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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:31 AM
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US Sgt in Iraq: "You want me to hit her? I can slap her right now!"
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 07:46 AM by Paschall
The US sergeant's elite force was conducting the first foot patrols in this "hostile" Iraqi city since Saddam's fall. They had received a tip that there was a weapons cache in the home of a wealthy Iraqi businessman suspected of supporting "insurgents." Entering the house, they discovered that all the cabinets and closets had been emptied; the contents were neatly arranged in piles, ready for the search. Obviously the household had been expecting the US troops' visit.

The patrol confronted the wife outside, with the help of the only translator available, an American GI. (All the Iraqi translators in the city had been killed or fled.)

"We know you have weapons. Where are they?" the translator asked.
"We don't have any weapons," she answered, stroking her little great-niece's head.
The sergeant then asked the translator, "Do you want me to hit her? I can slap her right now!"

There was no slap, and the Americans returned to their quarters, an empty home they had requisitioned.

When the owner of the house unexpectedly showed up with his young son, the translator apologized and said the man and his family would have to find somewhere else to stay. The man protested and asked why the troops had removed all the furniture and appliances from the house and stacked them in the yard. The translator said they would protect his belongings if there was rain or a sandstorm. After the man insisted, the troops finally righted the upturned refrigerator and allowed him to take a space heater and VCR. Meanwhile, the troops relaxed on his living room furniture under the shade of the porch awning. Inside, other soldiers tried to get comfortable on their bedrolls in a room where they had just knocked out a portion of wall with sledge hammers.

"I lost my best friend, and three other buddies were injured in an explosion. One lost his leg. I don't care if the Iraqis die." one young soldier commented.
"If they don't stop attacking us, I say just level the place and turn it into a parking lot," commented another.

Earlier, during the patrol, the sergeant left two troops to guard an Iraqi family outside their home while others searched the house. Just as the sergeant stepped inside, the gray-bearded husband moved toward the door, asking the troops to be careful with his possessions. The sergeant whipped around with his machine gun raised, and screamed, "Get back! Get back! Soldier, if he tries that again, blow his head off! If you don't, I'll blow yours off! I don't want anyone in my back!" The young soldier stepped between the old man and the door.

These are scenes (recorded here from fallible memory) that aired on a news magazine on French television last week. The reporters, who had been in Iraq when "major combat" ended, said the atmosphere has dramatically worsened. None of the soldiers in this unit--with the exception of the sergeant--had any combat experience before arriving in Iraq. The unit's colonel is a recent officers' training graduate. As he gingerly poked the muzzle of his machine gun through the belongings of the Iraqis he said, "I try to imagine how I would feel if this were happening to me in America, if foreign troops were searching my home. So I try to treat the Iraqis with respect." Later he said, "I can't let my troops see it, but I really have my doubts about what we're doing here. I just don't know if it's right."
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:38 AM
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1. Isn't this the sort of thing the Nazis did
to people? What we are doing to the people of Iraq is beyond disgusting and is even more disqusting when you realize the W & Co. totally approve of this sort of behavior.

At least the guy at the end sounded like he had a working conscience. Too bad the others managed to redefine the concept of the Ugly American.

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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:50 AM
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6. Uh, no..
The Nazis would have killed the entire family and hung their bodies in front of their home as a warning.

I'm not defending the bad acts of the troops over there, but for christsakes they're not Nazis. :grr:

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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:42 AM
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2. Uhhh, Link to this?
Where are you getting this from?
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:48 AM
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5. No link
As I said this is from a French TV news magazine. I'd rather not give particulars here, but I'll PM them to you if you like.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:52 AM
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9. Well, how can we know it's true, if you can't provide a link to source???
Seriously.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:59 AM
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11. you can't, but it certainly rings true...
but even if there was a link you still couldn't be sure... unless you were there.

peace
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 08:07 AM
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14. I've just sent you a PM
I don't want to post this here, because I fear it could expose our troops to disciplinary action and reduce reporters access to our troops. Americans were not intended to see this French television report.

But take my word for it, this is what a saw--and only a small part of what I saw.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:44 AM
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3. The inevitable course of imperial conquest
"But it's not, it's not, it's not!" the war's apologists insist. Some of 'em Iraqis. But the proof is on the ground. That just is the objective situation: we are there as occupiers, conquerors. The "insurgents" are going to make sure we act like it, and it's easy enough to do. These young guys are acting the way they are because they don't want to die or be maimed in this incomprehensible foreign land. They want to come home to their wives and husbands and families in one piece, and they're goddamned if they're going to take any chances or cut any slack to anyone.

It didn't have to be this way. It could have been done differently--granting for the sake of argument that it needed to be done.

But the arrogant ignoramuses we have as overlords went and did it this way: unilaterally, with no plan for how to set the country back on its feet after we knocked it flat. And goddamit, they ought to pay for their horrific blundering.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:44 AM
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4. US soldiers=kids with guns
who have no clue as to what to do or say..Not a CLUE...My stepson told me his unit was told they would probably be deployed to Iraq, and they all started yelling WOOHOO we get to KILL people..
Its not good.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:51 AM
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8. i'm so glad somebody said that
from the get-go this adventure was so immature{npt the corporate facists it was designed to benefit} -- and remains that way. when will americans realize there chains are being pulled and they are dancing to the corporate tune?
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:53 AM
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10. They do not have the understanding that
a number of them will be coming back in body bags, some with missing arms and legs, and unless Brown and Root is there, they will be eating MRE for breakfast, lunch and dinner....

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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 08:15 AM
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16. Yes, young kids with guns trained for combat...
...and not for occupation or police work within a civilian population. These guys have been so screwed.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:50 AM
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7. And it will not get better. Men with guns seeing friend killed?
And it is going on on both sides. They kill each other even more.Look at what the Am and Brits did to the Germans long after they were beat. Bombed age old cities off the face of the earth. Did the Germanys do the same? Yes, as killing becomes out of control, both sides are the same.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:59 AM
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12. Iraqi's See Their Friends Die, they retaliate. US soldiers see friends die
they retaliate. Over and over and over.

AWOL started the murdering. He struck the first blow. From then on, all blood from this war is on HIS hands and no one else's.

Iraq did NOT attack the US on 9/11.
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Pocho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 08:07 AM
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13. THE SCORE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST:
THE SCORE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST: Before their war was won = 138, After their mission accomplished = 277 more, Total young land of the free and home of the brave heroes just following orders = 415 (not counting dying wounded.). Iraqi men, women, and children evil doers massacred = Nobody is saying. Those seeking vengeance for sake of family and invaded homeland honor = most. Years for Viet Cong to come together = several. Time for Iraqi resistance to build = damned near immediate. Have a nice day.:)
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 08:13 AM
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15. Locking.

No way to verify possible copyright violation.

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