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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:02 AM
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Nightline! Did you see it?
It was about soldiers who have been injured in the war...heartwrenching! Disabled Veterans who will never be the same. So very sad and I am SO pissed off right now!

A question to an injured soldier. "What do you think about the announcement that the President will not meet the dead soldiers as they come off the planes and will not attend any funerals?" The soldier..."That's not right. If I go to Iraq to fight for this country, fight for the freedom of my wife, the freedom of my children....if I was killed and my family was at the funeral ....the President should be at the funeral. It's not right." (paraphrased...but very close)

Bush is finished.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:07 AM
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1. Amen to that
"Bush is finished."
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:09 AM
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2. About fucking time
Edited on Wed Nov-12-03 12:09 AM by jpgray
Sorry about the language, but the irony is those pundits who start making the tiny headway they should have made long ago will get cheers now from many people. Cheers, I think, that are undeserved. The silence of the general media in the buildup was criminal on the order of causing the death of many thousands of people.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:22 AM
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4. They're all complicit.
We do need to encourage more of these kinds of reports. The more the people hear the better chance of getting that asshole out of the WH.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:25 AM
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5. Oh definitely! Better late than never. (nt)
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:10 AM
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3. Also said in Iraq we were getting our butts kicked
And they covered how the Guard and Reserve are being served like 2nd class in the military.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:30 AM
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6. I cried
especially when the soldier said that he was a nuisance to his wife. It just broke my heart, and Jessica Lynch has a movie,book,which is making her instantly rich.
That man will never be right, but at least he didn't come back in a bodybag. The interview made me wonder if he wished that he had though.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:36 AM
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9. Don't blame Jess.
It's not her fault. I mean, at least there's one other person, a soldier at that, getting rich off this damned war besides Halliburton executives.

All she did was get chosen as the big winner in the Rovian War Hero Lottery. I do think it does a disservice to veterans everywhere to continue to speak poorly of this woman. I'd like to keep our anti-war feelings focused on the men in charge, not Pvt. Lynch.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:58 AM
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13. As I watched soldier Adams
struggle to talk, I knew he was going to say something like that. I was saying to myself, please don't, as I began to read his words. There was a pregnant pause, then his wife told him he wasn't a nuisance. It was heartbreaking.

The other soldier brought up the hospital in GA?, saying it was so bad, he rented a room at the Holiday Inn for three nights.
When he did make it home, he said he was shocked that so many people thought the war was over. He said the war wasn't close to being over, that it was just beginning.

Apparently, many people believed whistle ass' "Mission Accomplished".

Nightline is doing a great service, reporting on what the war reality is. It is too sad that its time slot is so late.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:49 AM
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17. Jessica may never be right, either, despite her "fortunes of war."

I watched the Diane Sawyer interview last night and Jessica Lynch's body was badly broken up. In replying to a question from Sawyer, she seemed to indicate that she still has no control over her bladder or bowels. And, while in Germany, American doctors informed her that she had been anally raped, an event she doesn't remember and hopes she never will.

She knows how the government tried to use her and she made it clear that the Iraqis who cared for her in the hospital were wonderful to her. She's tough enough that I think she'll recover but she's paid a price for this war.

Also, there was a mention of her wanting to start a foundation to help children in her community so perhaps she'll use her book and movie money to do good.

I deplore the way she's been used as a poster girl for the war but she presents herself well, says she's not a hero, that the heroes include her friend Lori Pistiwa (sp.?) who was killed, and others who were killed.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:39 AM
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7. Here's a link to write Nightline
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:07 AM
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14. Nightline is a "token"..
It used to be 90 minutes...then it was an hour...now it's 30 minutes (with 10 minutes of commercials)...and then ...

JIMMY KIMMEL :wtf:..

THAT's what they WANT us to watch..

What a total waste of air time.. Add to that , the fact that Nightline, even when it's good, is seen by few people.. Most working class people who SHOULD see this stuff are beddie bye by the time it comes on..

Our media has geniuses on their payroll who plan this stuff out..

We need to see Friends, Average Joe, Cops, Reno-911, American Idol..

They want to sell us stuff and dumb us down.. They do NOT want us to think..

Shows like Nightline are their "See, we told you" shows..

The deliberately put them where they will be seen by the fewest number of people, but yet are visible enough for them to claim that they are doing their civic duty..

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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:30 AM
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8. Ok,let's be realistic here
How could he possibly attend every funeral, and how could he choose which one to go to, given time. This would necessitate a funeral a day, practically. Even Clinton could not have possibly had the time. Besides, you know, he would have to cut back on fundraising and all.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:43 AM
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10. I don't even think it's the President's job to attend military funerals.
I'm curious, and would like to pose this question to our Vietnam-era DUers... did Johnson attend any funerals? Are there photographs of him attending funerals?

That being said, it's about time someone in this administration put a public face behind this war "effort" by showing up at a funeral. How about Powell, or Rice, or even Cheney? At the very least, it's a custom-made, perfect job for the First Lady. Has anyone seen Pickles?

And if they can't find the time, or, rather, political necessity, to show their respect to the families of the men and women they sent off to an immoral, unnecessary war, maybe they could open up Dover Air Force Base to the press, so that we Americans can see them, and participate in their final homecoming. They are owed that, and it's about time we honored our war dead in the historical American tradition, by giving them the respect, as sons and daughters of our nation, they so richly deserve. Americans should demand the right to welcome our soldiers back home, for the final time. It's a rite of passage that is both patriotic and necessary.

I grow more disgusted, and saddened, every damned day.

- Jennifer
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Adjoran Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:54 AM
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12. Hear! Hear!
Extremely good points, and well stated!

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 06:08 AM
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16. Yeppers.. and if he's got time to campaign endlessly,
he should WANT to make a stop at each location and ASK to see any war widows or returend injured soldiers.. Think of the photo op possibilities... no what was I thinking, he wants us to think that the war is all sanitized, and going "fabulously"
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:59 AM
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21. Agreed.
The squatter should hang his head in shame, every day. There is absolutely NO reason a cabinet member or Little Miss Pickles can't attend funerals and honor our soldiers. What a disgusting group of wasted flesh. :nuk:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 05:34 AM
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15. any Prez could do better then ignoring the fallen soldiers
he could not have banned showing on TV the dead arriving home.
he could occasionaly attend a ceremony.

he could demonstrate acknowledgment of the extremely high price the soldiers (and their families) paid.

the fact that he can't attend every single funeral doesn't mean he needs to ignore it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:46 AM
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19. I hear your sarcasm.. and note it...
But seriously, he has staff that could at least contact these families-- a note, even, for God's sake!
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 04:47 AM
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11. I literally cried
when the fellow said he was a nuisance to his wife and his wife in tears trying to reassure him that he wasn't, it was heartbreaking. :cry:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 11:56 AM
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20. I did too.
I knew he was going to say something like that when his wife said how tired she was. She didn't mean it to hurt him but, he felt GUILT because he was why she was tired. :( Absolutely heartwrenching.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:56 AM
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18. I saw it. I am very angry.
This war was bullshit, and these people who think they are doing something for their country are sacrificing themselves for the pieces of shit in the white house. What a horrible thing to ask of people to suffer through for a lie.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 12:04 PM
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22. I wrote and thanked Nightline n/t
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