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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:20 PM
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The Queen hates George Bush.
Discuss.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:21 PM
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1. She really hated Thatcher, y'know. Doesn't like competition.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:22 PM
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2. Hating Thatcher is understandable
so is hating Bush. Though, once the invitation is extended it's awfully hard to rescind.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:23 PM
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3. The PM sends the invites in the Queen's name.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 03:23 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
She has nothing to do with it. I almost pity her.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:33 PM
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6. Right
The Queen invites whoever the PM tells her to, she is just a pawn in this (har har).
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:34 PM
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10. As far as I know, that's the protocol. She's a figurehead
I don't know why we still bother with her
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:12 PM
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27. Head of State
Because what would she be replaced with? It would be easier for the Candians trhan for the Brits of course but the problem is the same. Can we trust the politicians to come up with a solution that is not worse than the current situation? HMQ is just a figure head but the in the British system all authority derives from the Monarch and is carried out in her name. So she is essentially a harmless relic of history.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:32 PM
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5. if she hated Thatcher.....what must the level of contempt be for bush?
I can hear her muttering: insufferable fool!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:32 PM
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4. The funny thing is that the Queen has subletly and tact....
...she can probably snub and insult the hell out of Bush with him being the only person to not realize that she is insulting him.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:34 PM
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7. Maybe she's afraid Wills or Harry will get mixed up with those Bush girls?
I personally could care less about the Queen. She's an overpaid diplomat who gets to live in luxury without really having to earn it. The first Elizabeth, now she was cool. She freed her country from tyrannical popes and made Britain a world power.
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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:48 PM
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21. Oh yes, Elizabeth I ....
... massive repression and persecution of Catholics. Actually it was her father, Henry VIII, that broke away from the See of Rome.

http://www.britannia.com/history/gunpowder1.html

Fearful of a now encroaching Catholic Europe, Elizabeth embarked upon a systematic course of repression and persecution of Catholics within her own country, in an attempt to ensure that there was no discontented populace which could assist a foreign invasion, or which could be seen as a beacon if a foreign invasion occurred. When the Spanish Armada was defeated in 1588, Elizabeth had all but extinguished the hopes for an end to persecution of those Catholics in England who saw Spain as their great ally. The previous year she had had her rival, the deposed and imprisoned Mary Queen of Scots, executed in order to prevent underground Catholic cells rallying to Mary’s cause and attempting to depose Elizabeth.

And the Catholics in Ireland fare no better, especially for the Penal Times that came much later.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:34 PM
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8. not according to this!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:37 PM
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13. Good God! That is genius. Sheer fucking genius!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:43 PM
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19. LMAO!!
Now that is funny! But day-um! The idea of the queen and * getting it on is nausiating to say the least.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:52 PM
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22. Conan O'Brien did something like this on his show last night
And this is what he displayed as the result of such a union:

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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:34 PM
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9. Did any of you wonder if * started to sing
the words to "My country tis of thee" when they were playing "God save the queen"?
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:37 PM
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12. Bwahahahahahaha....
Man, I would NOT take that bet! Silly arsehole was probably wondering what all those other people were singing! And thinking "Why can't they use their own melody instead of stealing ours????"

Good one, nannygoat!

:yourock:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:37 PM
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11. She's in good company.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 03:38 PM by in_cog_ni_to
She joins millions and millions of people who hate that bastard. In the pic that was posted of her Majesty and the chimp, it was quite obvious she was NOT a happy camper! Who can blame her? I hate him too. I would rather cut off an arm than spend 3 days with that moron.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:39 PM
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14. I read on one of the previous articles posted here that there is....
major strife between Buckingham Palace and #10 Downing Street on this one. The Queen will keep a "stiff upper lip" while Bush is there but there will be hell to pay once he is gone. The Queen is NOT amused!
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:40 PM
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15. Prince Phillip is really earning his keep today
Phillip HATES George. Phillip has a rather volcanic personality, and it is taking ever fibre of his strength to maintain his composure in His Chimperial Highnesses' presence.

He deeply resents the Gestapo security surrounding smirky, and his imperialist pretentions.

I can't wait to hear the "behind the scenes" stories that are going to come out of this visit.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:54 PM
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23. Bush makes Phillip look reasonable. I never thought I'd write that!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:40 PM
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16. she's certainly had lot of experience meeting world leaders ...
Heck, even back as far as Bush's idol, Sir Winston Churchill! By now she probably can suss out who's a fake ... and my guess is that she remembers Bush coming up to her, drunk, at that state dinner during his dad's administration.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:04 PM
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33. There have been a lot of great leaders during her reign
Her father George VI died in '52, when Truman was President and Churchill was PM.

Since that time, the United States has had the following Presidents:
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush 41
Clinton
Bush 43

The United Kingdom has had the following Prime Ministers:
Churchill
Eden
MacMillan
Douglas-Home
Wilson
Heath
Callaghan
Thatcher
Major
Blair

Additionally, such leaders as Nehru (India), Adenauer and Brandt (Germany), de Gaulle (France), Trudeau (Canada), Khrushchev and Gorbachev (USSR), and Castro (Cuba) have served during her reign.

Is it any wonder that Dubya fails to impress her?

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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:40 PM
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17. Not in defense of Bush* but that stuffy chick probably hates everybody.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:44 PM
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20. I understand she likes Bill Clinton.
nt
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:56 PM
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24. Ironically, I'm one of the most strident anti-monarchists around
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 04:02 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
but I rather like the royals. I just don't want to have to pay for them or bow to them. The Queen's a liberal I believe, as is Charlie.
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:40 PM
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29. the Windsors are supposedly liberals
in terms of their politics believe it or not. They are supposedly, dating back to Queen Victoria, also friendly to, and fond of people of color. The queen's hatred of Maggie Thatcher was based on Maggie's insufferable Tory poloitics. The only conservative of the bunch was the late Quenn Mother who despite her grandmotherly demeanor was quite a right wing bigot.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:52 PM
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31. and, even more bizarrely, a Scottish Nationalist.
big fan of apartheid too.
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mndemocrat_29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:13 PM
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28. Didn't she like Gerald Ford?
n/t
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:41 PM
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18. The Queen knew Winston Churchill...I doubt Bush will impress her.
This isn't her first time at the rodeo, so to speak.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:49 PM
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30. Heck, she knew Ringo Starr
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 04:50 PM by elperromagico
and even he was better than Bush by tenfold.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 03:58 PM
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25. There was a story
that the Queen asked that she not be seated at the same table with Junior at a state dinner in DC when old Bush was president.
The Queen found Jr. appalling and had the seating arrangements changed so she would not have to sit near Shrub.
Wish I had a link....does anyone else remember this?
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:00 PM
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26. That answers a question
I was wondering why she looked like she needed a laxative when CNN showed her with Bush this morning.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:53 PM
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32. Almost anyone in a country with a free press hates Bush
By "free," I mean "not Bush's lapdog."

I think if we had a free press here, Bush's approval ratings would even make Nixon feel sorry for him.
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