I think Bush and co. fears Clark

[quinnox]

Let me preface this by saying I'm not a Clark supporter, I like three other candidates before him. However, if he were to become the nominee I would be happy to cast a vote for him.

I have noticed GOP pundits rarely mention Clark, I think it is out of fear. I watch a lot of the political shows, and they always talk about Dean first of all, and then if they even mention another Dem then it is someone like Gephardt, and they say Gep is the one they fear.

Now, I like Gep, but I will be the first to admit they don't fear Gep. This is baloney. I think I even read a story where Clark said that the right wing machine fears him, and they put out a false story about him because of it that circulated through all the major media when he first jumped into the race.

Clark would pummel Bush in a matchup, and the GOP knows and fears this outcome.

[neuvocat]

1. I may be biased but

I think that Clark is ESPECIALLY feared. I mean, Bush started to raise 200 mil for campaign funds months ago and no one was hardly even known then in the democratic circles.

200 mil to fight an unknown opponent? Bush simply reeks of fear.

[Bread and Circus]

19. Especially now they don't even have the flag issue to beat...

him up with...

:crazy:

In the event of a face off with Bush, the GOP
won't have any sex scandal, draft dodging, patriotism,
or other such nonsense to beat Clark with.

I think they will just shit their pants.

[Cush]

2. yup

the pundits rarely talk about him, unless it's a slam. It's pretty much the same with the entire media is. Teh only time they mention him is when they bash him (although you can say the same for other canidates as well)

They want Dean

[PROGRESSIVE1]

3. Yes Clark would....

kick his hiney, BIG TIME!!!!

By the way, I am a Clark Supporter!

[andym]

4. It's difficult to know what they really think

It's difficult to know what they really think,
but Clark represents someone who could in theory
break their electoral coalition, as he will at least
appeal to military voters, and people who vote
a "patriotic" line. Patriotism is one of the cornerstones
of republican support and has been for some time (since
Vietnam basically).

So while they still might defeat him, his candidacy is dangerous
to them. It would be logical that he would be most feared.
Destroying their coalition even partially could cause the entire
coalition to fall apart, as economic conservatives are not necessarily
comfortable with the religious right, and isolationists (Pat Buchanan)
are not comfortable with neocons. Doubts about their ability to win in the future could tear them asunder.

[quinnox]

6. I agree with Clark being dangerous

to Bush and cronies. He is perhaps the biggest danger to them remaining in power.

[joshan361]

5. u are catching on

to the main issue many of knew from day 1

[caledesi]

7. Believe me, I troll FR and they absolutely fear Clark. Big Time!

I am a Dean supporter, and they are so cavalier about Dean. But, Clark, well he is military and they fear him a lot.

[quinnox]

15. That means something

coming from a Dean supporter. I think you are right, although I don't frequent freeperville, I am not surprised to hear they are scared of Clark.

[onehandle]

8. I know they do...

They showed up en masse for his rally in Atlanta. They were serious.

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. Yup, you hit the nail on the head!

The WH thinks Dean will be the easiest to beat in '04....the media has their marching orders to talk, talk, talk about him because they think the Dem voters are like their repub sheeple....if they say it, it's true. PLUS, when I see REPUBLICAN talking heads DEFENDING Dean??? THAT worries me. Tony Blankley was on the other day defending Dean. Huh? I have NEVER seen that man ever defend a Dem for ANYTHING yet he defended Dean on the CF issue? So, I think you're right. The WH fears Clark more than any other candidate and for good reason...he can turn the shrubs ass to TOAST in '04!

[quinnox]

13. Yea, that's a good point

about the GOP pundits defending Dean. I even read a story in the NY Times where Gingrich took Dean's side a few months ago in a story about Gephardt's medicare charge. WTF??

[Bread and Circus]

21. No kidding, Safire has to dust his knees off frequently, he..

goes so gaga over Dean it's not funny.

And then there's Novak, he also has a lot of nice
things to say about Dean.

It is so obvious it is not funny.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

10. You THINK they fear Clark?

They fear nothing more than Clark. Nothing. Well, other than being exposed, but with the media on their side and 9/11 and terrorists as an excuse for everything, they don't have to worry about that.

[frank frankly]

11. I agree with you

I think they also fear Kerry.

But they should fear Dean, too, and I think they do, just less.

[metisnation]

12. wouldnt you fear a slogan like this

elect a war hero not a war zero

or

all patriot no act

[Myra]

14. And the more campaign money Clark has the more they'll fear him (hint)

I just got done donating what I could afford
to his campaign. I know, the whole money in politics
thing is disgusting. But we're stuck with it for now.

And General Clark needs a lot more money to fight
the BushCo evil juggernaut.

For your convenience: :)

https://secure.clark04.com/result.php

[quinnox]

16. If Clark wins the nomination

I will consider it a pleasure to donate to him. At the present time, I am backing other candidates.

[Myra]

30. Thanks quinnox

Good to know that you're supporting the candidate of
your choice. And good to know, the other part too.

[Donna Zen]

17. Yes fear

Clark's strength is the only strength bush has against us. Patriotism, national security, and leadership is where bush wants to run. And Clark is stronger. It is the entire game plan. The only time they will say Clark's name is in conjunction with Shelton or the word "fading." The other day they used a SC from months ago showing Clark at 4%. Then later when talking to Edwards they put up the recent poll showing Clark in the lead. Frickin crazy!

They also edited one of Clark's best answers out of the debate re-run. And they edited out a Dean miss step.

I am not paranoid, but it is depressing because right now they are winning. I also think that they start shit that they know the liberals will bite on. Clark is Hilary...Clark is PNAC...They are the ones who dug out those speech to repug tapes.

The answer? Well, I just keep sending checks, organizing, and I will go door to door in NH soon. How else can you fight them.

BTW, one of the things that the RNC is doing with that 200 million is preparing to take over the net. They have that huge base of Christians etal who will dwarf what we have going on.

The fear of Clark goes far beyond the scope of the general election. Clark can move much of the military out of their column on a permanent basis. 25,000,000 Americans counting vets. He is also beating junior in Arkansas. One of my co-workers is from Little Rock. She comes from a family with eight kids and said they are all repub voters who are crazy for the General. They will not cross the street for any other Democrat. This number includes white males. Strange as it may seem, I think even Florida becomes a problem for bush against Clark.

[Bread and Circus]

22. My sentiments exactly, and people better start to read...

the writing on the wall.

[dusty64]

18. Hope whomever the nominee

is is extremely careful particularly in small planes. I'm not kidding either.

[quaker bill]

20. I think they fear their own reflection.

And if they don't they should. They are running the best campaign against themselves of anyone out there.

[AnnitaR]

23. The one they fear the most, we hear about the least.

It's rare that you even hear Clark's name mentioned and when it is it's always a negative attack that follows.

Clark is their worst fear realized. Which is why I am donating to his campaign til it hurts!

[jpgray]

24. I think all these "GOP fears (blank)" threads are silly

I often have respect for the people that post them, but I can't reconcile it with common sense. What's the picture? A seret meeting of all Republican leaders in cool cultish robes where the name of a favored candidate is mentioned and the Republicans all cower in fear?

Do we have those meetings? I want a robe.

[elperromagico]

27. Would this ultra-exclusive cabal accept bathrobes? n/t

[FrankBooth]

29. INT: Karl Rove's office. 2 .M.

That is the picture. Karl decides who the GOP fears, then he tells everyone else who to fear and how to deal with it. Rove's boys get their daily "who to fear" update, and they are disciplined enough, or fearful enough, to mostly stay on message. Except of course for Jr., who is a dullard.

[tokenlib]

25. The defense contractors must be terrified as well...

Clark seems sincere that he cares more about people than weapons systems. That is a threat to a heck of a lot of contractors and people in congress.

I'm sure that Rove and the GOP would prefer someone they can label a northeast liberal who wants to "raise your taxes." They see Dean as a good target--they'd like Clark to disappear.

[elperromagico]

26. Of course they're scared of him!

Just compare their records.

C-average Yale fratboy vs. Rhodes Scholar West Pointer
AWOL flyboy vs. Decorated Vietnam veteran
Part-owner of the Rangers vs. Four-star general
Essentially powerless Texas governor vs. NATO commander

and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on...

[LibertyorDeath]

28. This is the next President of the USA & all the rethug $ won't change

this Rove is getting balder by the day watching Clark's poll #

This man has what it takes to beat the Village idiot & Karl knows it.

By next November the ground swell of support for Wes Clark will

take your breath away. The man is on a mission lets help him help us.

This is the American publics chance to say FUCK YOU to everything

the idiot son stands for. Don't let it pass by



https://secure.clark04.com/index.php

[Piperay]

31. Yes, they fear him for sure.

Clark, a General verses a chickenhawk while a war is going on in the ME and chimp doesn't even show moral or monitarily support for the fighting man. The whole thing is a nightmare in the making for the busitas. :evilgrin:

[Jose Diablo]

32. Clark will swat *Bush like a fly

I have no doubt that Clark can/would stomp *Bush in '04.

Kucinich is who I support because I think he can do the best for our country. I love Kucinich philosophically. I fear though that Kucinich is not 'fire-proofed' from a smear campaign.

I like Kerry from the stand he took in the 90's against BCCI. Kerry's got the goods on BFEE. Will he use what he has? I think he would if he was in a the right position.

I would love to see Kerry as AG prosecuting *Bush/Cheney under RICO. After which *Bush could be turned over to World Court for war crimes.

I would love to see Kucinich as VP. Why? Because this would make Clark assassin-proof. If Clark gets wacked, look who the Mil-Ind Complex faces next?

Clark most definately is the one the neocons fear. Why? Because Clark can win. Clark is capable of undoing 40 years of behind the scenes maneuvering by the right-wing neocons. The Mil-Ind Complex cannot get away with what they do with Clark, because Clark knows the fraud and how it works.

The neocon talking heads are just the 'front' for the money boys, the Mil-Ind-Complex. All this stuff is not about religion or any of the other 'points' the neocons talk about. It is about money and power. Follow the money.