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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:24 PM Original message |
Why IS health insurance so expensive? |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. I thought it was because |
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BiggJawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. And they like those drug company-sponsored "Training Trips"... |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. One word |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Deleted message |
The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. How then do you explain my point about corporate inefficiency? |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
53. this is only a guess... |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. Let me put it another way. |
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dpibel (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Help me out here |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:18 AM Response to Reply #67 |
73. I'll try |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Charting also is necessary for |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. Price manipulation and cheaters |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:02 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I'm confused. Did you mean to reply to me? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Just the opposite. |
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RobertSeattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I'd love to see a comparison with Vet Care |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. That's just silly |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. Non-profit isn't a solution by itself |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 05:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. I agree that profit is a problem |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. States need to have more power |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. The Florida AG |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Because demand is inelastic, and the supply is finite |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. yeah, but... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Nice post and all of it's true. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. I would argue against your number one reason a bit and consider it |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Interesting point, but |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:02 PM Original message |
As far as charging for tests that WERE not provided |
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pnb (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. A few reasons |
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CoolerKing (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. another reason: |
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NewGuy (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
15. 3rd party payer |
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SeattleDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:17 PM Original message |
explains why healthcare costs so much |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Delivering health care through capitalism creates inherent contradiction. |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. That's an excellent point. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. AP, that is an EXCELLENT counter-argument to... |
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NewGuy (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
62. The object is to consume what is needed |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. And once they've cured the disease? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. Because they are not regulated |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Not regulated? |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 03:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. And it's not being rationed now? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Hell, they even ration it to those who ARE insured. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Yet going to a nationalized |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. If anything gets rationed |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Great |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Do you think Mrs. Schiavo would be alive today |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. First thing I thought of too Camero |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Oh? And you know this how? |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. How do I know? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:15 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Um, no....not "period"....overly general statement. |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Find for me a single country |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 07:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
70. And the U.S. rations care by |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. there's no "limit" on the supply of health care |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. There is not a limit? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Yep |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I found that out years ago |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. You didnt say |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:13 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. *yawn* Okay, I'll throw you a rhetorical bone. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. A sure sign that it's RW talking points |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. If it is an unquestionable fact then please do PROVE IT |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. here ya go |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. The article still creates the false impression that they ration /WE DON'T |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. That article is from a RW rag |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Enforcement of that regulation comes down to the whim |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. You left out: |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Florida just passed malpractice reform |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Thats a CUT!!! |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. No it's not, it's newsspeak |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. That's not a cut, moran |
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Norcom (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I was being sarcastic |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. It's a cut |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. Don't blame the lawyers. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 06:40 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. We have too many lawsuits though I believe |
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The White Rose (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 07:36 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. It's simply too easy, and inaccurate to blame lawyers |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:12 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. At one time, every single OBGYN in the entire state of FL |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:21 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Friend who's a OBGYN |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
55. insurance |
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camero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. It used to be illegal |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. drugs |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 04:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Yes, but... |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-18-03 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
71. If you don't work for a very large corporation, health care is sky-high. |
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apsuman (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:22 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. not really $48 |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. I have to buy my own health insurance |
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cryofan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
76. The Europeans are laughing at us!! |
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tarheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-19-03 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
80. Jonathon Turley at George Washington University |
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