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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:09 PM
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Dean supporters: Sell me in one sentence.
Seriously. Pretend I'm an undecided primary state voter. You've got me right before I go vote, and there's time for one sentence.

In PR parlance, what's the sizzle? :shrug:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:11 PM
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1. Easy
http://www.deanforamerica.com/

Go home and read it. Then read every other candidates site too.

then come Back when you are an informed voter.

and make up your own mind.

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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:14 PM
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6. Rather missing the point....
...I hope you aren't working NH!
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:32 PM
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52. No, just getting tired of having to do the work
for those who have OBVIOUS agendas.

There has been, oh, 1000 posts in GD about Dean in the past 6 months, and you didn't bother reading them?

and no, I am not working NH...

So you want one sentence?

Because he'll kick bush* ass back to Crawford...
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:45 PM
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67. Dean cut VT budget so hard, he got BIG $ from the Rich...
so now he is "electable"

Don't think he cut the Vermont budget to shreds? Go take a look on google...

That is what attracted the Big Bucks Backers. They are afraid of a president who will lead us a european-style govt (see Kucinich or sharpton), and so they want to make sure the Dem candidate is one of their own--a rich man from a blueblood background, just like Bush.
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imhotep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:12 PM
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2. how about
the only Dem with executive experience.
Even though DK is my first choice.
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american_punk Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:13 PM
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3. here's mine
he's experienced, he know what he's talking about, and dammit! people like him
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:13 PM
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4. People-powered Howard. You have the power!
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:13 PM
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5. "A serious chance to beat Bush in '04"
That's enough for me ... to vote for ANY Dem. nominee.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:14 PM
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7. how's this?
from someone who is committed to supporting ANYone other than Bush (short of Satan, although I'm not sure they are two different people):

Even though I don't agree with every one of his positions, Dean is the ONLY candidate who never backs down, who isn't afraid to take it to Bush, who never wavers when given a chance to take a swing at him, who seems to have sensed and responded to the anger about Bush and his mismanagement of the country.


By the way, this isn't meant to bash the other candidates or short-change them -- I just don't see that fire in passion in the others the way I see it in Dean, and I think it's essential in beating Bush. The days of being a gentleman are over -- we need a street fighter to go against these thugs.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:16 PM
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9. What if Bush backs down and Bill Frist is running for President next Nov?
Come up with an answer that doesn't use the workd "Bush."
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:19 PM
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37. I sincerely doubt it....
:eyes:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:28 PM
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64. LBJ backed out when it was obvious he wouldn't win, and if RFK
hadn't been shot, it would have worked.

The animosity was so persoanlized, with LBJ, that he could drop out without hurting the other Democtrats.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:34 PM
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53. "What if Bush backs down"
What if a large meteor destroys the earth before Next Nov?

Come up with an answer that doesn't slam Dean...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:29 PM
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66. If Dean's attacks on Bush work, Bush will back out.
They've already laid out an exit strategy ... he doesn't like DC and he wants to be the baseball commissioner.

Where does that leave Dean?
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:28 PM
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18. power of the media
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 03:35 PM by ThirdWheelLegend
" Dean is the ONLY candidate who never backs down, who isn't afraid to take it to Bush,"

If you believe this to be true then the media is doing its job..

Dennis Kucinich is more vocal, just gets less Time magazine covers.

February 2002

http://www.kucinich.us/speeches/speech1.htm

snip
"Because we did not authorize the invasion of Iraq.
We did not authorize the invasion of Iran.
We did not authorize the invasion of North Korea.
We did not authorize the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan.
We did not authorize permanent detainees in Guantanamo Bay.
We did not authorize the withdrawal from the Geneva Convention.
We did not authorize military tribunals suspending due process and habeas corpus.
We did not authorize assassination squads.
We did not authorize the resurrection of COINTELPRO.
We did not authorize the repeal of the Bill of Rights.
We did not authorize the revocation of the Constitution.
We did not authorize national identity cards.
We did not authorize the eye of Big Brother to peer from cameras throughout our cities.
We did not authorize an eye for an eye.
Nor did we ask that the blood of innocent people, who perished on September 11, be avenged with the blood of innocent villagers in Afghanistan."

snip>>

I seem to recall this is over 1 YEAR before the Iraq invasion.


and last month:

http://kucinich.us/announce-news.htm

snip
"This war threatens our civil liberties, our civil freedoms, and our economic freedoms. The rising budget deficit, at national and state levels, will continue to mount with the continued occupation. Meanwhile, absolutely no attention is being paid to a rising trade deficit which is now approaching 450 billion dollars."
snip

Of the candidates he always has been the strongest voice of opposition and continues to still be that voice. Media coverage...Dean has over 10 times as much.


TWL
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:16 PM
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8. Nice...That's something good to think about and consider.
Most Americans are undecided and sadly uninformed. When I think about it people are workin 3 times as hard for less money. We don't have time to get informed.

Nice Exercise
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:17 PM
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10. "Experienced, intelligent, resolute, angry and in-touch with America"!
That's who Howard Dean is! :hi:
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:20 PM
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11. My Unrefined Pitch
Dean has a vision and a practical plan on how to achieve it but does not adhere to strict ideology which means nothing is written in stone with him, he will constantly question and evaluate everything he does and everything that is happening to best adapt.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:23 PM
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12. "adapt"
accommodate, adjust, conform, fit, quadrate, reconcile, square, suit, tailor, tailor-make http://m-w.com
Of course others might say "waffle".
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:16 PM
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35. Adaptation is the key to survival
Plans are crutches and are only as good as the available data. As more data becomes available, only the person who can adapt to the new information will succeed.

To me, waffling is going back and forth between two positions and cannot be readily classified as fine tuning of a position (which is what I believe Kerry is about... that fine-tuning, walking thin but clear lines).


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:48 PM
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41. Ding, ding, ding! IMO, you win!
I'm "copying" that sentence! :toast:
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:24 PM
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13. Dean is not a regular politician
he's a man of integrity that speaks his mind. And because he's honest and angry he can take Bush.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:24 PM
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14. I love the answers so far.
If we're allowed a P.S. "George W. Bush doesn't own that flag -- Howard Dean."
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:25 PM
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15. Howard Dean
Vote for Howard Dean. Because ill-fitting shirts are coming back in style. :D
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:28 PM
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51. Jeeze! Whadda you talkin' about?
All I see when I look at Dean is energy personified , sensible, and willing to fight the corrupt government we now have.

I think that is what The Unions have seen, too! http://www.msnbc.com/news/994165.asp

<snip> " If Dick Gephardt is your father’s Oldsmobile, Howard Dean is a sporty Miata, turning heads even as it risks swerving into the Bushes. Gephardt has the older blue-collar unions; Dean the newer white-collar ones. Gephardt, ironically, has the more innovative labor proposals—including a “global minimum wage” (varying by country)—and he could better tell his old friends hard truths as president. But Dean’s outsider status appeals to unions that felt taken for granted in the Clinton era. And Dean offers the same organizational energy that fuels the SEIU. “We’re going to make our union shop stewards into precinct captains,” says Stern, who was told months ago by Dean that “you have the power to make me president.” <snip>
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:27 PM
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16. Howard Dean is a candidate about Hope --
he's angry at the corruption produced by both Parties, has the courage to change it, and a plan to succeed in our quest to take our country back from the robber barons plundering our Treasury.

How's that in a nutshell?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:27 PM
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17. a couple of sentences?.....
as to why Dean should not get the nomination? Is that allowed?

Dean has no foreign policy experience whatsoever.
Dean wants to raise taxes on the middle class.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. Play nice, this is a Dean thread....Please don't attack other
candidates if you are a Clark Supporter. The General needs supporters to compliment his image.
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clarknyc Donating Member (393 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:46 PM
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24. Thanks, xultar
I appreciate the civiltiy and maturity of your response.

You're right, of course. All of our preferred candidates need their supporters to compliment their images and efforts. We're all in this together, after all.

Anyone But Bush.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:46 PM
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #40
46. Excuses ..excuses! Are just that.
The starter of this thread specifically asked for "Dean Supporters to sell Dean in one sentence". Anything other than that is "hijacking the thread"!
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #40
56. You got it!
:evilgrin:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:52 PM
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43. You are so kind and sensible! Thank you!
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:20 PM
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61. So you agreed with the bush* tax cuts?
I can't believe you would use such an obviously false argument. Way to be a Democrat.

As for a single sentence to support Dean, I'll do better and provide a single word: PASSION!

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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:29 PM
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19. Vote Dean because...
... I'm sure you want to be on the winning team.

Just think how silly you'll look trying to peal that non-Dean bumper sticker off your car, and how proud you'll be to have aa authentic vintage Dean sticker on your car in 2008 when he's running for his second term.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. He can and will defeat George Bush.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:40 PM
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22. OK Here's one from a Clarkie...A good one
If you're angry about how things are and you want a change for America, Vote Dean.
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DianeK Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:43 PM
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23. the most important reason
that I support Dr.Dean so fervently is because he was the first brave soul to take a strong stand against the policies of George W. Bush at the political level.

I admit that I was also afraid to speak out. I believed that I was one of a very small minority who were distressed at the direction that our President was taking. When Dr.Dean spoke out on these issues and was supported by so many people, I was thrilled to realize that I was not in the minority.

Also, he left the state of Vermont with a 10.4 million dollar surplus at a time when many states are facing bankruptcy.


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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #23
63. ditto
eom
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:48 PM
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25. Dean: Pissed off and Pragmatic!
Not to mention he has an excellent work ethic. He's dedicated, bold, outspoken, brave, sensible, and fair. He'll make an excellent President! :toast:

PS. His record on childrens issues in Vermont needs more mention as it is overlooked often.

See below:

Vermont ... adopted a system of sharing educational dollars across the state, so schools in poor communities have the same financial backing as those in wealthy communities.

And regarding Health care for kids:

96 percent of all children under 18 are covered. Dean believes the United States needs a health care system which results in coverage for every American.

http://fundforahealthyamerica.com/VermontRecord.asp



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TLM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:51 PM
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26. Ok here it goes...

Vote for Dean because he not only has great ideas to achieve progress on democratic goals like healthcare, employment, and education... but he also has the experience of having made these plans work successfully in VT.




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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:57 PM
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31. Excellent, TLM
add also the boldness to take a stand on issues(approval of gay unions, anti-war) no matter how unpopular at the time. Who is doing his best to stop the DLC and it's repuke-lite "leaders" from dragging our party any further right, who has instilled a sense of pride in his democratic supporters that's long been missing, who CAN and WILL beat shrub in '04.
:dem:
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skyzics Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:04 PM
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27. I am warming up to Dean..
1. Party establishment and 'leaders' in both major big-business parties (Dems and Repugs) do not like him.

2. The media pundits, as well as major Dems and GOPers all sound scared: First they all compare him to McGovern; now they compare him to Goldwater. (I think they doth protest too much.)

3. He appears to have the ability to tap into disenfranchised voters (disgusted non-voters) as well as some elements of the 'swing vote' (working-class redneck voters), recognizing perhaps that the latter category is less important, the establishment concensus notwithstanding.

4. He looked the best in Des Moines the other night of the lot.

5. He did not vote for the war resolution or the patriot act.

6. In sum: His own man. Does not go with the political concensus - at least yet.

I am warming up to him!





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skyzics Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Add:
Did not feel compelled to kiss Hillary in Des Moines the other night. (Edwards kissed her her so much I thought he might be trying to steal her away from Bill!)
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:43 PM
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30. Or was Hillary kissing Edwards? ; )
nt
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:36 PM
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29. Dean gave me hope
The first time I heard Dean speak, I finally felt hope that we could finally turn this country around because here was a guy who pulled no punches, spoke directly without flounciness, and gave me a view of America that would be renewed without Bush in the picture.
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skyzics Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:57 PM
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32. Good point on your blog..
About how he came out on the stage in Des Moines. I had not noticed that. A moving photo of him coming out onto the stage from among his supporters. I will be looking for more symbolism like that.

I was also moved by his interaction with Carole Mosley Braun. They both looked very spontaneous and very cool - and like they were having the best time.

The light bulb finally went on watching that event.





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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:11 PM
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33. That feisty little bastard is saying what needs to be said!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #33
59. There you go!!!
:toast:
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stinkeefresh Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:16 PM
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34. because every other campaign in history
tells you how it is, what to think, what you need. Howard Dean's campaign is about empowering YOU to tell him what's up.

(Can you tell I'm an even bigger fan of the campaign than of the man?)
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. welcome to DU!!!
:hi:
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:55 PM
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45. I fully agree
I too am a bigger fan of the campaign than the man. That is what makes Dean great. It isn't about him. Yeah, yeah, I know that logic isn't sound, but sometimes it is more about feelings than logic.
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:21 PM
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38. One sentence + 3 supporting sentences...
When it comes to having the vision to develop and implement a strategy to put America back on track domestically and globally, Howard Dean GETS IT.

He recognizes the need to address the critical domestic issues within our nation and has the experience to get the job done. He recognizes the fact that our nation has lost global credibility and he has committed to enact foreign policy to restore global faith. He understands the need to distinguish between critical federal issues and ideological issues which need to be left up to the states.

This is why I'm voting for him.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:58 PM
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47. I like that. Dean 'gets it'. That sums it up perfectly
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
60. Yes, he 'gets it' Now thares' a slogan...
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 07:03 PM by mzmolly
"Howard Dean....HE GETS IT!"
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:40 PM
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39. Instead of a line a short rhyme
Why Dean?
Because he is angry not mean
Why president?
Just look at the present resident.

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:51 PM
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42. Dean, and only Dean, has had the courage to call Bush*'s bluff on the war.
Go Dean!
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AmericanDem Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:54 PM
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44. DONT DO IT!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:01 PM
Original message
Don't do what? Check out the Dean Websites?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:01 PM
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48. this got the attention of many of my friends...
a socially liberal, fiscally conservative doctor with over a decade of experience as a governor.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:01 PM
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49. Screw your one sentence
Understanding doesn't come in one sentence.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:10 PM
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50. Dean has the fortitude, intelligence, and vision to lead
our Country out of the abyss that bush has thrown us into.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:35 PM
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54. Dean is our best chance to beat Bush
The only sentence that sells...

Others have their draw, but no one has campaigned like Dean. No one has built a coalition like Dean. Dean is our best bet to fend off the Green challenge and unseat Bush.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:37 PM
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55. Read this months Vanity Fair
the lead editorial and Deans essay.
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:48 PM
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57. dean knows kung fu
... oh well, it was worth a try
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 06:56 PM
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58. Who do you take a sick nation to, but a Doctor?
yoink.


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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 07:34 PM
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62. It may not happen but...
Dean may well give Bush the finger on national TV during the debates.

That sells it for me. :evilgrin:

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 08:28 PM
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