Bush readies DRAFT, reduces time to activate SSS from 8 mos to 75 days!

[Dems Will Win]

This is the Selective Service plan for Fiscal Year 2004. Right now the draft system is dormant and would take 7 or 8 months to gear up. Bush is spending an additional $28 million next year to reduce that to 75 days by March 31, 2005! Means the DRAFT would be ready to go on June 15, 2005.

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html


Strategic Objective 1.2: Ensure a mobilization infrastructure of 56 State Headquarters,
442 Area Offices and 1,980 Local Boards are operational within 75 days of an authorized
return to conscription.

[hlthe2b]

1. Volunteer only armies are inherently unfair...

as they prey on the economically disadvantaged.

Parents of young men (and women) I hope this doesn't come to pass, because I hope we can end the need. But, I do think that there would have been SO much more discussion and people would have been far less easily manipulated, had there been mandatory conscription.

I just hope we can render this moot by getting rid of the BUSHIES and turning everything else around.

[Lefta Dissenter]

5. on the other hand

Clark, who might know a thing or two about it, feels that the military runs better when it's filled with people who WANT to be there. Considering he has served with both drafted and voluntary armies, he probably has a pretty good sense for what works (well, given a good leader and a good plan, what works).

[Dems Will Win]

9. Would that be Clark's slogan then?

Vote for Clark, He Wants to Bring the Draft Back?

Being for the draft is political suicide for a Dem or a Republican, despite the stretch to the political correctness angle.

The truth is, a volunteer army would have been sufficient except Bush wants to take over Central Asia and the Russkies and Chinese are going to fight him on that, so he needs the cannon fodder. By the way, this draft readiness plan was made and put into effect in 2001. PNAC at work, the United States of Earth coming up.

They are following a secret agenda and a secret timetable, the PNAC plan!

[democratreformed]

14. I beg your pardon

What part of "No, it's not time to bring the draft back." don't you understand?

How in the world did you come up with this?

[ShaneGR]

21. You make no sense, Clark is against the draft

You TOTALLY misread that reply above. COMPLETELY.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. The army is fighting this

Advantages of the draft

Democratizes the country (theoretically, you can if the rich also
serve... if you think the Rangel bill will survive I have a bridge
to sell you)

Makes politics relevant to many, including that generation that
right now cares only for partying and doing it hard

Disadvantages

Drug use will go up

Discipline problems from people who do not want to be there

Cruelty against recruits will go up

Decrease in efficiency

Training cost, versus getting your money's worth... two year
draftee leaves, it cost over a million dollars to train him,
you are not getting your money out of it

Pay will go down for those in the service... after all they are
draftees you know, cheap labor conservs get their dream... never
mind that pay is already low

Quality of life issues go out the window

And I could go on

That is why Clark does not want a draftee army.

[Kinkistyle]

15. Draft=slavery

I've said it before, I'll said it again: the Draft = Slavery to the State. When you become a soldier you essentially become a slave to the country. You do what the country tells you, you go where the country tells you. You will kill for the country, you will die for the country, or you will go to jail. This is slavery. When its a volunteer army, its ok, because people choose to make this sacrifice. The draft takes that choice away from you.

[proud patriot]

2. Bush in 04 = The Draft n/t

[kalian]

3. I'm wondering....

if the tools are there...will a dem use them...? :shrug:

[bluestateguy]

4. We'll have a whole new generation of Chickenhawk material

Here they'll come:

"Oh, oh! I can't go, I have a pimple on my ass"
"Oh, oh! I can't go, I'm too fat"
"Oh, oh! I can't go, Daddy gave $2,000 to the Bush campaign"

[MrSoundAndVision]

6. That

is crazy..I wonder what 2005 will be like then is Bush is around...Iran, Syria, what's next, dismantling the UN, Cuba, N. Korea via nukes, Pakistan, Argentina, Nigeria, jeeze we could just go ahead and include any nation with resources, oh wait. Canada, that's it, Canada should be first, they hate our (brand of) freedom.

[retyred]

7. bush won't go there

unless he gets elected, even he isn't dumb enough to bring up the draft before then, hell he's pushing now to get out of Iraq ASAP in hopes of saving his ass for next year.



Retyred In Fla
So I Read This Book

[MattNC]

8. nothing wrong

with wanting to make the SS more efficient

still no chance of the draft coming back though

[Dems Will Win]

10. One more big attack and Bush could get both re-elected and start draft

no problem. Then he carries out the PNAC plan to dominate the world oil supply in Central Asia and the ME.

He would need 2-3 million under arms if Russia and China don't fight him to do this and hold Iraq and Iran and more if they do.

And why do they spend the money to go right up to the point where they are ready to draw the names and give the medical after 30 years of dormancy. They are getting ready to pull the trigger but will of course wait until the day after the assumed re-election to announce it.

[calimary]

11. What would he do - put them all in helicopters? Great.

Another depressing round of news on another depressing bush-is-still-in-control day.

WHEN WILL THIS END???????????????????

[RC]

13. When will it end?

When bu$h and his merry band of criminals are in a federal lockup.

[MattNC]

16. or maybe

you're just too conspiracy-minded

there's no reason at all to believe we're going to war again anytime soon, and if we were, i don't see the need for a draft. manpower isn't the issue.

and concerning the draft, let's not forget Congress still has re-election to face. i think some here on this board don't realize the political suicide a draft would encompass.

[Dems Will Win]

18. Here's where you're wrong

You said

there's no reason at all to believe we're going to war again anytime soon, and if we were, i don't see the need for a draft. manpower isn't the issue.

By 2005, with half the National Guard not re-enlisting and a little less in the army, the volunteer army will no longer be able to fight the war against Terra. There will be nor war in 2004, but the draft will be ready for the first lottery on June 15, 2005 and can "deliver" several hundred thousand 20 year-olds in 6 months. This will enable Dick Cheney to keep Iraq, take Syria and then Iran. After several hundred thousand more are drafted they will start chipping away at the states of Central Asia, as per the PNAC plan of 1992, written by Rumsfeld, Cheney and Perl.



and concerning the draft, let's not forget Congress still has re-election to face. i think some here on this board don't realize the political suicide a draft would encompass.



AFTER the 2004 election, the Repuke Congress would quietly authorize the President to activate the draft when he felt fit. This he will do on March 31, 2005, the day the system has been mandated to be ready for full use. They are then able to draw the first name on June 15, 2005.

In their mind, they have no choice and they have increased the SSS budget $28 million in 2004 to activate the draft. Read the link above again--all of it.

[dragonlady]

17. Depressing thought

I think that's the date my son graduates from high school.

[SoCalDem]

19. Better get on this RIGHT NOW, people....

We do not have the access to a free media now.. At least in the 60's, news media was NOT consolidated and with the fairness doctrine in effect, whenever a talking head for the conservative side came on, there was an equal amount of time given to the other side..

They even announced the opposing view ..

Newspaper reporters were not terribly well paid back then and most cities of any size had at least 2 or 3 competing papers.. (My home town of about 25,000 then, had a morning and an afternoon paper)

Reporters were very into investigating...and trying to out do each other..

Now, they just sit at desks and hit F5 to see what the AP or Reuters is telling them..


This time around, the draft will be on us like a ton of bricks and we all know what an effect the 1st amendment zones have on protests..

A million people could show up, and the WH memos would tell the press to report that a few hundred showed up.. There would not even be pictures, so who's to know??

We have all been had.... Fasten your seatbelts.. Enjoy the ride..:(

[DemBones DemBones]

20. Males of draft age: read this and stay informed.

Don't bet your life that the whole idea will just disappear.

[AP]

22. He's trying to encourage anti-war protests so he can replay 72

Trying to create anxiety which he will relieve late next summer.