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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:24 PM
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Clark stands up for Dean again.
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Earlier in the day, Clark had announced he would accept public financing for his primary campaign, but last night he said the issue wasn't one that should divide the party. Instead, they should be pointing their fingers at the Bush Administration, which is responsible for enforcing campaign finance laws, he said.

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http://www.cmonitor.com/stories/news/local2003/clark_111403_2003.shtml
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:28 PM
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1. You mean he didn't run an attack ad?
Wow, isn't that amazing? He's not the front-runner, but he focuses on his campaign and issues and makes decisions without attacking other candidates. What a concept! I like this guy :thumbsup:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:49 PM
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11. Correction,
There are no front runners....except who the mediawhores have annointed.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031114.asp
2. Is there a clear front-runner for the Democratic nomination nationally? =
No. Five Democratic candidates are now within seven points of one
another when Democrats who are registered to vote are asked whom they want to be their party's nominee next year:

Candidate Support for Democratic Party Nomination
Dean is technically the front-runner, with 17% of the vote of registered Democrats nationally, but he is followed very closely by Lieberman at 15%, Clark at 14%, Gephardt at 12%, and Kerry at 10%. Although the relative position of these candidates has tended to shift slightly from poll to poll, the overall picture now is no clearer than it was months ago. No one candidate has broken out from the pack as the clear choice of Democrats nationally.

The relative strength of the candidates is even clearer when we take into consideration whom Democrats name as their top two choices.
Lieberman, Clark, Dean, Gephardt, and Kerry all receive support from at least 20% of registered Democrats.

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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:47 PM
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27. Clark has been doing that consistently
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:42 PM
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35. Clark sees the writing on the wall............
DEAN/CLARK 2004.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:28 PM
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2. Once again
I'm impressed with him taking the high road.

I wish Kerry and Lieberman had the same class.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:29 PM
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4. I just saw the Lieberman ad on NECN
:puke: :puke: :puke:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:30 PM
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6. Makes me glad I dont have cable
though I would love to see a damn Bruins game :mad:
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:29 PM
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3. Damn right, my man!
See, this is the kind of thing that keeps one energized. I'm so glad he entered the campaign.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:30 PM
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5. He has class....
Dean's doing nothing wrong. He's simply following the law. If Clark had time to cultivate the resources, I'm sure he would decline public financing also. But, odds are, most of the rest of our candidates will try to turn it into a major issue.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:33 PM
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7. I Saw This, I Love How Clark Is Taking the High Road
It serves as a stark contrast to the rest of the field.

DTH
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:38 PM
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9. Unfortunately, the media caravan...
...doesn't travel on the high road.

I'm not suggesting that Clark should go negative. Not at all. As a supporter, I'm proud of how he's handling himself.

I just think that it's not a coincidence that the man not slinging the mud isn't getting the ink.

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:15 PM
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17. Clark is definitely a class act! nt
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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:36 PM
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8. Man I so wish Clark was for real...


Because if you only look at his actions and words since about May of 2003... he's fantastic. It is everything he said and did before that which ruines him for me as a candidate.

I think CLark is running for VP at this point. I think he's pulling out of the primaries in the northern states and focusing on the south. That won't win him the primary, but it will prove that he call draw votes in the south, making him a cherry VP pick.

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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:44 PM
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10. excuse me???
pulling out of the primaries in the north?

He pulled out of ONE state, Iowa, with its caucus system, that takes months, if not years, to get a foothold in.

Clark is leading in the polls in Wisconsin, and I'm sure running either first or second in plenty of other states.

Clark is not one who runs for VP - he runs to win. You're actually falling for the bullsh*t being spewed by the right wing. :puke:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:56 PM
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14. Whatever Clark is doing,
Edited on Fri Nov-14-03 03:00 PM by Frenchie4Clark
It's all class.

Senator Biden, McCain, Lugar, Powell and Bush all have taken some of his Iraq strategy and are using them or quoting them without attribution (no suprise from Senator Biden).

His Chinook Helicopter strategy....having no regular schedule to disable enemy advantage was adopted by Bush Admin

His NATO and putting together a "Reconstruction alliance" were quoted by both Lugar and Biden on News Hour on Monday.

His using someone other than Bremmer, a non American, also used by Biden

His recommendation to not wait for an Iraqi constitution prior to giving Iraqi more control used by Bush and Powell.

Having no Iraq strategy, something Clark has railed against Bush, has forced Bush to come up with a strategy (no matter how raggety)....hence lotsa activity and a "new iraq policy" emerging.

http://clark04.com/speeches/009/
http://clark04.com/issues/nationalsecurity/

I BELIEVE THAT CLARK IS EFFECTIVE AND MOST ARE LISTENING, EVEN IF NOT GIVING PROPER CREDIT.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:18 PM
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18. well, biden did say he leans toward clark (and kerry)
biden has not made any official endorsements but he has said he leans towards supporting clark (or kerry). so it's not really surprising.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:20 PM
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19. Clark getting a Biden endorsement over Kerry/Lieberman would be a coup.
Edited on Fri Nov-14-03 03:21 PM by Bleachers7
They have been in the senate together for a long time. I would take that endorsement even though I am not a fan of Bidens. A lot of people like him.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:50 PM
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12. Dean supporters bashing Clark in a Clark defending Dean thread
:puke:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:52 PM
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13. What do you expect?
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:23 PM
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21. It was a pretty light blow
certainly nothing to be bothered by. I understand that the sensitivity is at a peak here, but come on, I was about to remark about how TLM said something NICE about Clark.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:28 PM
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29. I was also surprised TLM had kind words...
TLM has been a consistent Clark critic and I preferred to see this remark as the first chink in his armor...
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:37 PM
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33. TLM qualified the remarks here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=710847&mesg_id=711325&page=

Don't worry, still the same ol' TLM.

Still thinks Clark is a "war criminal", still thinks he doesn't belong on the Democratic ticket.

Didn't offer up "kind words" at all.

All is right in the DU universe :)

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joshan361 Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:38 PM
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26. VP
well i think come Febuary Dean will be hoping to be considered Clarks VP.
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Bertrand Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:31 PM
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31. I dont know
If Clark were to lose, im sure he would probably want to wait out this election so he can run in 2008 with a greater network and more time.
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MIMStigator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:34 PM
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32. Man I so wish Dean didn't call for abolishing Medicare
Well, didn't he say it was the worst program EVER?
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KnuteThingrich Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:56 PM
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15. Hear, hear
The system is broken. Both Clark and Dean know it.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 02:59 PM
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16. Rock on General.
I do consider Clark to be a front-runner, in spite of any polls. Seems to me he and Dean lead the pack. I also believe that if Clark was in the race sooner his own fundraising would have made accepting funds a bad idea. As it is he is very likely to be on the ticket in the general and he knows for the Dems to win they have to raise and spend as much $$ as possible.

Clark is a smart man with some class to boot. And I confess I like that picture of him on horseback talking to some troops. ;-) Ok, and I thought he looked great on Rock the Vote.

Julie
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:31 PM
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22. Face it, Julie
You'd MUCH rather spend four (oops, make that eight) years watching Clark than Dean, anyway! You might as well just admit to it and change that avatar to a Clark one!

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:33 PM
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24. haha
I plan to be looking at them both for the next eight years.

:toast:

Julie
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:30 PM
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30. I hope you're right
That sounds like a delightful idea to me!

:toast:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:23 PM
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20. Honorable Man. n/t
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:32 PM
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23. Excellent work, General...
...he must really want that VP slot, eh? ;) Seriously, the General's all class.

Later.

RJS
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:36 PM
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25. I'm not sure he stood up for Dean, as much as he
stood up for the law, and against Bush*.

Dean can handle himself, as obviously, Clark can too.

Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean.

Either way, Shrub goes down faster than Ann Coulter in a Campus Conservatives meeting.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 03:47 PM
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28. This part of Clark's campaign has been impressive
He has stuck to the high road with amazing consistency.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-03 04:42 PM
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34. Ralph Waldo Emerson
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."

I so admire the General.
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