weak on defense". Then on election night 2004 the board will light up red and they'll be saying "America has soundly rejected liberalism yet again" (even though Dean was never a true liberal or a true Democrat) while secretly popping champagne in back rooms covered with Bush/Cheney banners .

The way things are going it does look like four more years of Bush. The media (through the right wing corporate establishment) is controlling this game, and those who fail to realize it are just fooling themselves.

[jsw_81]

27. One question for Kerry people

Can you explain to me why Dean is raising more money in Massachusetts than Kerry? If Kerry's so wonderful, why aren't Bay Staters supporting his candidacy?

[HazMat]

28. If money was the true measure of the candidate,

then we should just forget about Election 2004 and name Bush the victor right now.

[jsw_81]

30. I never said that money was the true measure of a candidate

But I do think it's very telling that people in Massachusetts are lining up behind Dean.

[cindyw]

29. provide proof in link form please

can't argue without proof

[jsw_81]

32. Here you go

A blizzard of small-money contributions enabled presidential contender Howard Dean to raise more money in Massachusetts recently than Senator John F. Kerry, underscoring the former Vermont governor's powerful appeal among liberal Democrats, even in a rival's backyard.

According to a Globe analysis of federal campaign contributions, Dean raised $569,307 from Bay State residents during the third quarter of 2003, while Kerry netted $510,262 during the same period.

Dean surpasses Kerry in raising funds in the Bay State

[cindyw]

31. Ahhh, a voice of reason in as sea of malcontent.

[Egnever]

33. Not to steal a GOP line but

I think head to head polls against bush nationakt are a lagging indicator.