Dem analyst says Kerry was fabulous on Leno. MSNBC now.

[chimpymustgo]

10:46 am

[LittleApple81]

1. I heard that. But Kerry might be trying this a little too late? n/t

[DrFunkenstein]

30. How Many People Do You Think Haven't Even Tuned In Yet?

n/t

[AP]

2. Are they being sincere?

Or are they just afraid that a thinning crowd of contenders will consolidate support around a likely Bush-beater?

[chimpymustgo]

3. AP, the analyst was clearly, genuinely excited about Kerry.

That's why I posted. I was surprised to see such enthusiasm. She said Kerry has got the goods - the experience, the foreign policy expertise - he just needs to break through and show his warmth, his "other" side - which she felt his appearance on Leno did. The analyst, Flavia somebody, is on MSNBC regularly - and is VERY fair.

They showed the motorcycle clip, and I thought it looked great.

[onehandle]

4. Darn. I forgot to watch...

He should have done Letterman instead of that hack's show.

In fact if I was a celeb, I'd boycott Leno on principle. Let him interview has-beens that have become Republican just to get attention.

but I digress........

[flpoljunkie]

5. Chris Heinz was just featured in campaign embed segment on MSNBC .

It was great for Kerry. Chris is campaigning in New Hampshire for his step-dad whom he calls a "low key" kind of guy and indicated that he likes Kerry a lot. He is working hard for him, especially in New Hampshire, and evidently is being well received.

[chimpymustgo]

6. Stunning how much Chris looks like Kerry.

He was cute answering that: "Mom did were you anywhere around John in 1973?"

I think they've turned the corner. Real positive vibes coming from the Kerry gang.

[blm]

10. I don't see a resemblance. I do see Chris's mom and dad in him

ALOT. They were a very attractive couple and very appealing BEYOND their physical attributes.

[JI7]

19. i think so too

i thought he looked a lot like john kerry too. though he looks like his father john heinz also.

[blm]

23. Wow...I actually disagree with you.

I only see Sen. Heinz and Teresa.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

8. Heinz

I believe. And he's good too! Like his step-dad.

[MessiahRp]

7. Anyone got a copy of that they could

convert to PC format so some of us who have horrible sleeping hours (um, me) can watch his appearance on Leno? :)

When I figure out how to work my Dazzle I am going to make a copy of Ann Coulter being destroyed by Chris Matthews last week for shits and giggles. :)

Rp

[flpoljunkie]

25. Video now up: Go to johnkerry.com now to watch Kerry on Leno

He was well received by the audience.

[realFedUp]

9. Maybe Leno could set up shop in the White House

...

[artr2]

11. I thought that the Dog was better

the dog said that his poop was hotter than Kerrys campaign - I roared, the dog was great.

[webDude]

16. YES! and did you catch the part when the dog started sniffing, got near

Jay's nose, and said something like "Oh, That's Arnold Swarzeneggar's butt", implying that Jay had it up Arnold's ass. The dog then went on to say something like "...and what is this with having John Kerry appear after a dog? The man's a war hero, a democratic presidential candidate, and you're having him appear after a dog?" All Jay could do was grin. I don't think that the dog will be asked back.

[Bandit]

12. About a month ago I suggested Dean get himself a Harley and leather

jacket and appear on Leno and Letterman. It was my logic that America seems to like the tough look ie, military uniforms, etc. I concluded since Dean couldn't wear a military uniform he could portray the "Fonz" and develope some coverage. Kerry finally did something before Dean and I think it will sell well to "Gun Totin Americans" who cherish "tough"

[mrgorth]

14. Americans hate fakeness

and would see through that. I like Dean's "truck surfing" work better.

[DrFunkenstein]

31. He Truck Surfed - Like Teen Wolf!?!

If that's true, I'm jumping ship!

[Eloriel]

15. I don't.

I think he looked tres silly.

And, quite staged, of course. If that's what people want -- more staged photo ops from the Dem side of the aisle, well, Kerry's their man, I guess.

Eloriel

[chimpymustgo]

22. Did you see it in color? On a decent size screen? Kerry was tres fine!

Of COURSE, riding into a building on a motorcycle is a stunt - but Kerry was tres smooth, tres...hip.

Very tall, too.

[radwriter0555]

13. Hate to say it, but Kerry doesn't have any chance at all of becoming

president.

I'd paid a bit of attention to his positions, and they're admirable, nothing earth shattering, but definitely solid, and left wing.

But, people in this country vote by commercial and by cult of personality. Kerry has no physical or emotional appeal at all. His physical features are his greatest detriment. He comes off poorly in person and on camera, and the people just will not vote for him, regardless of his positions.

Same with Gephardt by the way.

This isn't about how I feel, or my opinion on the integrity of the candidates... This is about marketing aspects...

[blm]

18. Bush was falsely marketed as the likable guy with integrity.

A real straightshooter. Seems the public is kinda sick of that type of fumblemouthing in a president.

Kerry will market the REAL alternative, a brilliant, serious minded man of integrity and fortitude who has a firm grasp on what the leader of the free world must do in 2005.

[ShimokitaJer]

20. I'm not a Kerry supporter, but I disagree

I think Kerry is a good candidate who has been the victim of a really poorly run campaign. I have not seen him take advantage of ANY of his considerable strengths, preferring instead to focus only on his formerly high support numbers and attack Dean simply because he was the front runner. For me, this came across as petty and emphasized his second place position rather than fighting against it.

I don't know if his new campaign manager will put him on the right track, or if his campaign team is starting to fall apart, but it's a shame to see such a good candidate so unable to get his strengths overshadowed by his hair style and his attacks on Dean.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

21. The let's call the whole primary off and go with Clark then

if TV and the rest of your criteria will decide the winner.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

27. Hey, I'm Down With That

;-)

DTH

[radwriter0555]

40. Clark doesn't stand a chance either. Actually, Dean, Kerry and Clark will

be also-rans if Edwards gets real serious in the last few months of the process.

Edwards is the horse out front in this race. He's smart to play a low profile, let the others lose steam coming out in front so early.

Edwards has what the US wants to see and hear in a President.

[TLM]

17. He looked so goofy....

and he couldn't even figure out how to work the kickstand... had to do it with his hand.

So fake and contrived... just like everything else Kerry does.

I'm surprised he didn't toss his metals into the audience, only to admit later they were just wads of tin foil.

[chimpymustgo]

24. Vicious. Ugly. Unlike Kerry, who looked great.

nt

[DrFunkenstein]

32. So Fake And Contrived - Like Your Opinion?

Kerry's been riding motorcycles since the 60's. But thank you for your contribution to the discussion.

[DrFunkenstein]

36. Might As Well Toss Out The "Metals" (sic) Charge, As Well

Although the source of this attack isn't worth Kerry's shaving scum, I should set the record straight.

-----------------------------------

The medals he threw that day belonged to others, it turned out. It was an example, the media alleged, of Kerry the phony.

From Kerry's perspective, of course, it was all pretty complicated and he never really understood what the brouhaha was all about. The medals were, after all, a highly personal matter. He'd ultimately decided to throw his also-important ribbons, and the medals he tossed were on behalf of some disabled vets.

He never claimed to have thrown his own medals, and certainly the more important matter was that he had enlisted and fought bravely in the war, and had then come back to protest the atrocities he had participated in.

And, it should be noted, in the "60 Minutes" interview with Kerry, which ran a mere four weeks after the 1971 demonstration on the Mall, Kerry refers to the "the emotion in the faces of those men who threw their medals back ... if you watch their faces, there was agony in them as they threw those things back," and so on, continuously referring to the medal-throwers in the third person, never including himself.

A couple pages after the photo of Sachs and others throwing their medals back are two different close-ups of the piles the vets left in their wake. "Look at that," Kerry says. "You see? A big deal was made about whether I threw back my medals or ribbons or whatever, but look. People threw everything. Ribbons. Discharge papers. Photographs. Certificates ..."

Indeed, that's what the photos show. In one photo, a veteran is throwing his cane. Kerry swallows. Slightly shakes his head.

http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/08/10/kerry/index2.html

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[JI7]

39. it reminds me

these things remind me of republicans. i remember i had only heard the throwing medals attacks only from republicans until i saw some on here attack him for it. never mind the fact that he actually served in the war and came back to protest and speak out against it, they attacked him for throwing medals even though they supported george w bush who never served in the first place. as if he needs permission from some chickenhawks on what he can do with the medals rather than join with others who served like him to do what they wish with them.

[mitchum]

44. Maybe Howie could come out skiing on the Tonight Show

pretend like it's the Vietnam era or something

[Gloria]

26. The one thing about Kerry is that he can go on O'Reilly and put the

guy in his place. O'Reilly cuts all the crap when Kerry is on. Kerry can be very impressive in one on ones; he doesn't let O'Reilly get to him, that's for sure. In fact, I think O'Reilly shows him great respect.

[blm]

29. I noticed that, too. It's interesting to watch the difference in B.O.

Did you hear Kerry's last appearance on Imus? He never lets Imus get the upper hand. He went after Sharpton, and Kerry defended Sharpton while turning the question around to Bush's failures. It was masterful.

It's at his site: www.johnkerry.com

[curse10]

28. I thought he did a good job

What was he supposed to do? Whatever he did Dean supporters would criticize him for it. I've seen more and more people spewing their hatred at Kerry, and not who they should be: Bush.

[robsul82]

33. He's supposed to know...

...that a kickstand's kinda self-explanatory.

Later.

RJS

[sandnsea]

34. Supporting the Confederate Flag is self-explanatory

Getting in a tizz over a kickstand is juvenile.

[robsul82]

35. Why didn't you care in February?

Hmm?

Later.

RJS

[DrFunkenstein]

37. I Thought It Was Cheap Then

But Dean got in trouble for using a short hand version of an argument that is offensive out of context. His crime was being dumb enough to use that short hand, and then refuse to acknowledge the offense.

[robsul82]

38. Sure didn't seem like it...

...with all the noise raised about it a couple weeks ago.

Later.

RJS

[ACPS65]

41. Unfortunately

Kerry can't hope to compete with the manliness that is Howard Dean. Did you see him in his green sweater today? Absolutely freightful.

[blm]

42. Because in Feb. he said it in regard to race. The last reference to

the flag was in defense of his position on gun control and his NRA support. NO discussion of race relations was in the interview. He LIED when he used race relations as his excuse for the reference.

[sandnsea]

43. Who says I didn't?

In February he said people who fly Confederate Flags should vote for health care instead of devisive issues. I didn't think it was the brightest terminology at the time. When he goes further than that, to wanting to be the candidate FOR people who fly the Confederate Flag, well that's a whole other ballgame. Still whether we're going to talk about racism or ignore it and just vote for our pocketbooks is a real issue, unlike a motorcycle kickstand.

And you know, that kickstand really says it all about the difference between Dean & Kerry. Dean is confronted with a problem and kicks like a mule and refuses to budge and embarrasses himself and lets his male ego run wild. Kerry is confronted with a problem, puts his male ego aside, and solves it.

[HazMat]

45. "divisive issues"

you know when a politician says "let's take the divisive issues off the table" what they really mean is "let's ignore it, it's not important". The GOP does this all the time when they try to court the black vote.

And some white liberals wonder why minorities are less and less identifying themselves as Democrats.

Courting the confederate vote by ignoring "divisive issues" is saying that social issues don't matter, only economic ones do.

Sorry, but oppression is oppression, whether it's being perpetuated by poor whites or corporate fat cats. Rural whites were the biggest advocates of slavery and segregation and for the most part, still hold those views. Are people supposed to ignore hateful political positions because they may share the same tax bracket ?

I don't see America as simply rich vs. poor; those who do are fooling themselves. Poor whites side with the GOP because of race... rich blacks side with the Democrats because of race. The fight is between the bigoted white power structure and those of all races, creeds and economic classes who stand against it (this group of people used to be called liberals, if I recall).

[curse10]

46. Because Dean wasn't running in February

he was a nobody from Vermont.

[Algorem]

47. Dopey Teef (sp?) seemed to take a hankering to him.