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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:23 PM
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"People get the government they deserve"
I heard this on NPR last night... I thought it was great so I thought I'd share. :)

There apparently was a bit of an argument between listeners. An older listener had called to complain about how the younger generation are 'slackers'. According to a younger listener, that isn't fair, because according to her, the younger generation works longer hours, has less buying power, and is less secure in their retirement.

A gentleman then responsed to her that, "if you're fed up with working too many hours, then consider not buying a house three times your annual income, and buy a house that's double your annual income, like your grandpa did."

But the greatest part was where he said this:

"If you're fed up with the falling buying power of the dollar or your retirement being insecure, then stop getting your news from TV, register, and vote -- people get the government they deserve."

Whoever you are, sir: :yourock:
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:25 PM
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1. A substantial number of them "old" folks voted for Bush
stupidity is not defined by age, although perhaps apathy is.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:27 PM
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2. If you can find a $30,000 house, let me know.
Preferably in the present, since my time machine's on the fritz.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:33 PM
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3. Heh well I'm not saying the guy was a genius.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 04:33 PM by redqueen
His comment about housing shoed he clearly didn't 'get' how bad the crisis in affordable housing really is...

But his advice on how to deal with these situations was spot on!
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:39 PM
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5. Here's a house for $29,900:
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 05:01 PM by happyslug
Here’s a house for $29,900:
http://www.goodnewsrealty.com/radebach.htm

In Beautiful Commodore, Pa.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:43 PM
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6. If that is to expensive for you here is some more:
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 04:48 PM by happyslug
This one is selling for $5,900 (Yes that is Five Thousand and Nine hundred Dollars). Johnstown has a lot of housing, just no jobs to go with them.

http://www.johnstownpahomes.com/



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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:54 PM
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10. Johnstown!
Thats where my grandparents are from.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:59 PM
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14. Johnstown, where a lot of people are from:
Johnstown:
The city's population reached 70,000 by 1920 and remained stable between 60,000 and 70,000 from 1920 to 1950. Since 1950, the population has steadily decreased by almost 800 people per year to the current total of 23,906 in 2000.

http://www.route56westend.com/03_description.html#historical


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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:01 PM
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15. Yes I know
Good town, I wish I could go back sometime. It has gotten smaller true.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:05 PM
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16. Many just moved to the Suburbs, but many just left.
Edited on Wed Nov-19-03 05:05 PM by happyslug
About 3-4 years ago it was reported by the local newspaper that the property is Richland Township (A suburb of Johnstown off New 219, a limited access Highway connecting US22 with the Pa Turnpike) had higher value than the property located in the City of Johnstown itself.

Think about it, just ONE suburb is worth more than the city it is a suburb of. How far Johnstown has fallen.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:08 PM
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17. My grandparents lived there during the depression
Its amazing really. My grandparents came down here to VA in the early 50's after my grandpa got out of the Army and after they married, he didnt wanna work in the mines or steel mills, he became a bricklayer. It has declined to the jobs lost in those sectors obviously but what a great town though, I loved going there as a little kid.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 05:40 PM
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18. But this thread was to Dr Weird
I found him his $30,000 "dream home" and now he does not repond, maybe is likes the $5,900 one better?
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:38 PM
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4. It is 100% true...
We have exactly what we deserve...
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:47 PM
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7. Nobody Deserves to be Robbed by the BFEE!!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:55 PM
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11. I think the part about not getting your news from TV
was supposed to address that. :)
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:47 PM
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8. That's fine, but the majority of voters "deserved" Gore
We "got" Bush.

Somebody up there doesn't like us.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:52 PM
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9. Mandatory voting is the answer
That'll get them off their duff and to the polls.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:58 PM
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12. "people get the government they deserve."
Except in the US where the guy with fewer votes wins.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-19-03 04:58 PM
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13. I sort of think so. Manything they will have to re-fight for as they...
think it is just here for good. Look at Roe vs Wade.Look at what Uniona did for the working man and see what is now going on and who believes in joining a union?It is waves and we are in the troth and will have to work our way out. Laissie faire capital did not work before and will not now but every one has to re-learn.
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