Face facts: Most Americans don't care about Iraqi casualties

[bluestateguy]

Many people do not like hearing this, but the evidence seems hard to contradict: only the deaths of all-American boys seem to shake the consciences of the Ameruican people. Unfortunately, the slaughter of thousands of Iraqi civilians never will appear on these folks' radar screens. The US media treats Iraqi civilian casualties as a mere afterthought. Their rule seems to be that the death of one US soldier will generate about as much news coverage as the deaths of five Iraqi civilians and perhaps 10 Iraqi military casualties.

Now, if the American anti-war movement wants to represent a majority of the American people they will have to accept the cold, hard, ugly fact that most Americans will only be convinced that the war is wrong when they see fellow Americans being killed. I would advise the anti-war movement to talk as much as possible about the US casualties when they communicate with more mainstream constituencies.

[illini]

1. Sad but mostly true.

nt

[democratreformed]

2. I care!

Maybe I'm not mainstream but I care very much. It is heartbreaking.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. You said it

you are not mainstream

When facing joe six pack you have to talk to him or her in
ways that make sense to him or her

It is not about abdullah in Al Basr quarter... he is just a
raghead

Now talk about little joe, or little suzzie who is there for a year
or more and we are not getting anywhere. Now you will get somewhere
after all Joe Jr, is doing all he can, but lets face it, we are
getting nowhere and this is turning into another Vietnam and a quagmire...

That is why DoD concocted the whole Lynch story

The rescue was real, she was taken POW, but why do you think
they never bothered correcting that her weapon jammed and she did
not fight them brutes? The image of a pure virginal, young girl
fighting like a banshee to avoid capture was useful in the
imagery needed by DoD... and one that Joe will identify with...
fast...showing racism is not dead in this country... yes the image
was not coincidental or accidental.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Correct

and they do not care about anything going
on outside their little world

Now they did not care about Vietnamese body
counts either... (this little fact the
DoD is missing) what turned Americans against
taht war is US Casualties

And in that respect we are NOT that different
from the rest of the world... most do not care
about nobody except their nation's kin.

[salinen]

6. i beg to differ....

yes they do. they are secretly happy that brown people are dying. they are affraid of brown people. they populate, stink, and go on welfare according to most freepers. whenever they hear about brown people dying they expect the price at the pump to go down and they hop in their hummers and celebrate.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. Yep some in our population is very happy

them brownies are dynig, but here is how you aproach them

You say the price of gas was s'posed to go down?

Why hasn't it?

Sorry, if I need to keep it simple, but for those that need
tht kind of black and white mentality, hit them where they care,
the price of gas for them pick ups.

(by the way my hubby drives a truck, and no he is not one of them
either)

[movonne]

4. I have to agree with you...I never hear people say how many Araqi

civilians are being killed or wounded.

[DuctapeFatwa]

5. The public wants more Iraqi casualties, not less. And US deaths are not

the death knell to bush that some in Washington think they would be.

Most of the soldiers that are put in harm's way are poor and/or ethnic minorities that were considered undesirables by the affluent voting class before they joined the military, and disposable once they had joined it.

[nayt]

9. true

a few months ago, right after the war ended, the local paper had the frontpage headline "5000 iraqi civilians killed in war." one of co-workers, glancing at the headline, turned to me and said "better them than us."

[Skittles]

10. BUT....................................HE GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE !!!!!

see, they care about Iraqi people ONLY WHEN IT SUITS THEIR F***ING AGENDA.

[salinen]

11. skittles

good thought. and now we have taken over for saddam by "killing his own people." priceless.

[ibegurpard]

12. Don't forget all the babies he murdered as well.

n/t

[Skittles]

19. yes

the freaking "PRO-LIFE" party. :puke:

[Cat Atomic]

13. Today, I actually heard a man say the following:

"I don't care whether we find WMD's or not, Hussein was in violation of UN resolutions. And I honestly don't care about Iraqi women and children. They're not worth risking our men for. Every time an American dies we should shoot 50 Iraqis."

I am not shitting you- that's what he said. I was blown over by the number of contradictions in that one statement. Without the WMD's, there's no UN violation argument. If you don't give a shit about Iraqis, there's no "liberation" argument.

Stupid. Ass. Hole.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

14. That sums up the mind set with which we are dealing rather succinctly

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[maggrwaggr]

16. All right, this thread has gone to shit

Thanks, hypnotoad. You want your 15 minutes?

[maggrwaggr]

17. Listen up, you people are being disgusting

The only reason that "most" Americans don't care is because they're not shown Iraqi casualties.

The media has barely shown one fucking picture of one dead Iraqi. They've sanitized the war.

"Most" Americans have no fucking idea that Iraqi civilians are regularly being killed.

The fact that you are lumping "most" Americans into this category simply because you know a few assholes is deeply disgusting to me.

Most Americans are human beings, and most human beings have an ability to be at least somewhat emphathetic IF given the stimulus.

Man, most of the people responding on this thread are just as prejudiced as any racist out there.

You make me want to leave DU and never come back.

[Darranar]

18. Yes they do...

they simply don't KNOW about them.

There's a difference between ignorance and apathy.

I think we're underestimating the American people. You don't think they care about innocent Iraqis? Is it perhaps because no one but the far leftist radicals (however much I might find myself in agreement with them (or at least what they say they believe), that is what they are) at ANSWER and the like mention them?

I haven't seen headlines about civilian deaths; I haven't seen candidates talking about civilian deaths; I haven't seen such stuff anywhere but on DU and other leftist websites.

Though the revolution may be on the internet, it needs to eventually spread to the country in order for it to be effective.

[Cocoa]

20. the advice to the anti-war movement doesn't make sense

They are serving as moral leaders, and you want them to stop? I don't see the incentive for them to become as hypocritical as most of the rest of the country.

[Code_Name_D]

21. Beware the Looking Glass of the Mediea

Americans do not care about Iraq causalities. Its an observation so abundantly clear as to be stating the obvious. But stating the obvious in regards to what group of observations? Exactly what is obvious? Are you going by what the media shows you? Or by what the occasional peer might say?

Both cases will give you a false impression, and indeed is designed to do so. But so to do you have to remember that the American public is being lied to. While our side is being systematically silenced. As a result, most are under the control of the lie, that a) Husane was killing his people, up to the war, b) that few Iraqis were killed during the war, that c) we do not attack civilians, d) and that the Iraqis that are not being kill or arrested were all part of the "Insurgence." Even the invents and 2 year olds. That e) Iraqis are now better off, with new shops and schools opening up every day.

Most Americans are not concerned about civilian casualties, because they are not aware that there is a problem. But as some one else did note, when the welfare of the Iraqi civilian served the interests of the administration, suddenly we did care. The fact that Husane gassed his own people, tortured dissenters, and even threw out new born babes to take the incubators, have been used to play on American sympathies. Indeed, the whole reason why we are in Iraq now, is to rescue the Iraq people from their own tyrannical leader.

And what about the occasional peer, expressing disgust with the Iraqi people, even wanting them dead? Such opinions are so prevalent because no one will call them on it. The path to hatred is the path of least resistance, and to a large extends, it is the values of the community that keeps us all honest. But the community has in fact turned on decency in secret. Bush has made it OK for the racist to come out of there closets, and has cloaked America with a vial of fear. And the few of us out there empowered to see the difference, have little power to speak.

Do not confuse forced ignorance with passivity. For every thing you see that is obvious in America, is so by the design of those who wish to conceal the truth. Every thing you see before you, is through the looking glass, and can not be trusted.

[leftofthedial]

22. Face facts: Most Americans don't carea bout American casualties

IMHO