Yet ANOTHER person, a threat to Bush, ENDS UP DEAD!!!

[CaptainMidnight]

Gang,

I've been following this story for almost a year now. Kept a lid on it. Didn't wanna spread "conspiracy theories" about something I could NOT confirm. Captain Mike is currently sitting on 158 such items in his DRAFT box of his email.

A woman accuses Bush of rape. She sounds sorta nutty, so even the conspiracy theorists are wary. But the court has accepted her filings. Word is getting out into the mainstream press about this woman suing the President for raping her several years before he became President. Like I said, been sitting on this one.

Then she ends up killing herself.

That's on my list of stories I'm pursuing. When this first surfaced amongst us "conspiracy theorists," we didn't know how to handle it THEN. Meaning, the rape accusation. I've read the court filings, and this woman sounded crazy. I mean, that seemed the consensus amongst us all. Could be something to it, but she's not a reliable witness. I , and others of my ilk, dropped it and moved on.

But I'd always kept it in the back of my mind. One way that I figure out things, or make a decent stab at understanding their heinous doings, is that I put myself in their mindset. How would I go about refuting this? Make the woman out to be crazy! Her court filings were available online. Who knows? Maybe the Bushies altered them to paint her as crazy. That's what they do to US, so no one believes OUR crazy internet whacko conspiracy theories. It's a classic CIA tactic, "poisoning the well."

This WOMAN/BUSH/RAPE story is just such one. It stuck in my craw and I forgot about it. Check out this English translation of the Pravda site story: http://english.pravda.ru/usa/2002/12/13/40786.html

NOW GET THIS. The final paragraph of this story, from DECEMBER 2002:

"By the way, the criminal proceedings against previous American President Bill Clinton also started in a small town. Who knows, maybe Margie Schoedinger will simply vanish one day? "

THEN SHE TURNS UP DEAD!

Still don't know what to make of it; of course they said it's suicide, even if women rarely kill themselves with a gun. Even still, my peers online are still very wary of this. That's just the thing, though. YOU CAN"T PUT ANYTHING past these bastards. Plus, lotsa people standing in Bush's way or threatening to expose him end up dead. Some folks are calling her death, "Baxterized." Meaning, that guy from Enron, Cliff Baxter, who was gonna spill all to the authorities, who coulda revealed Bush's financial stakes in such, and indeed had hired a bodyguard, then ends up shooting himself. In the back of the head. Twice. With rat shot (he didn't want his loved ones to be able to trace the bullet now, would he?). http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0205/ridgeway.php

Then there's the "Funeralgate" guy in Texas that could have implicated Bush in that scandal dealing with money, payoffs, and funeral homes while he was Governor of Texas. Ended up a suicide.

James Hatfield, the man who wrote FORTUNATE SON, where he details Bush's arrest for cocaine possession. Ended up a suicide drug overdose.

Danny Casolaro, who in the 90's was working on a book tying up Iran-Contra, BCCI, drug running all of that to Poppy Bush, suddenly committed suicide. By slashing his wrists 15 times. GOOGLE his name and "The Octopus." http://www.american-buddha.com/danny.last.htm

FIRST PERSON TO DIE OF ANTHRAX ATTACKS was the photo editor of that tabloid magazine, The Sun who had made the decision to publish those cover photo stories of the Bush Twins drunkenly cavorting on that barroom floor. Nice of those "terrorists" to get back at the man who humiliated our President and his family, huh?

60 MINUTES did that ballsy expose' on Cheney's company, Halliburton. Real eye-opener. When I saw it I couldn't believe that they really coughed up a lot of the awful truth about that company's fraudulent ways and war-profiteering. Then the young 34-year-old producer of that segment suddenly dropped dead of spinal meningitis. Steve Kroft had been quoted as saying, "that guy was gonna be running 60 Minutes one day." http://www.tvbarn.com/ticker/archives/013600.html

It's two weeks before Election 2000, whereby the balance of the Senate is hanging by one Senator's seat; it could swing Republican...or Democrat and stymie Bush's chances of complete control over the government. The Democratic candidate from Missouri, Jim Carnahan's plane goes down with him in it, two weeks before Election Day. Oh, and his Republican opponent for that seat? JOHN ASHCROFT.

It's two weeks before Election 2002, the mid-terms, whereby the balance of the Senate is hanging by one Senator's seat; it could swing Republican...or Democrat and stymie Bush's chances of complete control over the government. The Democratic candidate from Minnesota, Paul Wellstone's plane goes down with him in it, two weeks before Election Day. Oh, and his Republican opponent for that seat? Norm Coleman, personally hand-picked by The White House to run against Wellstone, whom both Bush Jr. and Bush Sr. considered the biggest thorn in their side in Congress

A woman accuses Bush of rape. She sounds sorta nutty, so even the conspiracy theorists are wary. But the court has accepted her filings. Word is getting out into the mainstream press about this woman suing the President for raping her several years before he became President. Then she ends up killing herself.

There's also those four soldiers from the FAKE rescue of Jessica Lynch who have all died in the past month, etc., suicide, car crash, homicide, shot in the back.

And the babysitter for Marvin Bush, the President's brother, somehow gets run over by her OWN CAR. Read the report. It's bizarre. Doesn't make sense. Her own car slips outta gear, pins her against a guard house, yet also manages to continue down the street! What did she know? What did she see? http://forums.alternet.org/guest/motet?show+-ugWy3F+-ilad+Currents+904

So Maties, I don't put anything past them. I hope more facts emerge, and that we find out more about this woman, either crazy, or painted as such to discredit her. I wanna say that my gut says, yeah, they offed her. After all, they've offed much bigger fish like Wellstone and JFK Jr. I also think that's one reason why the Dems are so spineless. They wanna fucking live!

What's your instinct?

Captain Mike

[emad]

1. Check out:

Post 128: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=214046&mesg_id=219013&page=

On edit:

and Post 5 on: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=219088#219178

[RebelOne]

2. Yep, I think you're right on all counts, except for one.

I believe that JFK Jr.'s death was an unfortunate accident. He should not have been flying in bad weather when he did not have an instrument rating.

[emad]

3. They cremated his body pretty damned quick soon after

and there's a 50 year moritorium on revealing Jackie Kennedy's will - particularly personal documents, letters, papers etc

[bearfartinthewoods]

4. maybe you kept a lid on it but DU didn't

when we heard of it last year, a DUer who was a journalist in Texas investigated the story. tragic women. i'm sure someone will post one of the other threads on the subject from this week. check them out for the link to the afadavit, read it.

[Bozola]

5. But Vice President Sejanus and Senator Horse...

have full confidence in the leadership and integrity of our beloved "Little Boots".

I don't want to believe that this is true, but I've seen "Little Boots" smile and gloat over executions of prisoners. What a little creep.

If any of this is actually true, I think the 2004 elections are in jeopardy, not to mention the lives of the opposition front runners.

[tom_paine]

8. Nice "I, Claudius" references...and I agree

Imperial Amerika is now looking like a bad rerun of that very fine book & series.

The Senator in question was "Senator Incitatus"...

"You are a study in history, Sejanus. How a small mind coupled to unlimited ambition and without scruple can overcome a nation full of clever men. You are PROOF, Sejanus, that what mankind needs most is a sense of smell..."
--Asinius Gallus (the Robert Byrd of his time), "I, Claudius"

And my opinion is that Emperor Bunnypants* is our Tiberius.

My prediction for Caligula, the "hunky" Latino Emperor George P. Bush, who's selection is already assured...

May God forgive the Imperial Subjects of Amerika for allowing our Formerly Free Nation to knuckle under without a fight to the New Caesers.

[Bozola]

11. Thanks "Incitatus" I couldn't remember

George Sr. was Tiberius IMHO.

Bunnypants is "little Boots" (translation of "Caligula") but with better handlers.

[CaptainMidnight]

19. Love the I CLAUDIUS

reference!

Captain Mike

[rasputin1952]

6. Well...

:tinfoilhat: ON...

This is beginning to look like the suspicious deaths of those that were around during the Kennedy assassination. I would put NOTHING past the curreent admin. But...without proof, allegations, no matter how well they line up, cannot get bushco in water hot enough to cook him.

Scalding him however, is not out of place.

:tinfoilhat: OFF

[sistersofmercy]

7. Not sure what to make of this but it is sort of shocking.

About Mel Carnahan, he was elected posthumously by the good people of Missouri his widow Jean took his seat. The repubs tried unsuccessfully to remove Mel's name from the ballot. It was a big slap in the face to Ashcroft. People I know from other states couldn't believe it. The other day I saw a bumper sticker that read "Still with Mel."

Ashcroft is a vile creature, creepy beyond belief. Years ago, I sat near him in a restaurant and I distinctly remember thinking "What a creepy aura coming from that man."

[Zan_of_Texas]

9. Baxter facts not quite right

You wrote:

Plus, lotsa people standing in Bush's way or threatening to expose him end up dead. Some folks are calling her death, "Baxterized." Meaning, that guy from Enron, Cliff Baxter, who was gonna spill all to the authorities, who coulda revealed Bush's financial stakes in such, and indeed had hired a bodyguard, then ends up shooting himself. In the back of the head. Twice. With rat shot (he didn't want his loved ones to be able to trace the bullet now, would he?).

Baxter was preparing to talk to the feds -- true -- his lawyers were making arrangements for him to possibly meet with them the following week. Arrangements were being made on the same day, a Friday, his body was discovered. Baxter was in the top 5 or 10 execs at Enron until his resignation the previous summer, and he would have been the highest-ranking person to be cooperative

The story about him having hired a bodyguard, after investigation, appears to have been actually a conversation he had with a friend, where he said something to the effect of, "Why would I need to hire a bodyguard? I'm a businessman."

He was shot once, in the side of the head. Right side. He was right-handed. Yet the tests for gun residue were inconclusive for his right hand.

Baxter had bought the gun used, but even though authorities looked hard, there is no evidence of if or when he bought the ammunition used, which is a type typical of law enforcement (but not rat shot).

He had a yellowish bruise on his left eye, and an abrasion on his left palm, with some black stuff (asphalt?). All his clothes were stained with blood and wet.

He, or someone in his name, had bought a prescription for Ambien, a sleeping pill, on Wednesday. He had Ambien in his system when his body was tested. Is it normal to take a sleeping pill, jump out of bed at 2 a.m., get into your car in your bare feet (it's 45 degrees), drive down the street, pull over to a cut in the boulevard, and shoot yourself?

Baxter had millions of dollars in the bank, two kids, a wife, a yacht he loved to sail, and at the time, it was looking like he might appear to have been one of the good guys, having fought Skilling mightily on some Skilling's schemes. He was also raised Catholic, and his mother was very active in the Catholic church. Suicide is definitely frowned on in the Catholic religion. The suicide note is still posted on the web at the Houston Chronicle site: http://www.chron.com/content/news/photos/02/04/11/letter/popup2.htm

Is it normal for a grieving wife to go to great lengths to maintain secrecy of what is called a suicide note, hiring expensive lawyers, claiming it contains highly private and damaging writing, keeping it secret for months? (Maybe. But this suicide note was so generic anyone could have written it.) Is it normal for an adult, executive to write a suicide note IN PRINTING and sign his name IN PRINTING? (Dubious. Additionally, handwriting experts could not say for sure whether the note did or did not match Baxter's writing.)

He was a smart guy, highly competitive. He had a life insurance policy, high dollar. It would have paid out if he had waited one more day to commit suicide. Hmmmm.

Is it normal for the authorities not to protect the car, after it was pulled into a storage lot, from tampering? (They did not. After the car was impounded in a lot used by police, it was claimed no evidence could be gotten from it -- bear in mind, a back window had been broken by police to enter the car, and there is blood on the front seat -- because someone at the car lot had entered the car in order to inspect it because they wanted to rent it.)

Is it normal for the Harris County Coroner to make a ruling of suicide less than 24 hours after a body is brought in? (Dubious -- no ballistic reports, no tox reports, probably few to no discussions with family members or colleagues could have been completed by Saturday morning. The same unit's report on the tragic drowning of five children in the bathtub, ruling them a drowning -- Andrea Yates story -- took WEEKS. Those in the field say one assumes murder first, then rules it out, not the other way around.)

Is it normal to retrieve a body and not bag the hands to preserve any evidence? (No, it is not.)

Is it normal for a guy to buy four pairs of new eyeglasses the same week he is going to commit suicide?

Is it just a coincidence that within a few months after the Baxter death reports were issued, the Sheriff of Fort Bend County -- head guy over the Baxter investigation, retired, AND the Harris County Medical Examiner (younger than 50) retired.

Okay, you get the idea.

[sistersofmercy]

14. Wow, Ok find another writing sample if you could please?

That note does look very suspicious. There's is no exaggerated slanting which would imply a highly emotional state. There are some great books on handwriting analysis. I have all sorts of weird interest and that happens to be one of them.

[cryofan]

10. BOTH parties are probably corrupt

I saw some mighty funny things go on during the Clinton administration, too. That is why we need to exterminate the two-party monopoly. We need to get a little creative destruction working for us in government.


Look at the other western democracies: most of them have a half a dozen or more parties that exert real power.
If a party becomes corrupt and no longer represent the people, that party gets wiped out in the next election. It's called proportional representation, people, and MOST of the REAL democracies have it as their form of govt. The other western democracies are driving fuel-injected governments, and we are stuck with a Model T.


That is why we need to elect a real maverick for President in 2004, people!

Which candidate support proportional representation? People....Hello!!???

[Fleshdancer]

12. ummmm....

Just in case you are able to get this info out into mainstream, perhaps you should make the statement here on DU that you would never commit suicide. ever.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. What are the odds

that ANY of US have ever known or been associated with someone who:

1. committed suicide.

2. died in a small aircraft?

3. have been MURDERED?


Very slim and LOOK at ALL the people the BFEE knew, were associated with, accused them of some wrong doing or were going to write tell-all books who ended up DEAD. Come on! Those odds are slim to none for everyday citizens and they are coming out of the woodwork for the BFEE.

Frightening stuff.

[UTUSN]

15. Kick n/t

[KnuteThingrich]

16. Another name for the Bush Body Count

n/t

[grasswire]

17. you forgot Baxter

...and all those scientists. And Lori Klausutis.

[JNelson6563]

18. and then there's Wellstone

I'll always wonder about that. I marvel at the fact Kennedy was suppose to be on that plane too.

Then there's the 3000+ they let die on 9/11 to start the PNAC wars.

And those tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis cluttering up the path to the oil-field.

They've had to kill some in Afghanistan too. I doubt we'll ever know how many. The forgotten war you know.

Yes, Captain, you right. They will stop at nothing.

Julie

[CaptainMidnight]

20. oh and by the way...

the fact that she ended up dead only lends credence to her accusation, IMHO.

I know, strange logic, huh? But it was easier to ignore her as a loony if she'd remained alive. If they did indeed "take her out," then it only paints her as a potential threat to Bush.

Like the article in Pravda stated, Clinton's "problem" started out in a small rural town...

Or hey, she was crazy and just killed herself.

Okay

Captain Mik