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Thu Nov-13-03 04:30 PM
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Freeper celebrates Hitler killing Gays |
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*Gay Nazi victims to get memorial
Reply 3 - Posted by: Gimlet, 11/13/2003 3:43:06 PM Why not a monument to heterosexuals killed during that time? How about transsexuals? or maybe bisexuals? I would tend to think that a general monument to ALL victims would be more appropiate....However being politically correct is in now.
Reply 4 - Posted by: hockingham, 11/13/2003 3:43:29 PM
The only thing Hitler did right.
Reply 7 - Posted by: BerkeleyThomas, 11/13/2003 3:50:46 PM
Homosexuals played a key role in the rise of the Nazis.
Reply 9 - Posted by: kafka, 11/13/2003 4:06:03 PM
Recognition of non-Jews that Hitler had murdered in the death camps has been long overdue. However, homosexuals (the term Gay did not exist at that time) were only a very small part (An estimated 10,000 to 15,000) of the over 5 million non-Jews that were murdered. There were many times more Gypsy and Polish victims.
Reply 10 - Posted by: virge randall, 11/13/2003 4:07:30 PM
oh boy. Another group demanding reparations, museums, and apologies from everyone who didn't do enough to stop the Nazis. (And how do you prove a negative?)
Reply 13 - Posted by: TiminPhoenix, 11/13/2003 4:12:40 PM
Hitler did nothing right.
Reply 15 - Posted by: suv_junkie, 11/13/2003 4:22:11 PM
#13 said: "Hitler did nothing right."
Hitler's dislike of Communism may have saved the Allies.
Just food for thought.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:33 PM
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1. Certainly, the one who said |
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"the only thing Hitler ever did right" was out of line, but he was then repudiated. The rest was just typical Freeper bash-the-victim nonsense.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:36 PM
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5 million non-Jews killed? I smell bullshit.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:40 PM
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3. No. That's about right. |
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It isn't b.s. However, that number is an amalgam of various political, ethnic, and social groups persecuted by the Nazis.
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Fixated
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:42 PM
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Meaning only one million Jews were killed? This may sound a bit thick, but from pictures of death camps it seemed to be almost all Jews. I thought they were not the minority.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:45 PM
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5. 6 million dead Jews, 5-6 million dead others |
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Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 04:48 PM by youngred
poles, russians, other eastern europeans, homosexuals, catholics, communists, gypsies, political prisoners, mentally retarded and disabled people.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:46 PM
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6. Six million Jews killed. |
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What is not typically disseminated is the number of non-Jews killed during the war. Millions of Catholics perished, mostly in the Warsaw ghetto and concentration camps. Gypsies too.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:47 PM
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8. Hitler's total was about 12 million |
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And the largest portion of that were approximately 6 million Jews. The other 6 million were divided up among gypsys, gays, Catholics, communists and whomever else he didn't like.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:48 PM
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Gotcha, I just had that 6 million figure stuck in my head.
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:47 PM
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this kind of car wreck disaster makes me sick but reminds me once again what level of human sludge we're working against
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:51 PM
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like a link to the discussion. I think that they need a talking-to...
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:50 PM
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10. Hitler's dislike of communism saved the allies? |
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Saved them just so big corporate empire can go commie on the American public, who have forgotten what true freedom is?
Yipes.
And how did homos HELP the Nazis?! :shrug: :eyes:
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Thu Nov-13-03 05:01 PM
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A few prominent Nazis were gay (Röhm, and he was eliminated too) - that has nothing to do with their crimes.
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Thu Nov-13-03 05:31 PM
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19. Mind not referring to "homos", please? |
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It's extremely disrespectful. Thanks,
Dirk
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:50 PM
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11. I have to agree with one freeper point |
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That a monument for all victims would be best. I would love a monument that actually listed the groups Hitler went after.
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Thu Nov-13-03 05:08 PM
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and there are also individual monuments to poles, jews, political prisoners. It's no different than those. There are memorials for all, and specific memorials for specific groups too
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Thu Nov-13-03 04:52 PM
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13. their reasoning is truly bizarre |
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Let's say maybe 1/3 of the nazis were gay, if even that many. They blame gays for the rise of nazism. What about the remaining 2/3 that were heterosexual.Shouldn't we follow their line of reasoning and blame heterosexuality for the rise of nazism when the bigger portion of them were heterosexual? The freepers once again dazzle me with their brilliance. :puke:
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Thu Nov-13-03 05:11 PM
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16. Even that is a stretch |
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Considering that 1/3 is 3x more than the homosexual population at large. That would be assuming a HUGE group of gays joining the Nazis, a group which included in its various manifesto's the need to kill homosexuals and other "deviants".
No one accused them of being long on truth, intelligence or logic
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Thu Nov-13-03 05:16 PM
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I purposefully (for an example) used an inflated figure. To blame a whole group of people on something based on their sexuality, whichever it might be, is bizarre period.
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