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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:36 PM
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My reflections: Veterans and War
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 04:38 PM by JohnKleeb
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I planned to write an article on Veterans day and was gonna send it but I will give you my thoughts and share some quotes. I personally am too young to be a veteran but I hold veterans in the highest regard as a near pacifist. The books that have influenced me about serving in one's country are endless. All Quiet on the Western Front and Flags of Our Fathers personally have been particualry influential. I will tell you this as I stood in the library this morning as my watch struck 11:11 I thought the war is done but it wasnt, I thought about how that war should have ended it all but now the weapons used then now look like children's toys. Honor the fallen and the living I ask, veterans are everywhere, you may be one, your dad may be one, or your uncle or grandpa and these brave people are ever the humble, they dont call themselves heroes. Allow me to use some quotes.

"He fell in October 1918, on a day that was so quiet and still on the whole front, that the army report confined itself to the single sentence: All quiet on the Western Front. He had fallen forward and lay on the earth as though sleeping. Turning him over one saw that he could not have suffered long; his face had an expression of calm, as though almost glad the end had come."

Do I walk? Have I feet still? I raise my eyes, I let them move round, and turn myself with them, one circle, one circle, and I stand in the midst. All is as usual. Only the Militiaman Stanislaus Katczinsky has died. Then I know nothing more."

"I am young, I am twenty years old; yet I know nothing of life but despair, death, fear, and fatuous superficiality cast over an abyss of sorrow. I see how peoples are set against one another, and in silence, unknowingly, foolishly, obediently, innocently slay one another."

The following excerpt and paraphrase is from flags of our fathers by James Bradley page 231.

A blast. Mike Strank did not wake up. He had been hit not by a Japanese enemy but by an America destroyer. The shell hit Mike right in his heart. The others recall how they would have taken his place. LB Holly said "Mike you are the best damn Marine I ever knew. Harlon received Mike's watch. And then the war went on.

the following is another paraphrase from the same book, page 326

One visitor in the fall of 1948 was President Harry S Truman on his amazing reelection bid. He went in to Vasil and Martha Strank's home they had worked so hard for, and he noticed Mary, Mike's sister and got down on his knee and said it was an honor to meet your parents.

RIP to all those who have fallen: past, present, and hopefully not the future
You are ever the brave, I brought Strank as many of you know is a relative so when I read about him and think about Veterans, I think about Johnstown, the home of my grandparents birth. Lemme just thank all you who have served. I wish I could see it through your eyes so I would be wiser in the end. Thank you.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 04:50 PM
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1. please guys give me your thoughts
Sorry for lamenting.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:02 PM
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2. Kleeb, you are doing a good job
If you need more sources for your article, go to the latest New York Times piece here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/11/opinion/11INTRO.html

I think you wrote an awesome piece. I have no doubt in my mind that you hold veterans in the highest regard. You wrote a good piece.

Would you like me to answer any other questions?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:14 PM
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3. Thanks
I am writting a personal article but this could well be my article. Now I feel like RFK did in 1968 when he adlibbed on the death of MLK in Indianapolis and it was one of his best.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 05:46 PM
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4. That's great
at least you can look back in history and find a role-model for yourself. A lot of people cannot do that anymore. Your are truly a rare masterpiece.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 06:24 PM
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5. heh thanks I wonder why more arent looking at this
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 07:11 PM
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6. A kick for John!
:kick:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:17 PM
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7. thanks
I totally adlibbed all honesty.
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