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eileen from OH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:55 AM
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What ever happened to the black helicopter militias?
You know who I mean. . .the paramilitary cranks who were convinced they had to protect their liberties from the government and that black helicopters were gonna swoop down and git 'em?

I mean, considering the Patriot Act and all, you'd think there'd have been a re-surgence. Or are they just waiting to come on out and say "told ya so"?

eileen from OH
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:59 AM
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1. Ha!
It appears they were a bunch of chickenshits who turned tail as soon as Boss Bush stole office. Isn't it amazing that Bush is taking more crap from liberals than from armed paramilitary right-wing kooks and skinheads?!
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Frangible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:02 AM
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2. their candidate got elected
that's what happened.
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:26 AM
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4. well, not exactly 'elected'
but he made his way into the oval office....by hook and/or by crook.
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YankeeFan Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:02 AM
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3. How’s your pilot’s license coming?
;-)
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 07:43 AM
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5. Hi YankeeFan!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 08:04 AM
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6. For a serious answer
Best place to start IMO is David Neiwert. Neiwert published one of the most important books on the so-called Patriot movement and his blog, Orcinus, is primarily focused on monitoring incipient American fascism in all its forms. What makes his stuff especially valuable is that he isn't just slinging the term "fascism" around as a facile ad hominem brickbat. He has done an extraordinarily useful survey of the various attempts at a rigorous definition of the phenomenon, and is working from a sharply focused and rationally justified usage of the term.

You can find that definition in an extended piece he did on Cursor, Rush, Fascism and Newspeak: An Exegesis.

Kinda long, but worth reading the whole thing, more than once IMO. The core definition is on this page:
http://www.cursor.org/stories/fascismiii.php
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 09:14 AM
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7. Gore isn't in the WH, so their guns are safe...
Remember? The RW was telling their "Base" that Gore and us were gonna rip their guns from their hands, cold or not?
That's what lost the midwest.

Well, now that ChimpCo is installed, these "Patriots" figuree that they have a kindred spirit at the helm who will let them keep their guns, so they've "Stood down"...

Fools! USA PATRIOT act, "Camp X-Ray", DARPA, TIA, Poindexter, grocery store "Valu-Discount Cards"....

The shit is being played out RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES! and they don't care, because Al Gore isn't gonna grab their guns and Hillary isn't gonna rape their womenfolk...

Add to that the fact that some Shortwave broadcasters are finally LISTENING to what's going out over their stations and declining to sell these "pastors" any more airtime...
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 11:31 AM
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8. I recall alot of them got infiltrated and busted up, post OKC
One analysis I read alleged that while the 'patriot'

militias decreased in number and membership, extremist militant

religious movements were all but ignored.

Sorry I don't have more for you
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