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Thu Nov-13-03 04:08 AM
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In a strange way, I admire the republicans tenacity.... |
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...while at the same time despising them and what they stand for.
As the current little hissy fit over the judicial nominations shows and everything else that has happened since Bush took office, the democrats believe in compromise for the greater good while the republicans will accept nothing less than 100 percent compliance with their agenda. The singlemindedness with which they fight when they got 98% of what they wanted with judicial nominees underscores not only their determination but the danger we face from the opposition that wants nothing more than utter and complete victory and will settle for nothing less.
And while I can step away and admire their tenacity, it shows us exactly how dangerous the republicans are. They have no interest in plurality, compromise, or even acceptance of the existance of dissent and that frightens me.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:13 AM
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1. I've Never Seen Anything Like this.... |
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It's madness. The Dems should've done something like this during the whole tax cut debate, when they still had power. 30 hours of debate on the stupidity of supply side economics, although you only need one.
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Thu Nov-13-03 11:09 AM
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19. I have -- it's in the history books under "Germany: 1933-1945" |
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:18 AM
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2. The problem with their agenda though |
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is that it isn't necessarily what is best for the people or this country. And I agree, these freaks are DANGEROUS!
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:29 AM
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3. They have been plotting this stuff for |
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Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 04:50 AM by Piperay
years. I wish the Democrats would have a plan like that and stick to it, the Democrats over analyze everything too much and in the end let everything slip away from them. :argh:
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:34 AM
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We believe that through compromise we can do get what is in our country's best interest. Republicans single-mindedly want to push their fascist policies, and will not accept anything less than 100% victory.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:38 AM
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5. The wobbly leadership of Democratic party is dominated by the |
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ever-ready DLC opinion for inexhaustible desire to compromise, align and accomodate with big business - hence the rethuglican party is assured that regardless of the ridiculous antics they put out the Democrats will never attempt nor know how to make them pay darely for such stupidity. That makes me so hellishly angry at all the DINOs and people who always want to "give some so called 'moderate' rethuglican benefit of the doubt". And I ask - when does this benefit runout?
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Thu Nov-13-03 06:04 AM
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6. they are getting desperate |
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they are not so sure King George will be reappointed so they're going gangbusters trying to ram through their piece of shit agenda. Very scary.
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Thu Nov-13-03 06:14 AM
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7. I'll always be a Democrat......... |
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but the Pukes always stick to their message and don't waver. The Democrats on the other hand...we're supposed to be the "Big Tent", all inclusive. What we have are every one of the groups in our tent shouting a different message. There is no singular message from the Democrats, until lately. We have to focus like a laser beam with one common message, all of us. No more fussing and feuding between us. The Pukes stand shoulder to shoulder on their issues and don't allow any variance from policy. In order for Dems to win, we have to adopt a bit of this strategy. I know it goes against the grain of Democratic ideology, but it's the only way to get rid of this cancer that is slowly killing Democracy in our country.
Study your quarry, adapt to it's habits, learn everything you can about it, then attack it. A page right out of Ted Nugent's book on Philosophy. The only way to succeccfully bring this beast down, is to think like this beast.
This won't sit well with a lot of people in our "Big Tent", but the alternative is the slow and sure death of the Democratic Party.
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Thu Nov-13-03 06:37 AM
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8. But...there's a difference between tenacity and zealotry... |
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...which is what we're seeing in the New Republican party.
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Thu Nov-13-03 07:03 AM
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9. zealotry should be the path to electoral oblivion |
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They can only leverage their inferior status by a limited amount with redistricting and SCOTUS electoral treachery. In all fairness, they should be the minority party.
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Thu Nov-13-03 08:23 AM
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This reminds me of something I was told in church when I was still attending. "There is freedom in letting go and doing what you are told." I tried it and I certainly did NOT feel free. Everything should be up for interpretation and compromise. They do not want to interpret what they are told and will not compromise. We all interpret and are willing to compromise but when the other side won't work with you then you must stand firm. Too many of these reps did not see this coming and when they did the damage was done. I certainly do not want us to become like them. I would rather lose and have the chance to fight it out than get in the mindless line with the party, any party.
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Thu Nov-13-03 07:18 AM
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one Repug senator told CNN that the Dems were breaking the law by denying the four judicial nominations. That filibustering is unconstitutional. Interesting, seeing as that is exactly what the GOP did to deny far more than four of Clinton's judicial appointments.
I really think these people have gone mad. They think that whatever they do is completely justified because they are divinely chosen or something. They are very very dangerous, and we should do everything we can to make sure that many of them go down to defeat in 04.
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Thu Nov-13-03 08:28 AM
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13. Did you hear the comments Oral Hatch and McConnell were making |
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Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 08:29 AM by nannygoat
trying to paint the Dems as racist by comparing how the Dems supposedly approached the nomination process of some white guy vs. Estrada? And of course they trotted out all of the crap about Dems wanting to know what religion the nominees are. They are despicable! If only they could really hear the things they say. At one point, Oral "Whiner" Hatch said something like "We'll never get extremely liberal or extremely conservative judges approved." D'uh, that might be the point, Oral.
Republicans continually put their party above their country.
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Thu Nov-13-03 08:34 AM
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15. McConnell is a prissy smug prig |
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and a prick too. I'm glad to see the Dems finally take the gloves off.
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Thu Nov-13-03 07:46 AM
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11. The republicans are like 2 year olds. |
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Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 07:47 AM by in_cog_ni_to
They think of no-one but themselves, they think the world revolves around them, they don't like to share, mine, mine, mine! and they throw tantrums when they don't get their way. Remember Florida, 2000? Tom Delay bussed in his 100's of RWers to riot and break down the door to stop the counting of ballots? These people will do something to get there way with this nomination process. Tonight should be interesting, things will get nasty and the Dems need to stay on their toes! I don't admire this behavior. The republicans should get "Timeouts" and go sit in the corner until they can behave! :7
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Thu Nov-13-03 08:30 AM
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... if we don't take a few pages from their playbook, we are history.
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Thu Nov-13-03 09:20 AM
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16. 'audacity' is more like it |
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Thu Nov-13-03 11:07 AM
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18. I think it comes from |
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being in the minority for 40 years. They had plenty of time to plan
Hopefully it won't take the Democrats as long to get their act organized.
For the Republicans, it took a revolution from the precinct level that kicked out the get along crowd and put zealots in their places.
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