Two women I work with and I were discussing politics

[Delarage]

One of the women, the older one, who is known around the office as being very religious (she used to lead prayer groups before work) is also very pro-Bush. Just for fun, I threw out that I consider Bush to be immoral and evil.

She countered with numerous attacks on Bill Clinton, including:

1. The Blow Job
2. He destroyed the White House on the way out.
3. He stole stuff from Air Force One.
4. He did nothing to stop the evil terrorists.

I countered with:

1. So what.
2. Lie
3. Lie
4. Lie

She then said that if I wanted to see a liar, I should look at Al Gore. I countered by calling her a lying liar who was simply spreading lies produced by right-wingers.

I pointed out Bill Clinton's life vs. Bush's (worked his way up and out of the trailer park, stood up to an abusive alcoholic stepfather, became a Rhodes Scholar, became governor, became president while Bush was born in the lap of luxury, became a drunken coke addict, had DUIs, ran daddy-bought companies into the ground, then stole the presidency). I said that Clinton obviously has a more compelling story, better character, better work ethic, etc.

All of this is lost on her, though. Somehow Janet Reno's name was mentioned and this "moral" woman starts repeating two words: Homo and Lesbian. I really don't know why I bother talking to Repukes. :shrug:

[Mz Pip]

1. It is kind of fun

to watch their blood pressure go up when you call them on their ficticious beliefs.

Bush is a moron and so are many of his supporters.

MzPip
:dem:

[w4rma]

13. Sort of. But the Repukes' cult-like insanity worries me.

I don't mind disagreeing on opinions. But, folks who flat out can't accept certain facts I think can be dangerous and are easy to manipulate by the folks they trust.

[leftofthedial]

15. waste of breath

we need to get them out of the gene pool. they are defective people.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

2. I don't know why you bother either.

[Fixated]

3. .....

They're good sport. I love it when people bring up the White House "destruction." It's not well known that it didn't happen.

[trotsky]

4. If you feel it may be worth it,

you should send her links documenting why those things were lies. Maybe ask her to just do you a small favor and read them. They're all on Snopes. (http://www.snopes.com)

[ShaneGR]

5. Discrimination in the work place

Includes derogatory comments about gays and lesbians.

[FloridaPat]

6. I've had similiar experiences. The worst thing in the world is

sex in the White House. Lies about anything else are OK. Clinton was a sleeze bag because of his immorality, but Bush is OK because he's religious and reborn and doesn't cheat on his wife.

You got me. I would think starting an illegal war and killing all those people and screwing the troops and lying about everythign BUT sex would make the worse person.

Then when I point out how rotten the troops are being taken care of because Halliburton has the contracts but can't deliever - the anser from the repubs is: it's a war. Wars are suppose to be like that.

Did you see the tee-shirt someone was selling:

Blow Job
No Job
Snow Job

[kerry-is-my-prez]

7. I now have standard comebacks to all of their nonsense.

"Oh yeah - all of that peace and prosperty we had during Clinton was just horrible wasn't it?"

"I'd rather have a President who lies about sex than one who lies and causes people to die AND causes the country to become bankrupt."

[DieboldMustDie]

19. At least when Clinton's missile went off...

it didn't kill anybody ;)

[scottcsmith]

8. Politics at work? (shudder)

I'm boring to work with as I usually don't discuss religion or politics at work. I don't think I'd deal well with a debate at work. I tend to get a little...sensitive (angry).

[Skip Intro]

9. bush is as fake a Christian as he is a fake president

I don't understand why so-called, self-proclaimed "christians" support him, I really don't.

The goal of Christianity is for its believers to strive to be more "Christ-like," is it not?

Christ didn't preach deception. Christ didn't preach arrogance. Christ didn't preach pre-emptive murder. Christ preached peace and love, honesty and integrity.

bush is one of the most unChristian hypocrites I've ever seen. And those who support him because he is "a Christian leader" are self-deceptive hypocrites themselves.

I wish you'd have asked this Mrs. Bowers what she thought of the tens of thousands dead, and those who continue to die, because her "leader" L-I-E-D to us and the world to launch an illegal invasion. Wonder what she thinks God and/or Christ feel about that?

[Delarage]

11. I did say something about Iraq

and she said "Isn't it terrible what he was doing to all of those people over there?"

I thought the mass graves were from the 1990s and that the reason we HAD to attack Iraq was the WMD's. The threat was so imminent that our soldiers went in without the flak jackets that could have saved some of their lives. Of course, no WMD's.

She is a flaming hypocrite. She also railed on and on about how Democrats like giving handouts to welfare queens and the lazy and that CEO's deserve their money because they worked hard.

I like to periodically talk to "those people" because it gives me an informative, yet horrifying, look into the rock-headed simplicity that we are dealing with.

[area51]

23. republinazi @ wk

Delarage said (about her co-worker):

"She also railed on and on about how Democrats like giving handouts to welfare queens...."

As opposed to the GOP giving money to lazy corporate welfare kings? }(

[DieboldMustDie]

18. Bush & his supporters are disciples of...

Supply Side Jesus: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/132/story_13245_1.html?boardID=63628

[1songbird]

10. Keep on talking to them

because over time it may work. My father-in-law is a right wing minister who was a big Bush supporter. We had many, many arguments about his views, but I just kept on standing my ground. I spoke with him last night and he told me that he is not going to vote for Bush. So Hallelujah, sometimes the wingers change.

[Delarage]

12. Congratulations!

If we could each change just one rightwinger.........

[RuB]

14. You should have gotten up real close to her looking her in the eye

and said, "damn I always wondered what a person looked like with a log in their eye."

[Scott Lee]

22. ....and kissed her slow right on the mouth

That would have been hilarious.

[RainDog]

16. Another reply

When anyone says "300,000 Iraqis." (referring to deaths under Saddam) -- ask them if they are familiar with our new best friend, the leader of Uzbekistan.

He's now our ally because we get to use his country as a staging ground. He has only boiled people to death, according to George Monbiot in a Guardian article. (I'll have to go find it...my computer crashed and I lost my article links, dammit.)

The man is our ally at the time that Bush has just made a speech about how we can no longer support regimes because it's politically convenient, or whatever such b.s. he spouted this last week.

Also, I think we've also liberated about 50 thousand Iraqis of their lives. Not that it matters if we are killing civilians, of course. They hate us because of our freedom (to kill them.)

[Syncronaut Seven]

25. 50,000 Iraqi lives lost?

Have we forgotten about 10+ years of sanctions? I was under the impression that we crossed the half million mark some time ago. Almost qualifies as genocide if you ask me.

[Renew Deal]

17. Try to get her in a Secret Santa

And give her Franken's book.

[liberalmuse]

20. I swear to god these people are insane.

The generic conservative 'argument' would completely unravel if all logical fallicy, bigotry and Clinton-hating remarks were removed from it.

Nothing in all of history will ever be as monumentally evil as 'THE BJ'. They will never get past it, because they are more concerned with exposing others naughty sexcapades than with how many thousands of innocent people are suffering under corrupt Bush rule. They are callous, emotionally stunted and shallow.

[Skittles]

26. I think there is something deeply wrong with them too

they're so fixated on f***ing NONSENSE yet give a pass to some MAJOR SHIT. My theory: they put their party before their country. And their party can do no wrong.

[Donna Zen]

21. Shock lunch!

Last week I had lunch with a co-worker sporting his Fox News coffee mug. He cured me of all of my delusions about the smirk-o-king. You see folks, we have it all wrong.

This is Clinton's recession and jobless economy, because it resulted from the bubble created by Bubba's friends. Clinton is to be blamed for 911, because he did nothing to protect this country. Nothing! And smirk needs--I ain't making this shit up--three more terms to clean up the mess in which Clinton left this country.

Last lunch with this guy...it was beyond useless. Iraq is going great btw, so don't say that. Clinton should have done this long ago, and Iraq would have been the promised "cake-walk."

Now raise your hands in the air and say: I believe!

[loudnclear]

24. Should have asked her "What would Jesus think about a lying President

who is the reason that young men and women are being killed and maimed in and by our military?"

[kskiska]

27. Just one thing…

Clinton never lived in a trailer park.
:)

[salinen]

28. bush

he could kill a baby on live national t.v. and the freeps would still vote for him.